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grungethemovie 07-22-2014 07:56 PM

Kanji all around the turtles
 
So, paying attention to the new footage released for the movie, I realized the turtles got a bunch of kanji written all over, either on their bandanas or Raphael´s scar tattoo
I'm trying to figure them out, so, if anyone has already or if someone finds some good images that we could identify them, I couldn't find images or threads about it, but i believe you guys are way better than me at that, so, if anyone could help :) apreciated

right now, i´m not sure what's Raphael´s
I can only see the bottom clearly

慣 (get experience) ?
http://redfinchjapanese.com/img/kanji/668.png
憤 (aroused) ?
http://redfinchjapanese.com/img/kanji/1804.png

Glados 07-22-2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grungethemovie (Post 1310208)
So, paying attention to the new footage released for the movie, I realized the turtles got a bunch of kanji written all over, either on their bandanas or Raphael´s scar tattoo
I'm trying to figure them out, so, if anyone has already or if someone finds some good images that we could identify them, I couldn't find images or threads about it, but i believe you guys are way better than me at that, so, if anyone could help :) apreciated

right now, i´m not sure what's Raphael´s
I can only see the bottom clearly

慣 (get experience) ?
http://redfinchjapanese.com/img/kanji/668.png
憤 (aroused) ?
http://redfinchjapanese.com/img/kanji/1804.png

Not "aroused", no... XD But I saw some posts on Tumblr looking in to it and apparently Raph's mean "beast", Don's mean "bright" (and it's followed by a turtle symbol) and Leo's mean "patient (child)". Haven't seen anything about Mikey's. Btw, anyone who knows what Raph's shoulder scarification means?

IndigoErth 07-22-2014 08:56 PM

There's a post within a thread somewhere that does mention these already, though I think it's a fun topic that deserves its own thread and wouldn't mind hearing more and further confirmation on translations.

I love that they have these, and completely love what Leo's supposedly says (and totally relateable..:tlove:) but I haven't found a good, clear shot of it on the side of his mask yet.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 07-22-2014 08:59 PM

i think someone somewhere said Leo has "Honor" on his

evan2000 07-23-2014 03:40 PM

I mentioned this in the trailer thread last month:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...15#post1292015

Well since we have a dedicated thread now (thanks!) I'll just quote it again here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan2000 (Post 1292015)
Guys! The turtles have words written on their bandanas too!



Leo's says 忍 ("Nin" as in Ninja, which means patience) 子 (child)

Raph's says 大 (big) 兽 (beast)

Don's looks like a turtle symbol followed by 明 (bright)

I cannot recognize what's written on Mikey's :trazz:

If any one can figure out Mikey's please do share it!

IndigoErth 07-23-2014 04:07 PM

I tried to ask them via Twitter and Facebook last night (along with the tattoos), but no response. They don't really seem to reply back to people much. I wish this would be an interesting tidbit of info they'd put out there. Unless of course there's going to be a direct explanation in the film, but I have my doubts.

grungethemovie 07-23-2014 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan2000 (Post 1310862)
I mentioned this in the trailer thread last month:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...15#post1292015

Well since we have a dedicated thread now (thanks!) I'll just quote it again here:



If any one can figure out Mikey's please do share it!

Whoa! good catch, i haven't even realized that Raph had a kanji there, That second to last pic of him is flipped so the kanji he's got is just 獣 that means "beast" already
Super thanks for the others!

I was refferring though to the one he's got on the top of his head that seems to be the same he's got scarred on his right shoulder (that would have to be sculpted on - if anyone gets the hint - and i didnt want to wait until the movie is out :/)


https://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpr...g?w=1024&h=384
http://i.imgur.com/7sBkWK6.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/7372e8e1...SZd1s39u24.png



And it would be very awesome if they did explain their meanings in the movie @_@

grungethemovie 07-23-2014 10:37 PM

ok, from the last spot, my best guess is
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E6%85%A3

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1311194)
New TV Spot with new Footage for Malaysia



Kanon 07-24-2014 01:13 AM

I posted this picture in another thread, but who cares? :P

http://33.media.tumblr.com/e0c5d1d33...pjwo1_1280.jpg

I know the quality is miserable.......my bad......
Hope I could help.

tinlunlau 07-24-2014 04:55 AM

憤 means "anger". Not arousement.

grungethemovie 07-24-2014 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanon (Post 1311325)
I posted this picture in another thread, but who cares? :P

http://33.media.tumblr.com/e0c5d1d33...pjwo1_1280.jpg

I know the quality is miserable.......my bad......
Hope I could help.

Every help is appreciated!

grungethemovie 07-24-2014 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinlunlau (Post 1311375)
憤 means "anger". Not arousement.

Then I think we have a winner :tthumbsu:

Kanon 07-24-2014 09:57 AM

Found something better! hope now you can find out what it is :D (I know it´s ripped, but the quality is better)

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9da5b8c98...vpjwo1_400.jpg

TheWarrior97 07-24-2014 10:13 AM

wife thinks the last kanji is either "dog" or "eighteen"

HotNunchuckFury 07-24-2014 11:25 AM

I love that they have their own symbols, wonder what Mikey's means.

grungethemovie 07-29-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanon (Post 1311534)
Found something better! hope now you can find out what it is :D (I know it´s ripped, but the quality is better)

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9da5b8c98...vpjwo1_400.jpg

that's 獣 - "beast"

Johnnyn21 08-11-2014 03:36 PM

Question on the kanji on raph back and the calling sign.
 
Hello does anyone know where I can get a picture of the kanji on raph back and in the movie where he leaves the kanji symbol when fighting the foot on the docks?

IndigoErth 08-11-2014 08:09 PM

I haven't come across any clear shots of the symbols on their backs, unfortunately, don't think we get many shots of them from behind and just standing still enough to get a clear look. :ohwell: Plus with straps and whatnot in the way, hard to see it really.

I don't personally recall ever seeing any of them actually spray painting anything anywhere in the movie, it's just kind there, but not seen who did it. As for the mark itself not yet found it online.



On a different note, better shot of the symbols on Leo's mask. Is it still what was originally believed to have said?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...ps098f8b2d.jpg

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 08:23 PM

The right side of Leo's bandana says musuko 息子 which means, Son.

I can speak and write Japanese btw.

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 08:27 PM

The sign the turtles left behind looks to be 家门, not sure... can't make it out too clear but there is no such word in Japanese.

Also, Oroku Saki's Japanese is..... good i would say. Not bad but a bit off from the typical japanese's speed + pronunciation. But not bad.

IndigoErth 08-11-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg (Post 1330252)
The sign the turtles left behind looks to be 家门, not sure... can't make it out too clear but there is no such word in Japanese.

Think it was the same as this on the wall of their dojo, if that helps.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...ps457582e6.jpg

Think the movie claimed it as a symbol for family? (Or was it a symbol for their family.) Although we all know Hollywood isn't always known for it's accuracy.



I hate (well not really hate) that they did not explain the ones on their masks, their tattoos etc. in the movie, even if just a quick mention...

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1330277)
Think it was the same as this on the wall of their dojo, if that helps.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...ps457582e6.jpg

Think the movie claimed it as a symbol for family? (Or was it a symbol for their family.) Although we all know Hollywood isn't always known for it's accuracy.



I hate (well not really hate) that they did not explain the ones on their masks, their tattoos etc. in the movie, even if just a quick mention...

Yeah, that's what i said, it looks like 家门.
but there's no such word in Japanese.

In chinese however it means the main door of the house.
家 itself is family/house, 门 is door.

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 09:29 PM

On a second thought, after thinking about it.... pretty sure there's no such word.

Japanese's kanji are not 100% similar, but very close to traditional chinese.
And traditional chinese door is written as 門

门 is the simplified chinese used only by China after they find traditional chinese too hard to write. Simplified chinese is only used in malaysia, singapore and china (among others that i know of).

Hong Kong, Taiwan uses traditional chinese.

Japanese are based off of traditional chinese but writings had evolved separately too so certain words are different from traditional chinese.

IndigoErth 08-11-2014 11:21 PM

Ah, I see. So it's all very possibly the Hollywood version of whatever the heck they came up with themselves then I guess? That's 'research' for ya.

Or maybe it's just a Rat and Turtles somehow falsely learning to speak, read, and write a language they really have no given reason to have knowledge of. (Let alone read or write English either.)

grungethemovie 08-13-2014 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1330491)
Ah, I see. So it's all very possibly the Hollywood version of whatever the heck they came up with themselves then I guess? That's 'research' for ya.

Or maybe it's just a Rat and Turtles somehow falsely learning to speak, read, and write a language they really have no given reason to have knowledge of. (Let alone read or write English either.)

good point XD

Spidergreg 08-13-2014 09:29 PM

I've seen American shows where they speak gibberish and then try to write it off as Japanese or Chinese. I'm asian, so i'm like................... :roll: But just fyi, Shredder's Japanese is legit.

grungethemovie 08-14-2014 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg (Post 1332234)
I've seen American shows where they speak gibberish and then try to write it off as Japanese or Chinese. I'm asian, so i'm like................... :roll: But just fyi, Shredder's Japanese is legit.

Well, the actor playing Shredder is Japanese, I don't think he would be ok with just talking gibberish (though "Oroku Saki" is quite the gibberish japanese name, right?)

Coola Yagami 08-14-2014 09:57 AM

That's another stupid thing. The symbol left behind as a calling card easily could have been used as a symbol for the Hamato clan. If there was a Hamato clan. If there was a saki and Yoshi rivalry.

Real wasted opportunity. So much wasted potential.

The True Shredder 08-14-2014 12:39 PM

Surrounded
 
Nerds. Nerds everywhere!

IndigoErth 08-14-2014 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The True Shredder (Post 1332678)
Nerds. Nerds everywhere!

Comes to forum about talking Turtle ninja people; expects pro athletes and upper crust executives.

Coola Yagami 08-14-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The True Shredder (Post 1332678)
Nerds. Nerds everywhere!

Not really no. Imagine how bad ass it would be if they did leave the Hamato Clan symbol as a calling card for Shredder to know 'we're coming for you'.

Kinda like the NickShredder recognized the Hamato symbol that made him book a flight to NY in the first place.

grungethemovie 08-16-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1332938)
Not really no. Imagine how bad ass it would be if they did leave the Hamato Clan symbol as a calling card for Shredder to know 'we're coming for you'.

Kinda like the NickShredder recognized the Hamato symbol that made him book a flight to NY in the first place.

That would have been awesome

grungethemovie 08-27-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan2000 (Post 1310862)
I mentioned this in the trailer thread last month:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...15#post1292015

Well since we have a dedicated thread now (thanks!) I'll just quote it again here:



If any one can figure out Mikey's please do share it!

i'm thinking mikey's maybe this sideways
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E6%97%A9

evan2000 09-02-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grungethemovie (Post 1341389)
i'm thinking mikey's maybe this sideways
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E6%97%A9

Hmm, I never thought of it being written sideways...

But still it doesn't look exactly right, and the meaning of 早 (early) doesn't quite relate to Mikey anyway. Still seems like an unsolved puzzle to me.

grungethemovie 09-02-2014 12:52 PM

well, i went more for the meaning than anything else XD

I'm having a hard time finding their kanji, seems like i'm gonna have to wait for the bluray

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...a37c764bc40c70

IndigoErth 09-02-2014 01:25 PM

Still disappointed that the film didn't go into any meaning of these details at all, it would easily add so much depth to the film for these little details to have a reason to exist and made known to the audience, rather than just simply being there because it "looks cool."

If it's just to look cool, that's kinda stupid... (Same with the tattoos. Someone who's bound to be a bit of a purist (at least in self) like Leo has one? Come on, then it stands to reason it should prob be meaningful to him. So where's the meaning.)

Commenter 42 09-05-2014 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grungethemovie (Post 1344292)
well, i went more for the meaning than anything else XD

I'm having a hard time finding their kanji, seems like i'm gonna have to wait for the bluray

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...a37c764bc40c70

I hate the 2014 turtles, but you're work is amazing. I'm betting there will be more than a few people drooling over your next customs.
Nice job.

Candy Kappa 09-05-2014 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg (Post 1332234)
I've seen American shows where they speak gibberish and then try to write it off as Japanese or Chinese. I'm asian, so i'm like................... :roll: But just fyi, Shredder's Japanese is legit.

Which, in a way is very fitting for this movie, considering Splinter's (seemingly) only Japanese tie-in is Gwen Stefani's music videos and that American book of "Ninjutsu"

grungethemovie 09-05-2014 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commenter 42 (Post 1345369)
I hate the 2014 turtles, but you're work is amazing. I'm betting there will be more than a few people drooling over your next customs.
Nice job.

thank you!

grungethemovie 09-08-2014 08:04 AM

well, i asked around the images thread, but since no one replied...
i need a HD pic of Mikey's back (with the graffiti kanji painted on his shell) so i can complete my custom figure :/
i cannot find a good pic anywhere (well, mostly around here XD) so i might have to wait for the bluray and hope i get a good screencapture :/


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