Why did Mirage have so few mutants?
 

Not that I mind, but it's interesting how so many other versions loves to experiment with mutants, but Mirage kept it down.

Peter pretty much said he wanted to limit the amount of Mutants in the Mirage Universe to make the TMNT feel more special. It also gave them more of an isolation from the rest of the world. We got Aliens, superheroes, and satyr-sorcerers but like 6 mutants. (Not including the Mutato heads in which even Casey briefly became a mutant)

Two things:

1.) Every mutant including Bloodsucker is mutated from the Ooze, which was a basically toxic utrom trash accidently poured on animals. It wasn't anyone's intention to create mutants, so storyline-wise, it was more reasonable to go with other stuff.

2.) Mirage wasn't a promotional tool for Playmates.

^^^

Mirage wasn't in the action figure market.

Oh yeah, I somehow forgot about that second one. Although, I don't think IDW are Playmates' bitches and somehow that didn't stop them from creating a few mutants.

I ment that part about OT. The original purpose of the cartoon was (same thing with many other 80's and 90's shows) to promote the TMNT toyline of Playmates, and Playmates influenced Archie too.
IDW is different however, they're only taking what's worked before in TMNT and using it.

Btw, about the mutants in Mirage: There were only 7 of them, if you consider pure animal mutants, but there were also Radical, Complete Carnage and Shark-Worm-Shredder-whatever and those generic superheroes, and there were a lots of non-mutant anthropromorph animals, like Triceratons, Styracodons, that monkey shaman and more I can't recall. Usagi Miyamoto, Cudley and more characters are crossed over to TMNT too.
I think 4kids had less then Mirage.

I can just see a Playmates executive holding a gun to Ciro's head as he types away the scripts.

Besides the Turtles/Splinter, Mirage mutants were:

- Leatherhead
- Bloodsucker
- King Komodo (Image)

There were also characters who resembled mutants like Chote, but he was created by Savanti's magic.

There were also the mutant insects from "Wrong Turn", but they weren't anthropomorphic, similar to the 2k3 mutants.

Utroms were more responsible in Mirage, no accidents since the 80s!

All you're really doing is dressing down Mirage fans right now, you know that, right? I get that you're bitter towards 'em with your whole OT adoration thing going on, but what you're saying is unfair, biased, wrong...

Does the name Dale Evans McGillicutty (who is a mutant) ring a bell? How about the Justice Force, or Pai-Doth Noor? April the magic doodle baby?

What point are you trying to make, exactly?

Which characters are you talking about specifically?

A lot of the weird one-off characters from Tales probably. Like that Jewish golem, those cat creatures from the Leonardo 2-parter, etc.

Tales of the TMNT in general had a lot of weird animal or monster characters who weren't mutants but could have been.

And where have they showed up since Mirage?

That PKF is right in that Mirage has bad characters. Even some that showed up in the 2k3 show were bad, like the Justice Force and Cousin Sid.

I was never arguing that point, homie.

You always seem to suggest they are.

Ok... and at what point did any of those characters show up in a different cartoon or comicbook series, stink the issue/episode up only to be defended by elitists only stating that "they showed up in mirage, so they're cool."?

Never.

So it sounds to me like you're crying over nothing. Get over it and go watch a Fred Wolf dvd with your Panda Kahn toy.

Said by the one with the Panda Kahn name/avatar.


But seriously, why are you think that Mr. Braunze is useless? He was one of the main characters in Vol.2. and heavily influenced the storyline. He worked well there. Sure, you might not like the character, and he might be a Professor X ripoff or something, but that doesn't makes him redundant.

Those superhero knock-offs and Cousin Sid were present in 2k3.

On topic, here's my list of Mirage mutants:

* The TMNT and Splinter
* Leatherhead
* Terrorpin
* Bloodsucker
* Radical and Complete Carnage
* Dale Evans McGillicutty
* The giant Arthropods from "Wrong Turn"
* Shark-Worm Shredder

& nobody has ever liked them. So you are once again without a decent point.

As a kid, the mutants and mutations were one of the cool things about the show. Weird stuff that turns people into monsters? Awesome! It's like wanting to catch the shape shift scene from the Wolf Man, it's weird, neat, and a little scary, plus you get these crazy looking characters, and it's easy to imagine, like, hey what animal would you be mashed up with? And yes, it sold toys.

The Mirage comics started with an weird idea, but the mutatgen was more a plot device than an excuse to build more characters. They were into taking the comic whatever direction suited them. Space travel epic? Slow paced character study in Northhamption? Untouchables homage? Superhero Homage? It was experimental, what you expect in indy comics.

Which is the point, one was an independent comic geared toward mostly 14+ boys and males into geek culture, the other toward 8-12 year old boys into ninjas and monsters. Apples and oranges.

Dude, I criticized your choice of Panda Kahn (and mainly just Panda Kahn for being useless), because it was relevant to the discussion. Even if what I said had a ridiculing tone, it wasn't a personal attack.
You can't expect people being super-PC in a discussion, especially if you throw around thoughts like "yeah, that thing you like is useless" without any explanation.

Still here? :trolleye: