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If you could only change one aspect of the Nick series, what would it be?
So we've all voiced and read each others' complaints, disappointments and suggestions with the Nick series, but let's try to determine exactly what they are, and add up (the poll) which aspect of the series everyone would want to improve the most.
Edit: :P You can talk about more than one topic on this thread, but this thread and, more specifically, the poll above were designated to narrow in on an individual's foremost wanted change for the series. Edit 2: Just for clarification, in case if some of you were wondering what the "Type of Comedy" poll option means, it refers to the type of comedic material being used for the show. Edit 3: :lol: Okay, so to be technically correct here. The option "The Shipping and Love Triangle(s)" is "The Crushes and Love Triangle(s)", but you all can understand to what I'm referring to here. :P |
I would let Dominic continue voicing as Leo (I'm still trying to get used to Seth's voice though).
I would delete Timothy's existence from ever happening. They could just like found Mutagen Man already mutated and that's good enough. I would show human Irma being captured and hidden by Kraangs. ---- Oh, you mean only one? .... Irma then. I want that girl back with the gang. |
Have Jess Harnell on the show to voice a character to work with Greg Cipes and Rob Paulsen!
Ok seriously, tea time girl! |
Xever still being a human. He hasn't really done anything mutanty since his mutation unlike Bradford(aside from biting Raph) and I liked his human design.
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Bring in da humans! Less mutants.
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'Major plot point is dropped' (Splinter revealing to Leo that Karai is his daughter, Karai getting mutated, etc.)
'Major plot point is completely dropped off the face of the earth for 1/3rd of the season'. So frustrating. Part of what made The Invasion so grand was that it immediately followed Into Dimension X! |
This is so hard....
I was stuck between changing April's story/changing up some of the characters/and shipping ...but shipping won XD....I would love the shipping to be totally gone from this show~ |
I didn't even see a poll when this thread started, it's literally not there! :lol:
*reads options* |
Hmm, so many good choices to pick from, my main beef with the series is all this romance stories they keep adding :ohwell:
I'd like to add in skipping around with major arcs going on, one moment we are dealing with personal issues like Karai's secret than oohs filler sorry, couple of episodes later " By the way, she's our sister folks! " No reactions either, you would have thought of all plot twists that'd have affected them emotionally the most, nothing :lol: |
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As of this moment after the most recent episode... The show wants you to want one of the guys, just pick a damn boyfriend already. I. Don't. Even. Care. if you want to be young and experimental and try being with a talking turtle person.. either just choose, or I bludgeon you to death with a foam Nerf bat. And that will take a while. It will soon be to the point that an awkward human/turtle-person pairing will be less painful than an continuing triangle. (Or is that what the show has been waiting for, to be tired of it long enough that people give up and are fine with it.)
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I didn't vote for this, but Plot/Arc Amnesia is something IMO that can cause problems for the long term.
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Glad to see my term plot amnesia caught on. Here's hoping it gets its own page at TVTropes. lol although this is the only show I ever seen that did something like this.
But yeah that's the thing I would change. The plot amnesia. And btw... this show has no shipping. The show actually does have a Don/April/Casey love triangle. It wasn't made up by the fans. Shipping is stuff like fans making up stuff not in the show, like Raph/Karai and Mikey/April. |
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Okay, I finally have a serious answer that goes under "other". So far, I would change how season 3 started. I would've preferred it if we would've seen the other five adjusting to this life they have for a while with Leo still being out instead of starting after his coma. At least a couple of episodes.
At this point, everyone seems too well-adjusted. Why did Raph decide to be vigilant to watch over Leo (aside from its being in the comic)? How did Donnie cope or act since he blamed himself for Leo's condition? Is Casey's goofiness a front over worrying over his father and sister? How did April cope since bringing Irma to the lair jump-started everything? How did Mikey cope? Did he act the way he did at the end of the finale? With Raph trying to console and comfort him? Was he like this for a while before trying to be optimistic about everything again and quoting Splinter? This was something I was hoping to see after the season finale. After the heavy, then the lightheartedness of like A Foot too Big (still thought that episode was hilarious). I guess more emotional moments after a tragic situation or a heavy situation. |
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As for your "plot amnesia" term, thanks Coola Yagami! ;) It was the best term ("amnesia") to articulate what was occurring with those plotlines! :) |
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I chose the depiction of characters, lack of some, too much of others. There just isn't enough Raph for me. Too many times has he been sidelined for some reason or another, and too much focus on the other Turtles. Like I said, I feel April gets better story arcs, and has had more screen time in the second half of season 2 and already in the first two episodes of season 3. Enough already, it's supposed to be about the 4 brothers. Not just two of them, April, Casey, and then when they feel they are needed, then go ahead and give Mikey and Raph some character development, but then go back to concentrating on the new team, Don, Leo, April and Casey. Because that's what I feel it is.
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Shipping is stuff NOT in the show that fans made up. Like whoa, Raph called Karai hot so there must be a Raph/Karai thing. Or hey, April said more than two words to Leo, so there must be a Leo/April thing going on. Slash/Karai, Tiger Claw/Karai, Raph/random blonde woman we see running around the city sometimes, April/pizza boy. etc |
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Maybe I should have said, "The Crushes and Love Triangle(s)" then...? I thought "romance" was too strong of a term to use there since it implies a strong and intense affair between two people, and not one-sided like a crush. |
Some more plot amnesia. I hate the fact they seem to forget that Donnie has a blade in his staff. I really wish he'd use it more, or find ways to have him use it more.
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Kraang invasion plot (which for me, includes the mutant of the week type stuff). They're hilarious, imposing & well designed, a real threat, unique in personality, totally like them. I just see waaayyy too much of them, & it usually feels somewhat re-hashed, at that. The season finales especially. Fill up some of that Kraang time with more introspective "hanging out" episodes, so we can get to know each turtle a little more intimately, & maybe some turtle tot flashback episodes (there's a lot of turtle history we don't know! How'd they pick their masks & weapons? Training missions? etc). Or just continuously include more villains of another variety. Chinese vampires. Kung fu school on vacation. Mystics. Witch Doctors. Magicians from the east. Mirage had all kinds of funky human & otherworldly baddies you could take influence from or even reboot. Mobsters from the OT would be another awesome sect to go up against.
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I voted Other.
I would give Shredder's goons have a bit more background and character. We barely know anything about them beyond an extremely brief bio, and we don't see them enough for them anymore to develop character. They seemed to have a lot of it when in Season 1 when they were interacting with the Turtles regularly, but this seems to largely stagnate and degrade once they got into Season 2. a. Xever had a bit of personality. He wasn't a nice guy but was willing to put the rivalry on hold until they got out of Baxter's maze. He didn't like being a fish mutant, and longed to be human again so he could have his old life back. In Season 2 post-Wormquake, he's become a shallow version of his old self, only showing a very generic tough guy persona while being an unquestioning lackey of the Shredder. He also barely gets any lines anymore ( if he's even shown) where pre-Wormquake, he had a lot more. b.Bradford had a bit of personality too. He was a rich snob, probably was used to having things practically served to him on a silver platter, which didn't help much towards making him a nice guy. Once mutated he didn't really care for his mutant form, and pretty much blamed it for his repeated failings. Like Xever he wanted to be returned to normal but for different reasons i.e his mutant form was sucky for ninja stuff. Once he became Rahzar it looked like he would become a stronger and meaner version of his old self, somebody who could be reckoned with. Instead during and after Wormquake, he devolved into a largely nerfed, generic 'beast' character that shows little character other then being unflinchingly loyal to Shredder. Aside from one episode post-Wormquake (Baxter's Lonely Mutation) he's shone little of his own personality anymore. c. Tigerclaw, while being a recent addition, hasn't seemed to degrade to the degree of the first two. It might be that he hasn't been replaced (yet), but it could be that he has a way of being seemingly more versatile then the other two. He also even showed his concern to Shredder over Shredder's desire to align with the Kraang, which shows he isn't some guy who just blindly follows orders without question. However, we still don't know much about this guy, and him not attempting a coup on Shredder over the essentially suicidal pact still makes me think he needs a bit more given to him other then another mere follower. The Kraang aren't going to honor an agreement by someone they view as a mere insect, so heck, why is he even staying? |
I choose other because...
-Irma being a Kraang bot was very disappointing. -The Shellacne episode. -Mikey's extremely stupid moments and lack empathy moments. -The Pizza Face episode wasn't a dream. -Donnie as a car demon. -Looks like I will be adding something else from season 3 soon. -Raph's lack of compassion for humans. |
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There's not really anything I would change for the simple reason that nothing I would replace it with would make anything really better than what it is. Everything really does fit with what they've done.
But if I could change one thing, it would be April's backstory with the Kraang and just have her not to that extent. You can keep the senses, the powers and such, but as soon as they said "Kraang DNA" and "half alien"... OOH it made me hate Kraang Conspiracy so bad! :ohwell: |
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I've always found The Love Triangle becomes tedious for many fans far quicker than for the writers. However, it's clearly a popular and easy device for almost everything, and provides easy food for a hungry fan. I'm a mild critic of it in the series.
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The infamous Irma scene. We need more females in the show.
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Probably some consistancy to the Kraang or April's powers.
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Initially, this was a bit of a tough choice between the depiction of the characters and the shipping, but my biggest problem is with Donnie's depiction, and my biggest problem with Donnie's depiction is how he acts around April. Not to mention the other shippy things going on here.
The show would actually be watchable for me if the shipping was removed. Which is unfortunate, since I normally quite like it. But these writers just cannot do it. Leave that to the fandom, please. I wouldn't vote to improve it. Just take it out. Not that I wouldn't still have complaints, but at least I could find the show enjoyable on the whole. |
I don't really like the April/Kraang connection, but I voted Love Triangles because that is so much worse and crops up so frequently. It's completely ruining this version of Donnie for me, who I otherwise like. Overall I love the show, just wish they'd drop the romance, it was never needed.
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Definitely the plot amnesia for me. I think that's the one flaw this show has and I do hope they resolve it soon. I do like the change of scenery for season 3 though and can't wait to see what else happens at the farm. I'm definitely hoping for more character development as the Turtles heal.
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Character shipping/love triangle.
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The character was well designed, her sassyness was great and April needs someone from her life (besides Casey) that it's not mutated or robotized. |
Fewer incidental characters would be nice.
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I know it is a kid show, but I'd like it to be more mature, sometimes, with the way they handle the humor but also the characters. A deeper character "analysis" would be interesting.
As for the shipping: I don't mind the idea of Apritello (I don't care, TBH), but the way they go at it with the triangle and how it impacts Donnie's character isn't that good I'd like to see more interactions of Splinter with Turtles other than Leo, too. He needs more guidance because he's the leader, but the rest of the guys are still 16 year-old boys, they do need him too. |
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