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CyberCubed 08-26-2014 07:21 PM

Does Avatar: The Last Airbender get better?
 
So after all this time of ignoring the show I couldn't take the hype online so I finally decided to break down and watch it, with the intention of watching Korra after it.

I only watched the first two episodes so far. Overall, the show is much more lighter in tone than I expected. It almost seems like a kiddie show, with the characters having fun slapstick fights with each other instead of serious fighting. Aang seems like Goku only stupider, and Katara is the typical girl protagonist you see in a million other shows. The fights (at least in the first two episodes) were silly with character poking each other with sticks and making anime expressions when they got hit instead of showing serious damage or being hurt in any way.

It almost reminds me of Teen Titans, just not as funny. I thought this show was more along the lines of Gargoyles and Young Justice? Does the tone/story of the show pick up, or does it remain like it is in the first two episodes? Also I hate the fact that "shipping" has reeked its ugly head already in the first two episodes, with Katara teased about Aang being her boyfriend. Shipping...ALREADY, in the first two episodes. Ugh, guess it gives those girls on tumblr something to post 10 page rants about. :roll:

Peanut 08-26-2014 07:23 PM

Yes, clown. Watch two episodes of a 50+ episode show and immediately write it off? Give me a break.

I watched it at the behest of Cure years ago and it took me around 8 or so episodes before I really got into it. It's incredible. I didn't read the rest of your nonsense, because it's probably bullsh*t.

Darthchubby 08-26-2014 07:37 PM

Of course it's a kid show. But it gets better as it progresses. Keep watching it and I think you'll enjoy it.

Jester 08-26-2014 07:39 PM

As you tell everyone with regards to the FW series, give it more than 2 episodes before calling it quits....

CyberCubed 08-26-2014 08:07 PM

So I watched episode 3, this one was a bit better than the first two. So is Prince Zucco the "Vegeta" of this series? The bad guy who turns good? They're already painting him as someone to root for given he had to beat the other Fire guy and is viewed as honorable along with his uncle.

He also has Robin's voice from Teen Titans, so I figure he's the typical "badass anime character" who turns good and sides with the heroes at some point.

Aang is really putting me off due to reminding me of a cross between Goku and Krillin from DBZ. Also does Katara's brother ever amount to anything but comic relief? He really does nothing but constantly becomes a running joke of losing/failing at everything he does.

BabyTurtles 08-26-2014 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1340767)
So I watched episode 3, this one was a bit better than the first two. So is Prince Zucco the "Vegeta" of this series? The bad guy who turns good? They're already painting him as someone to root for given he had to beat the other Fire guy and is viewed as honorable along with his uncle.

He also has Robin's voice from Teen Titans, so I figure he's the typical "badass anime character" who turns good and sides with the heroes at some point.

Aang is really putting me off due to reminding me of a cross between Goku and Krillin from DBZ. Also does Katara's brother ever amount to anything but comic relief? He really does nothing but constantly becomes a running joke of losing/failing at everything he does.

1) Zuko (that's how you spell it ^_^) is voiced by Dante Basco not Robin from Teen Titans.

2) Aang is childish at first but learns that the world is on his shoulders and becomes mature

3)Sokka is more than comic relief, he's pretty much the leader of the team. He's the strategist and common sense of the group

4) Katara is one of the best heroines of all time (keep watching)

5) season one is the most light-hearted season but it picks up with each episode~

TurtleTitan97 08-26-2014 08:46 PM

It's ironic how he's complaining how "childish" Avatar is after just 3 episodes, but when it comes to the OT he'll defend it to the bitter end when someone calls out how kiddie it can be at times.

Darthchubby 08-26-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1340802)
It's ironic how he's complaining how "childish" Avatar is after just 3 episodes, but when it comes to the OT he'll defend it to the bitter end when someone calls out how kiddie it can be at times.

As much as I love the original Turtles cartoon if you start to compare it to Avatar it won't be pretty. I think when it comes to toons the only Turtles one that compares is the 2003 version. Maybe it fell off in some episodes/seasons but of the three it's been the most consistent.

snake 08-26-2014 09:13 PM

Kids acting like kids in a show aimed at kids.


The series does mature though.

sdp 08-26-2014 09:34 PM

I enjoyed the premise of the show since the first episodes since it seemed like a fun cartoon and I would've enjoyed a whole show like that. However the show surprises you by being so much more, Young Justice and even Gargoyles aren't as good as this show, that's how good Avatar is. The show gets a lot better.

If you don't like the anime expressions then too bad since those will continue, it's very Teen Titan-esque in that regard even if it doesn't go to such extremes as TT did, I like it but if you don't you'll have to deal with it if you enjoy the show. It knows how to use it correctly though and not overuse it. And if you don't like "shipping" then you'll also have to endure that since there's plenty of that, I personally loved it and it was done very well, it's not as annoying as the shipping in the new TMNT cartoon or most cartoons for that matter.

plastroncafe 08-26-2014 09:46 PM

You should stop watching it now.
It doesn't get any better.
Just...don't even bother.

You're going to hate it.

CyberCubed 08-26-2014 09:48 PM

Also I don't understand why Katara went on a rant about her brother being sexist in the first episode. It almost seems like that scene was only thrown in there to attract tumblr feminists to the show.

Cure 08-26-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1340847)
It almost seems like that scene was only thrown in there to attract tumblr feminists to the show.

Tumblr was founded in 2007. The show started in 2005. Sh*thead.

Peanut 08-26-2014 10:13 PM

Yeah, a show that came out before Tumblr even existed was trying to cater to Tumblr.

sdp 08-26-2014 10:15 PM

I guess that means that Tumblr was created for Feminist Avatar fans, we now have a legit reason to dislike the show despite of its quality.

Davetello 08-26-2014 10:48 PM

I've only seen the first season. I quite enjoyed it, though.

BabyTurtles 08-26-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1340847)
Also I don't understand why Katara went on a rant about her brother being sexist in the first episode. It almost seems like that scene was only thrown in there to attract tumblr feminists to the show.

Sokka being sexist in the first episodes of Avatar was a character flaw he had, it's something he learns to stop being...not just something they put in for Katara to yell at so she could break the ice for Aang or.....for feminist.

Mona_Lisa 08-26-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Darthchubby (Post 1340742)
Of course it's a kid show. But it gets better as it progresses. Keep watching it and I think you'll enjoy it.

It gets better, and darker but it is still a kids show. Just an awesome one.:D That said it takes more that two episodes to get into it! I loved Avatar: The last airbender! I'm not a fan of the legend of Korra...

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1340847)
Also I don't understand why Katara went on a rant about her brother being sexist in the first episode. It almost seems like that scene was only thrown in there to attract tumblr feminists to the show.

Well I'm NOT a feminist (even though I'm a girl) But Kataras brother was sexist, lol! He thought women were basically helpless and had to have men to protect them at all times!

CyberCubed 08-26-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa (Post 1340913)
I loved Avatar: The last airbender! I'm not a fan of the legend of Korra...

Yeah I've heard Korra isn't as good, which is a shame because I liked the fact that a female was the lead of that one. I'm not too fond of Aang so far, he reminds me too much of all those silly anime heroes which is what he's based on.

Also can't stand the fact that he's bald, like those bald monks Krillin is based on. I really wish this show wasn't done in anime style but traditional american animation instead, I'm not too fond of imitation anime.

Peanut 08-26-2014 11:12 PM

Can we all please just start ignoring him? Please?

Netkeeper 08-26-2014 11:44 PM

How about watching more than a few episodes before you start your complain-fest? At least wait until you get to meet Toph [who is the best character].

ssjup81 08-27-2014 12:18 AM

I've never seen this show, but have heard good things about it. Maybe you should finish out a season to see how it goes and then give a full opinion then and if you'd like to continue the series.

CyberCubed 08-27-2014 01:27 AM

Watched the next two episodes. Sokka fighting those Kabuki women and bringing up the sexist card again is getting old already. Does this show really need to beat us over the head that women can be strong fighters? OK, we get it. Women are just as good as men, there are no gender stereotypes in this show. Its almost as bad as those eco-preaching shows about pollution and recycling.

The other episode about Aang meeting his crazy friend as the king and going through tests was alright. The fight scene at the end was nice, even if I notice there's hardly any contact in this show as its mostly about avoiding attacks.

Show is actually starting to remind me of Pokemon, especially with the traveling aspect and meeting a new animal every episode. Previous one had that giant fish/serpent, this episode with the rabbits in the test, etc.

When does Katara get her own episode? She really hasn't done much so far.

Sage Ninja 08-27-2014 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1340847)
Also I don't understand why Katara went on a rant about her brother being sexist in the first episode. It almost seems like that scene was only thrown in there to attract tumblr feminists to the show.

Wow shut up already. Sometimes I think people treat you unfairly but man you really do say some pretty stupid ignorant crap sometimes. I wonder at times if you are genuine or just trolling. If you watch the show long enough you will see that her "sexist" comment is not arbitrary and actually comes into play culturally in regards to the northern water tribe. But if the mere mention of a character being sexist is enough for you to get riled and start announcing how it is meant to attract a fanatical group on a piece of **** blogging site (a narrow minded fanaticism you display in general on regular basis I might add), then don't watch the rest of the season because it becomes a plot point later on.

CyberCubed 08-27-2014 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja (Post 1341002)
I wonder at times if you are genuine or just trolling. If you watch the show long enough you will see that her "sexist" comment is not arbitrary and actually comes into play culturally in regards to the northern water tribe.

Well I'm not that far in the show yet, I can only judge what I've seen. Obviously I'm not reading spoilers or anything yet.

Is the whole first season just about Zuko and the fire tribe trying to capture Aang? I hope there's more variety than that in 20 episodes.

ssjup81 08-27-2014 02:27 AM

What are some good points about the show so far?

Netkeeper 08-27-2014 08:11 AM

In the time you've spent complaining, I could have been halfway through the whole show by now.

MrTMNT2012 08-27-2014 10:47 AM

Watch Episode 13: The Storm.

Then try to stop watching the series from that point on. It's impossible.

MrTMNT2012 08-27-2014 10:48 AM

I actually like the format Cubed is taking with this. We can see how different his first impression will be from his final! :)

Cure 08-27-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012 (Post 1341134)
I actually like the format Cubed is taking with this. We can see how different his first impression will be from his final! :)

I can almost guarantee it won't change.

MrTMNT2012 08-27-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1341136)
I can almost guarantee it won't change.

I'll bet on it. Even I hated Avatar during it's first few episodes!

plastroncafe 08-27-2014 10:56 AM

If you like reading first impressions of A:tLA, Mark Reads, Nostalgia Critic, and The Mary Sue are a better bet.

snake 08-27-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1340921)
Can we all please just start ignoring him? Please?

I've done that a long time ago.

CyberCubed 08-27-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1341076)
In the time you've spent complaining, I could have been halfway through the whole show by now.

I'm only going to be watching 3-4 episodes a day, I have no time to marathon through more than that. I don't like "rushing" through shows either, especially for ones I've never seen before.

Lastly I have a full-time job and I like to play videogames in my time off, so I'm not using all my free time just for Avatar.

Leofan26 08-27-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1340918)
Yeah I've heard Korra isn't as good, which is a shame because I liked the fact that a female was the lead of that one. I'm not too fond of Aang so far, he reminds me too much of all those silly anime heroes which is what he's based on.

Also can't stand the fact that he's bald, like those bald monks Krillin is based on. I really wish this show wasn't done in anime style but traditional american animation instead, I'm not too fond of imitation anime.

:lol:
Ok, if you continue watching the series Aang gets more mature as the series moves on.

Also, don't go just on other people's opinions, granted in my opinion the first two seasons of Korra weren't as good as the previous series the third season is hard to ignore, I think you'll really enjoy that one.

Let me ask you one question though, what do you consider kiddie? This show gets darker and darker as it goes on.

Why are you even comparing this show to Dragon Ball Z? That doesn't make sense in the slightest, they are two completely different shows. I hated when fans of Naruto compared the two but that made more sense than comparing it to Dragon Ball Z :lol:

MrTMNT2012 08-27-2014 01:12 PM

I already said this but I think Korra is vastly superior to Avatar even I though I prefer the original characters like Zuko. It just took it's audience seriously from the start and kept making bold choices after bold choices. It's definitely more mature and darker in tone but the humour is WAY weaker than Avatar...

plastroncafe 08-27-2014 01:30 PM

I'll give Korra credit where credit is due.
It did take bold stances on things, and has some amazing additions to the world.

The first two books are paced horribly. While I like many of the major plot points and much of the A Stories, the B Stories suffer a lot.

The first two Book of Korra are not as good as they could have been.
Book Three, however, is fantastic from beginning to end.

MrTMNT2012 08-27-2014 01:47 PM

Book: Earth is still my favourite overall! The writing and character development in that season rivals some of the best TV Dramas.

Peanut 08-27-2014 01:55 PM

If there's a human being alive who can make it through season 1 and 2 of Avatar and then not feel ANYTHING during the incredible developments of season 3, they are a monster. It is perhaps the only show I've been completely and 100% satisfied with by its conclusion.

And this is coming from someone who literally took DAYS to finish the first episode, because I kept falling asleep. It took me close to a month to get 5 or 6 episodes in. The stories, the characters and the general writing get stronger and more engaging as they go.

pharaohyami5000 08-27-2014 02:16 PM

Try to focus on the main plot of the show before you get distracted by judging characters, animation, personalities and the story or compare it to something else.

I've watched my fair share of anime before Avatar was released, and though I usually watch one episode per day just to test the waters, this is one of the many series I found myself wanting to watch 2+ episodes because I'm curious on what's going to happen next. It's the same mindset I had when I watched TMNT 2k3 due to it being pretty endearing and wanting more of it.

I've yet to watch Korra because I'm actually waiting for it to get near the end, which I think today is the right time for me to begin.


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