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TheBlueTurtle1 09-23-2014 09:06 AM

Diddy Kong Racing 2 Might be in the works
 
http://mynintendonews.com/2014/07/12...umours-pop-up/

One of many articles, It seems likely. The only 2 characters to return from the original are slated to be Diddy (of course) and Timber. Timber was the only character Nintendo bought from rare.

I would love this to happen.

CyberCubed 09-23-2014 02:28 PM

I seriously doubt this is true. Diddy Kong being absent in Mario Kart 8 means nothing, its the same oddity as Bowser Jr not being there despite all 7 Koopalings being included.

Gin Rummy 09-23-2014 04:34 PM

If true this would be sweet. I actually Enjoyed Diddy Kong more than Mario Kart 64 when I was young.

Peanut 09-23-2014 04:48 PM

Wait, how does that Timber thing make sense at all? All the original characters were in DKRDS, with the exception of Banjo and Conker, including Timber.

Either way, if this is true I will flip. Love DKR. The talk about Amiibos for every Nintendo thing ever is probably more exciting though.

ssjup81 09-23-2014 08:10 PM

Why wouldn't they have the rights to the other characters outside of Conker and Banjo? Weren't they all in the DS version with the addition of Tiny and Dixie (which I hated, because they aged Tiny but not Diddy and Dixie)?

It would be interesting. I mean there would've been no story without Timber, who I did favor. Actually, I liked Diddy, Timber, and Conker and imagined them as the best of friends.
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Originally Posted by Gin Rummy (Post 1353709)
If true this would be sweet. I actually Enjoyed Diddy Kong more than Mario Kart 64 when I was young.

So did I. Still one of my favorite racing games.

sdp 09-23-2014 10:34 PM

I doubt this rumor is true, I remember it popped up months ago though. I'd love it if it were true but with MK8 DLC coming, would they really release another Nintendo Kart racer for the Wii U? The plane/boat dynamic and changing stages/item upgrading just isn't enough to justify a new game when you're still supporting MK with DLC.

As far as character rights, I did a lot of research about this moons ago, and I knew the exact answer however I don't remember 100% anymore. Anywho the story is DKR DS had everyone except Banjo/Conker so people assumed Nintendo owned the rest of the characters but if you looked at the credits they mention some characters are owned by Rare but it wasn't clear. This was asked in their old website and they mentioned Banjo/Conker was owned by Rare and Nintendo owned all the Kongs and things made for DKC which include the Kremling character in DKR. They also mentioned the other characters ownership was a little more complicated and couldn't comment on them. The part I don't remember 100% is if they mentioned other characters who were definitely owned by Rare like the yellow mouse, I vaguely recall something like that but don't remember. Anyway I think with the other characters they either jointly own them (which is why Rare never used them again) or it was complicated because it could be said they were original characters or also Kong Universe characters. I think to avoid any legal battles they just have a vague "characters by Rare" in the remake. But also the reason why neither Nintendo nor Rare has really touched those characters outside the remake. But that last part is just speculation.

It brings up interesting situations though since one of the beaver enemies from DKC is a character with name in Banjo Kazooie but it appeared in the Xbox port, and you run into a bunch of examples like this since Rare loved putting easter eggs in their games. I remember reading from an ex-Rare employee that when the sale happened NoA could've kept Rare's IPs but let them keep them as a sign of good faith which is why they had such a good relationship post-sale and when NoJ found out they were pissed. Maybe Microsoft wouldn't have bought them for as much(not like they took care of the IPs..)? Who knows but if this is actually true then yeah they ****ed up big time since it would've cleared any hassle when it came to rights of Rare games and as a fanboy it was sad to lose those previous exclusive IPs but seeing the sale more than 10 years later and not as a fanboy, fans really got the raw end of the deal as well since Microsoft shat on those IPs and Nintendo would've taken much better care of them even if it took them a few years to do it (like with Donkey Kong)


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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1353791)
Weren't they all in the DS version with the addition of Tiny and Dixie (which I hated, because they aged Tiny but not Diddy and Dixie)?

Well they aged her because it made no sense to have two girl Kongs with Pigtails and only slightly different faces. In the original N64 game it didn't matter since Dixie wasn't there. They probably didn't age Dixie since she was more iconic in her original version while Tiny Kong had been forgotten by most.

ssjup81 09-23-2014 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1353837)
Well they aged her because it made no sense to have two girl Kongs with Pigtails and only slightly different faces. In the original N64 game it didn't matter since Dixie wasn't there. They probably didn't age Dixie since she was more iconic in her original version while Tiny Kong had been forgotten by most.

Tiny had pigtails in DK64. Dixie has always been portrayed wearing her hair in a ponytail. Very different. It's easy to tell them apart. Dixie is her older sister. It was crazy to age her. They should've left her as is, or tossed in another Kong altogether.

CyberCubed 09-24-2014 01:31 AM

Every Kong after Donkey/Diddy/Dixie has been horrible.

I hope Kiddy Kong and the 3 from DK64 burn in the pits of hell. We don't need to see any of them again. The Kong characters they were creating were god awful.

They should simply stick to Donkey, Diddy, Dixie, Cranky and Funky and forget the rest.

ssjup81 09-24-2014 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1353885)
Every Kong after Donkey/Diddy/Dixie has been horrible.

I hope Kiddy Kong and the 3 from DK64 burn in the pits of hell. We don't need to see any of them again. The Kong characters they were creating were god awful.

They should simply stick to Donkey, Diddy, Dixie, Cranky and Funky and forget the rest.

I didn't care much for Kiddy (neutral) but I liked Tiny, Chunky, and Lanky.

Lanky was funny. Tiny was adorable. Chunky was hilarious! He was the toughest looking and ironically, he was the scary one of the group. lol Oh and him with the triangle while on his tippy toes, crazy! lol

Anyway, so Diddy can have a gf but Donkey Kong can't have a gf and Cranky can't have a wife?

Prowler 09-24-2014 12:34 PM

A new DKR would be great. The original still holds up pretty well, but the items weren't as good as the ones in MK. If they really make a new DKR game, then they should improve the items significantly.

As for the Kong characters, I'm not interested in seeing Lanky, Chunky and much less Tiny again. But I wouldn't say that I hate them. I did like DK 64 when I was a kid, but it was a step down from the DKC series.

sdp 09-24-2014 12:46 PM

Rare has always been hit or miss with their designs, for every cool design they have a terrible one and they did go overboard with the Kong families but this was done since the SNES days. I still don't like K. Rool. Redeemable Kongs outside of Dixie/Diddy include Funky, Cranky, older Tiny.
All the others do feel like Furry "Original Content do not steal". Too bad about the Fury culture or more specifically the internets obsession with the furry culture. It really makes you feel dirty for liking any anthropomorphic franchise instead of something fun and innocent like they're meant to be.

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1353912)
He was the toughest looking and ironically, he was the scary one of the group. lol

Anyway, so Diddy can have a gf but Donkey Kong can't have a gf and Cranky can't have a wife?

How is that ironic?
And what? DK has a gf with Candy Kong, I don't think Diddy has a gf (is it Dixie?) And Cranky has a wife, Pauline. How do you think DK Jr. was born.

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1353860)
Tiny had pigtails in DK64. Dixie has always been portrayed wearing her hair in a ponytail. Very different. It's easy to tell them apart. Dixie is her older sister. It was crazy to age her. They should've left her as is, or tossed in another Kong altogether.

See I made a mistake with the pigtails and yet you tell me that its easy to tell them apart. Sure they are different and can tell them apart when they're next to each other but they still have a lot of similarities so they decided to age her so there would be more differences. Should she have been another Kong? Well that's a different question.

ssjup81 09-24-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1354014)
How is that ironic?

Ironic funny because he was scared of stuff and didn't want to fight.
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And what? DK has a gf with Candy Kong, I don't think Diddy has a gf (is it Dixie?) And Cranky has a wife, Pauline. How do you think DK Jr. was born.
Yeah...where did you get that from about Pauline? lol

Donkey Kong x Candy
Diddy x Dixie
Cranky x Wrinkly (I know she's dead)
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See I made a mistake with the pigtails and yet you tell me that its easy to tell them apart. Sure they are different and can tell them apart when they're next to each other but they still have a lot of similarities so they decided to age her so there would be more differences. Should she have been another Kong? Well that's a different question.
Tiny is smaller, wears different clothes, and has a different hairstyle from Dixie. I still don't see how anyone could confuse a ponytail with pigtails as both are very different.
How can these obviously different styles be confusing?

The only way I could see there being confusion if they were both using their hair abilities, which they didn't because they were racing.

CyberCubed 09-24-2014 05:46 PM

I'm pretty sure in the DKC2 instruction manuals they call Dixie, "Diddy's girlfriend."

oldmanwinters 09-24-2014 08:31 PM

Diddy Kong Racing was my favorite N64 racer as well, even though it always seemed very clear that Diddy was pasted into the game as an afterthought... it didn't feel much like a game in the Donkey Kong universe outside of that wonderful music perhaps...

Man, I could just listen to that character selection music all day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3J12MWjhEk

snake 09-24-2014 08:59 PM

Hopefully this is true.

oldmanwinters 09-24-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1354144)
I'm pretty sure in the DKC2 instruction manuals they call Dixie, "Diddy's girlfriend."

I think it's only Cranky's misogynistic worldview that refers to Dixie flat-out as Diddy's girlfriend (page 4). The manual takes a more non-committal stance that the two are simply "inseparable friends and go everywhere together. Both share a love of adventure and the awesome abilities to make it fun!"

http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.2137

ssjup81 09-24-2014 10:01 PM

I thought it was referenced in-game too. The whole Diddy/Dixie thing. I know it was for the old show.

Ninjinister 09-24-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1353837)
Well they aged her because it made no sense to have two girl Kongs with Pigtails and only slightly different faces.

Pfft. Racist.

ssjup81 09-24-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1354309)
Pfft. Racist.

Wouldn't it be Apeist? Kongist? :-P

Prowler 09-25-2014 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1354251)
Diddy Kong Racing was my favorite N64 racer as well, even though it always seemed very clear that Diddy was pasted into the game as an afterthought... it didn't feel much like a game in the Donkey Kong universe outside of that wonderful music perhaps...

Man, I could just listen to that character selection music all day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3J12MWjhEk

That's not even one of the best tracks in the game, dude. Why listen to the character selection theme all day when you could listen to the lobby theme, the boss theme or the battle theme? :P

ssjup81 09-25-2014 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1354402)
That's not even one of the best tracks in the game, dude. Why listen to the character selection theme all day when you could listen to the lobby theme, the boss theme or the battle theme? :P

I personally really liked the music for Haunted Woods, Star City, Greeenwood Village, Crescent Island, and Frosty Village.

Peanut 09-25-2014 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1354402)
That's not even one of the best tracks in the game, dude. Why listen to the character selection theme all day when you could listen to the lobby theme, the boss theme or the battle theme? :P

Uh...wrong? If you can't appreciate how incredible the character select music is, particularly the unique instrumentation for each character, then you've no right to pass judgement on any of songs in the soundtrack.

TheBlueTurtle1 09-25-2014 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1353885)
Every Kong after Donkey/Diddy/Dixie has been horrible.

I hope Kiddy Kong and the 3 from DK64 burn in the pits of hell. We don't need to see any of them again. The Kong characters they were creating were god awful.

They should simply stick to Donkey, Diddy, Dixie, Cranky and Funky and forget the rest.

I am not gonna lie, I love Lanky Kong, I think he has more to offer in gameplay, than Dixie and Funky. He should be pushed as a playable character in the next DK returns.

Not much of a fan of Kiddy or Chunky or Tiny tho.

Luke795 09-25-2014 04:10 PM

Kiddy Kong is called Dinky Kong in Japan.

CyberCubed 09-25-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1 (Post 1354428)
I am not gonna lie, I love Lanky Kong, I think he has more to offer in gameplay, than Dixie and Funky. He should be pushed as a playable character in the next DK returns.

Not much of a fan of Kiddy or Chunky or Tiny tho.

Every Kong after Dixie has been horrible. They should have just stuck to that trio.

Dixie was acceptable because she's a female Kong and works well with Diddy. Once they started going with overgrown babies (Kiddy), redneck hillbillies (Lanky), clones (Tiny), and whatever the hell Chunky is supposed to be, it went downhill.

Thank god Nintendo got rid of all those other awful Kongs and only brought back Dixie.

ssjup81 09-25-2014 06:27 PM

Meh, I still like the fact they have families. That's why I don't mind the other Kongs so much.

oldmanwinters 09-26-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1354426)
If you can't appreciate how incredible the character select music is, particularly the unique instrumentation for each character, then you've no right to pass judgement on any of songs in the soundtrack.

Indeed. How many other game evidences such care put into the character selection music? That's attention to detail.

Since this rumor is already a couple years running, I really doubt there's a DKR2 coming soon. However, I would be greatly excited if it did. I maybe in the minority, but on the Wii U, I prefer Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed to the more warmly received Mario Kart 8, mostly because the implementation of water and air racing modes reminder me of the uniqueness of Diddy Kong Racing.

TheBlueTurtle1 09-27-2014 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1354717)
Every Kong after Dixie has been horrible. They should have just stuck to that trio.

Dixie was acceptable because she's a female Kong and works well with Diddy. Once they started going with overgrown babies (Kiddy), redneck hillbillies (Lanky), clones (Tiny), and whatever the hell Chunky is supposed to be, it went downhill.

Thank god Nintendo got rid of all those other awful Kongs and only brought back Dixie.

The problem was, they wanted Dixie to be the main kong of DKC 3, and they couldn't have DK ( the main star) play second fiddle to Dixie, so a clone was created.

It was ok for the most part. I don't hate Kiddy, Chunky or tiny, but they are not on the level of the trio and Lanky.

I do hate all those swanky kongs and other characters like him tho.


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