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CyberCubed 08-15-2014 09:07 PM

Disney rumored to buy Time Warner (and thus DC and Cartoon Network?)
 
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.p...universes.html

So Time Warner is the parent company to DC comics, Cartoon Network, and all those WB/Hanna-Barbera properties like Scooby Doo, Flintstones, Jetsons, Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, etc.

If Disney buys Time Warner, they will officially own the entire DC comics, and all those classic cartoon characters like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Scooby Doo, etc.

How will you feel about this? The merging of the DC and Marvel universes in both comics and the movies? Disney having Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny under one roof? Flintstones, Jetsons, and Scooby Doo officially being Disney characters?

You might say this will never happen, but 10 years ago nobody believed Disney would buy Marvel or Star Wars, yet here we are.

Redeemer 08-15-2014 09:34 PM

Wait Time Warner and in the cable company?????
I thought WB owned them or is WB and Time Warner the same company????????

Jester 08-15-2014 09:39 PM

Something tells me that won't happen...

CyberCubed 08-15-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1333695)
Something tells me that won't happen...

Well we never expected Nickelodeon to buy TMNT either a decade ago so...

Slade 08-15-2014 09:47 PM

Disney buying Marvel and Star Wars isn't the same thing.

No way this happens.


To me, the article actually makes it sound like they would screw up all those Looney Toon characters and the DC ones...

Jester 08-15-2014 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1333701)
Well we never expected Nickelodeon to buy TMNT either a decade ago so...

Apples to oranges. Viacom buying the Turtles doesn't gobble up the "Distinguished Competition". Marvel and DC merging would be HUGE! They are the Big Two of comics....TMNT is barely a blip on the radar compared to them.

oldmanwinters 08-15-2014 09:51 PM

The thought of Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny sharing the same papa just doesn't seem right.

It's Disney Time, Warner!

Netkeeper 08-15-2014 10:33 PM

Yeah I don't think this is going to happen, either. Time Warner is way too big for Disney to usurp them like that.

turtlefanforever 08-15-2014 10:38 PM

Hell no
 
This better not happen! They need to stay seperate

TheBlueTurtle1 08-16-2014 07:21 AM

This would be interesting if it happens, Bugs and Mickey cartoon series please:D

Whatswiththeheadbands? 08-16-2014 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1333745)
This better not happen! They need to stay seperate

I agree with this.

ObiWanFan4life 08-16-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands? (Post 1333966)
I agree with this.

As tiresome as the Marvel VS DC arguments get, I think that them sharing the same roof will only make it worse.

Cure 08-16-2014 08:29 AM

I hope it happens for the sheer craziness of it.

Prowler 08-16-2014 08:50 AM

This would be pretty weird. More awkward than WWF buying WCW. Or Sonic and Mario starring in games together.

CyberCubed 08-16-2014 09:10 AM

We could see Batman in Avengers 3 in 2018. Make it happen.

Katie 08-16-2014 10:06 AM

It was more interesting to me when fox was interested in it. Imagine Fox news and CNN being owned by the same people

DarkFell 08-16-2014 11:27 AM

Disney just needs to quit buying it's 'competitors' and just stick with making movies.

Someone once told me that the only reason that Disney even buys out the other companies (like LucasArts for example), is for the
visual technologies, software, and the like.

But Disney should still (in my opinion), stick to making movies.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 08-16-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1333707)
The thought of Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny sharing the same papa just doesn't seem right.

its more like Mickey would become Bugs' papa

Donatello19 08-16-2014 11:48 AM

I'd rather them stay separate, really...but whatever happens happens. I guess we'll see.

Wingnut 08-16-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFell (Post 1334059)
Disney just needs to quit buying it's 'competitors' and just stick with making movies.

Someone once told me that the only reason that Disney even buys out the other companies (like LucasArts for example), is for the
visual technologies, software, and the like.

But Disney should still (in my opinion), stick to making movies.

If Disney thinks that a buy out of Time Warner will make their shares jump another $50-60 I'd say it's a definite possibility.

That's all it boils down to.

ZariusTwo 08-16-2014 04:56 PM

I would not be surprised to see something as big as these giants in my lifetime be completly centralized.

CyberCubed 08-16-2014 07:17 PM

I'd love to see the DC and Marvel universes combine. It will be a fanboy dream come true. Disney might save the comic book market too as a result.

We can have Batman appearing in the Avengers, we can have cartoons where Superman meets Cyclops and they both shoot their red eye lasers at the same time, we can have Wonder Woman go to Asgard, etc.

Wildcat 08-16-2014 10:00 PM

Mickey meets Bugs

Donald meets Daffy

Scooby Doo visits Gravity Falls

Make it happen :D

Slade 08-16-2014 10:04 PM

The comic market is not dying.

MisfitKraang 08-16-2014 11:16 PM

If this happens....then it's true...Disney is the Anti-Christ:o

Whatswiththeheadbands? 08-17-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1334288)
I'd love to see the DC and Marvel universes combine. It will be a fanboy dream come true. Disney might save the comic book market too as a result.

We can have Batman appearing in the Avengers, we can have cartoons where Superman meets Cyclops and they both shoot their red eye lasers at the same time, we can have Wonder Woman go to Asgard, etc.

No, because that means we'll get really terrible DC Cartoons in the Future.

Redeemer 08-17-2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands? (Post 1334594)
No, because that means we'll get really terrible DC Cartoons in the Future.

Like that not already happening now with "Beware the Batman" :lol:

Leo656 08-17-2014 02:50 PM

Monopolies are pretty terrible, so that'd be a pretty bad worst-case scenario, once the fanboy afterglow and the novelty of "JLA vs. X-Men" or whatever wore off. Nothing "good" could ever come from one conglomerate basically "owning" the entire entertainment industry, which is exactly what it would amount to. People who follow wrestling are well aware of that, for example, as only having one major company present the product in 95% of the world for the last many years has resulted in an oftentimes bland, sterile, unimaginative, predictable, and boring product. They have no reason to innovate or take risks, because there is no one to compete with them.

I'd hate to see one corporation like Disney own everything, ALL the major super-heroes, ALL the major cartoon characters, ALL the major film franchises... that'd be awful. I don't think it'll happen. There's bound to be several dozen laws in place to prevent exactly that kind of thing from happening. I hope.

CyberCubed 08-17-2014 02:54 PM

Disney owning all the major superheroes is a good thing. DC has difficultly getting live-action movies out, all their cartoons are canceled by Cartoon Network after one season, and we get the crossovers we always dreamed of.

DC animation has been in a slump since the end of the DCAU back in 2006, with the only exceptions being Teen Titans and Young Justice. Brave and the Bold was also good for what it was.

Leo656 08-17-2014 02:56 PM

You are not a Big Picture person, sir.

CyberCubed 08-17-2014 02:59 PM

The big picture doesn't really matter at this point. DC had a 75+ year run so far, which is good, but what difference would it make now?

DC has trouble getting live-action movies in theaters, (and their extensive plan now can be helped with Disney backing), DC cartoons have been just as bad as recent Marvel cartoons, and comics...well, comics have always been a jumbled mess for years that it makes no difference.

I think its just fanboy bias at this point, that seeing Batman work together with Spiderman would feel wrong to people. Let alone that Blue Beetle is basically DC's Spiderman and we already see Batman working with tons of off-the-wall heroes.

Leo656 08-17-2014 03:52 PM

The Big Picture is ALL that matters, because one company should not own everything on planet Earth, regardless of how the cross-over cartoons and toys would turn out.

Monopolies = Bad. It has nothing to do with anything besides that. One group of people cannot be allowed to make all the money and own everything. No sane person thinks that leads to anything good. It never has and never will. That's why unions and anti-trust laws exist.

NinjaPug 08-17-2014 03:54 PM

I have no desire to see Disney purchase Time Warner if they aren't going to run it as a separate entity with no crossovers whatsoever. Having Batman pop up in an Avengers movie is ridiculous (and wouldn't happen under the current regime anyway even if Disney had all the rights).

CyberCubed 08-17-2014 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1334827)
Monopolies = Bad. It has nothing to do with anything besides that. One group of people cannot be allowed to make all the money and own everything. No sane person thinks that leads to anything good. It never has and never will. That's why unions and anti-trust laws exist.

What would there be a monopoly over? There are still other superhero comics not from DC or Marvel, those would continue to exist.

In terms of movies? How often do we get comic book movies other than DC and Marvel? TMNT and what else?

In terms of cartoons? What's the difference?

Megchan 08-17-2014 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1334402)
Mickey meets Bugs

Donald meets Daffy

Scooby Doo visits Gravity Falls

Make it happen :D

Mickey and Bugs have already met. A few Disney and Warner Brothers characters appeared together in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.

Leo656 08-17-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1334833)
What would there be a monopoly over? There are still other superhero comics not from DC or Marvel, those would continue to exist.

In terms of movies? How often do we get comic book movies other than DC and Marvel? TMNT and what else?

In terms of cartoons? What's the difference?

It's pretty laughable to think any other comic book company or animation company or film company would even matter anymore if Disney/Marvel and Time Warner/DC became one big company. They would over-saturate the market with so much of their own product, even moreso than they already do now, to the point where anyone else may not even exist. And a lot of it wouldn't even be good product, it would just be "If we put out a ton of our own stuff, nobody'll even care about the other companies and their stuff." If they could, eventually they would just come in and buy out Dark horse or IDW if they felt like it. Who'd stop 'em? People are already complaining that the products coming out of these companies are stale, rushed out and cookie cutter. Could you honestly imagine if it was all one giant company? Ooof. Awful awful scenario.

Again, Big Picture.

Wildcat 08-17-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megchan (Post 1334835)
Mickey and Bugs have already met. A few Disney and Warner Brothers characters appeared together in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.

Oh really. Didn't know or remember. I saw Roger Rabbit a very long time ago. Anyway I meant in full cartoons.

I don't see the problem with Disney owning all these franchises. They already appear everywhere anyway. Plus we could get some awesome Disney theme park stuff aswell as the crossovers.

Does Universal Studios have cartoon based rides? I don't think they do. I know they have special attractions for promoting stuff sometimes right?

I think if your against it it's because you prefer companies to rival each other. Not that they hate each other...just the separate element. Its not like Disney will buy every newcomer from here on out.

Redeemer 08-17-2014 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1334782)
Monopolies are pretty terrible, so that'd be a pretty bad worst-case scenario, once the fanboy afterglow and the novelty of "JLA vs. X-Men" or whatever wore off. Nothing "good" could ever come from one conglomerate basically "owning" the entire entertainment industry, which is exactly what it would amount to. People who follow wrestling are well aware of that, for example, as only having one major company present the product in 95% of the world for the last many years has resulted in an oftentimes bland, sterile, unimaginative, predictable, and boring product. They have no reason to innovate or take risks, because there is no one to compete with them.

I'd hate to see one corporation like Disney own everything, ALL the major super-heroes, ALL the major cartoon characters, ALL the major film franchises... that'd be awful. I don't think it'll happen. There's bound to be several dozen laws in place to prevent exactly that kind of thing from happening. I hope.

Completely agree Leo this would be horrible for the comic industry.
WWE was never the same after they bought WCW. I stopped watching it shortly after the WWE VS WWE war.

Slade 08-17-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1334891)
Oh really. Didn't know or remember. I saw Roger Rabbit a very long time ago. Anyway I meant in full cartoons.

I don't see the problem with Disney owning all these franchises. They already appear everywhere anyway. Plus we could get some awesome Disney theme park stuff aswell as the crossovers.

Does Universal Studios have cartoon based rides? I don't think they do. I know they have special attractions for promoting stuff sometimes right?

I think if your against it it's because you prefer companies to rival each other. Not that they hate each other...just the separate element. Its not like Disney will buy every newcomer from here on out.

Ugh, yeah, not at all.

Cryomancer 08-17-2014 10:30 PM

The biggest issue I see here is that anything Disney owns is gonna be completely held back from public domain as long as possible, including changing the laws of the nation to let it continue. Disney is specifically why public domain currently takes forever. But that's the long term view.

Short term, I guess it would be good if this meant good DC movies and good Marvel cartoons, since those seem to never happen while the inverse continues to, or at least did re: DC cartoons. This also makes Rodger Rabbit a much more simple process to continue! But of course Mario is dead now so that makes it harder.

The weird part would be that this means Disney would own stuff like Space Ghost, Aqua Teen etc.


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