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Davetello 12-04-2014 03:26 AM

Is this forum actually that "rough"?
 
Time and again I've seen this forum described as 'rough' or 'volatile'. I have to say that I don't see it. It isn't exactly a utopia full of people being nice to one another, but there's nothing really insane going on here. The worst offenders (other than myself when I am provoked) are generally Cure and Peanut, but they're like kittens compared to the guys on forums I have frequented.

On the other site I use I see people use terms like "f-ggot", "******", "sand n!gger", "queer" etc. German posters are referred to as Nazis and German sports stars as "posterboys for the Aryan Brotherhood". Italians are called wogs. Now most of this is in jest but I still dislike it and it makes me more uncomfortable than anything on here.

The other evening a Portuguese guy told me to jump off a bridge because of an opinion I have on sport. And he meant it too.

Generalising somewhat, I'm putting it down to Europeans being more aggressive and open than Americans. I've noticed that most North Americans online are actually quite polite, at least the ones I have encountered. I mean most people here will do anything to avoid conflict. I like that and it's good, so this forum isn't as rough as suggested, in my view.

EDIT: perhaps the lack of political and religious talk makes this place calmer. But there's not much of that on the forum I use and it is still very volatile.

Candy Kappa 12-04-2014 03:34 AM

The 'Drome's reputation is highly exaggerated. But I think many don't read the forum rules about sections like the Video Game section, where they have different rules then the rest of the board. And there are a lot of people here that do speak from the liver and don't cuddle their opinions.

And since they where mentioned, honestly. Through my time on the forums I haven't seen anything that makes Cure or Peanut look like the people you'd expect from their reputation. But, then again. I did manage to make a newish member quit over a debate about My Little Pony...

Davetello 12-04-2014 03:39 AM

Yeah, people go way over the top. This place really isn't that bad at all for aggression.

Cure and Peanut were just examples, but they have done awful things.

Netkeeper 12-04-2014 05:05 AM

Yeah, it is pretty rough here. A few years ago, I never would have joined this place. I prefer much smaller, tighter-knit communities than large ones like this. Large communities are frequently under-staffed and it turns the place into anarchy, and I've just never been a fan of anarchy on the internet.

I like being able to talk politics and religion, honestly, but I'd never invite the discussion in a place with as big a member base as this. Also, it doesn't help that this forum actually has a lot of people fitting the neckbeardy stereotypes.

pandaderek 12-04-2014 05:54 AM

The internet is, always, gonna have problems with arrogance...people are raised one way and many feel comfortable maintaining themselves with arrogance, because they're not comfortable with any kind of in-your-face diversity, they lack the humility to accept their lower position in such a diverse world. Which is why I'm very invested in the arts, where people experience diversity with less arrogance because the diversity is more subtle. Like, how people accept parts of other culture through culinary arts, like eating Chinese food or how people learn to accept other cultures through art, like Anime.

But, humility needs to be expressed, both ways. We need to acknowledge that, with some, it takes time for them to decline in their arrogance and not just attack that person with personal attacks. Not everyone can grow at the same rate, some people need to be more invited into being accustomed to the community, while others can fit-right-in. Meaning, don't let the words that people speak out, in anger or arrogance, be taken seriously...that's more of a reflection of their background, on how they've been accustomed to communicating with others. Eventually, or hopefully, they become more accustomed to the community.

Basically, what I'm saying is that you don't treat people like criminals because they talk or act like one. That part of a person is a reflection of their environment (you treat the environment to change the qualities of talking and acting like a criminal), not the basic human qualities that are natural to us all, such as the feeling to being wanted, accepted, loved. If we treat those shared human qualities with equal respect as those who don't act like criminals, then, those qualities will reflect and overshadow the qualities that have manifested from their terrible environment.

Basically, I'm paraphrasing Patch Adams, in case, you think what I'm saying is bullsh!t.

Davetello 12-04-2014 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1387419)
Yeah, it is pretty rough here. A few years ago, I never would have joined this place. I prefer much smaller, tighter-knit communities than large ones like this. Large communities are frequently under-staffed and it turns the place into anarchy, and I've just never been a fan of anarchy on the internet.

I like being able to talk politics and religion, honestly, but I'd never invite the discussion in a place with as big a member base as this. Also, it doesn't help that this forum actually has a lot of people fitting the neckbeardy stereotypes.


Had to google 'neckbeardy'.

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Originally Posted by pandaderek (Post 1387428)
The internet is, always, gonna have problems with arrogance...people are raised one way and many feel comfortable maintaining themselves with arrogance, because they're not comfortable with any kind of in-your-face diversity, they lack the humility to accept their lower position in such a diverse world. Which is why I'm very invested in the arts, where people experience diversity with less arrogance because the diversity is more subtle. Like, how people accept parts of other culture through culinary arts, like eating Chinese food or how people learn to accept other cultures through art, like Anime.

But, humility needs to be expressed, both ways. We need to acknowledge that, with some, it takes time for them to decline in their arrogance and not just attack that person with personal attacks. Not everyone can grow at the same rate, some people need to be more invited into being accustomed to the community, while others can fit-right-in. Meaning, don't let the words that people speak out, in anger or arrogance, be taken seriously...that's more of a reflection of their background, on how they've been accustomed to communicating with others. Eventually, or hopefully, they become more accustomed to the community.

Basically, what I'm saying is that you don't treat people like criminals because they talk or act like one. That part of a person is a reflection of their environment (you treat the environment to change the qualities of talking and acting like a criminal), not the basic human qualities that are natural to us all, such as the feeling to being wanted, accepted, loved. If we treat those shared human qualities with equal respect as those who don't act like criminals, then, those qualities will reflect and overshadow the qualities that have manifested from their terrible environment.

Basically, I'm paraphrasing Patch Adams, in case, you think what I'm saying is bullsh!t.

Erudite. Your posts are always appreciated, Derek.

BubblyShell22 12-04-2014 09:19 AM

I don't think this place is THAT bad at all. Yeah, there are times where drama will hit, but that's to be expected on the Internet and when we have people who are passionate about certain things. Best thing to do is either steer clear of it or ignore it if possible.

Prowler 12-04-2014 12:38 PM

I like this place a lot. It's not by any means perfect, but never had any issues so far.

It's a shame we're not allowed to discuss politics and religion, though. You'd expect a message board with a lot of adults to act more civil and respectful in serious discussions like those.

CyberCubed 12-04-2014 12:46 PM

This forum is entirely tame. I honestly wonder how long some of you have been on the internet. On this forum it seems like people think disagreements are equal to "flaming" when its not at all.

There are other forums where people regularly insult each other (not to mention take shots at religion, nationality, and all that) and get away with it.

Besides some of you take things too personally. I've been on the internet since 1998, nothing phases me any more.

plastroncafe 12-04-2014 12:48 PM

Rough, no.
Unwelcoming? At times, yes.

Powder 12-04-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1387419)
Also, it doesn't help that this forum actually has a lot of people fitting the neckbeardy stereotypes.

The influx of Tumblr types is worse. "Neckbeard" types may get snippy over geek stuff but at least there's no social/political crybaby crap with 'em.

Peanut 12-04-2014 01:07 PM

Are you really starting this again? Checking out immediately.

snake 12-04-2014 01:45 PM

I don't think it's "rough" at all. When we get into politics/religion/belief systems, I think it devides most people here because they can't accept an opinion, so maybe it's better not to get into it.


Peanut and Cure are cool in my opinion. They're just really passionate about games.

Lethal Lullaby 12-04-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1387570)
I don't think it's "rough" at all. When we get into politics/religion/belief systems, I think it devides most people here because they can't accept an opinion, so maybe it's better not to get into it.


Peanut and Cure are cool in my opinion. They're just really passionate about games.

I agree. I like Peanut and Cure. Along with basically everyone else. This place can get out of hand, but it's not as bad as some forums.

Davetello 12-04-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1387540)
Are you really starting this again? Checking out immediately.

I wasn't having a go. I was just saying that you're examples of more unpredictable characters on here. You've done very questionable things but I even say that you're like kittens compared to other guys I have known.

Cure 12-04-2014 02:13 PM

I love kittens so I'm alright with that.

Netkeeper 12-04-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Davetello (Post 1387431)
Had to google 'neckbeardy'.

Generally age 30+ overweight white straight men that behave in the creepiest, most socially-inept of matters. CyberCubed is a textbook example. Misogynist fedora-wearing MRA types are another type that get lumped into that category but I think those people are their own monster.

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1387539)
The influx of Tumblr types is worse. "Neckbeard" types may get snippy over geek stuff but at least there's no social/political crybaby crap with 'em.

I disagree, if only because the Tumblr types we've got here aren't anywhere near the worst that site has to offer. Have we seen any transfat faekin with a preference for sproutself pronouns?

Davetello 12-04-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1387591)
Generally age 30+ overweight white straight men that behave in the creepiest, most socially-inept of matters. CyberCubed is a textbook example.


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

CyberCubed 12-04-2014 02:47 PM

Well thankfully I'm not overweight, so I don't fit that example. I'm so glad there were never any fat people in my family, it spared me from getting those genetics.

TheSkeletonMan939 12-04-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1387533)
This forum is entirely tame. I honestly wonder how long some of you have been on the internet. On this forum it seems like people think disagreements are equal to "flaming" when its not at all.

Exactly. People disagree and debate things incessantly, and that's the way a board like this should be. That's why I enjoy, to some extent, whiny members like CyberCubed. They spark debate and interesting discussion.

I think it's funny how people consider such disagreements to represent the 'Drome as a whole as "rough" or whatever. It's a forum, people. Wouldn't it be such a boring website if everyone got along happily forever? This place has a lot of great people, and it's too bad that people don't realize that just because we disagree about things all the time.

Case in point: I used to be a big Lego Bionicle fan, so I also frequent a Bionicle board called BZPower. Generally, on that board you're always expected to be a very positive person who would never, ever have a mean idea towards the franchise or anything related to it (it's at heart a forum for kids, so that makes sense, I supposed). Well, I disagreed with someone one day and was told how "caustic" I was by another member. Well, actually, he was thanking me because because I made one "caustic" post and apparently "toned it down" in my later posts (I really hadn't; I just wasn't being so blatant about my less-than-popular opinion). I find that place to be very boring, since all the threads are essentially just small talk with very, very little solid debate about anything.

Powder 12-04-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1387591)
I disagree, if only because the Tumblr types we've got here aren't anywhere near the worst that site has to offer. Have we seen any transfat faekin with a preference for sproutself pronouns?

"It could be worse" doesn't say much, really. But yeah we have, kinda, Irmafan comes to mind. :tlol:

Candy Kappa 12-04-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1387591)
Have we seen any transfat faekin with a preference for sproutself pronouns?

Shh.... Talking about them might summon the bunbuns :lol:

pennydreadful 12-04-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1387539)
The influx of Tumblr types is worse. "Neckbeard" types may get snippy over geek stuff but at least there's no social/political crybaby crap with 'em.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/2292b63e...foijo2_400.gif

Just kidding, you know you and me are cool. :trazz:

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1387591)
I disagree, if only because the Tumblr types we've got here aren't anywhere near the worst that site has to offer. Have we seen any transfat faekin with a preference for sproutself pronouns?

:lol::lol::lol: Oh Net, I love you.


Different fanspaces online have different dynamics; I will say that the atmosphere here is vastly different than fanspaces which are female-dominated. Interpret that how you will. The forum has some great people, but by the same token, we also need to acknowledge that there is a reason that others within the fandom (as well as some official TMNT staff members) tend to steer clear/don't often come here. I have not always heard this place spoken of favorably, put it that way.

Not intended as an attack on anyone or an attack on the forums - if I didn't care about this place and the people in it, I wouldn't spend so much time here... it's just my two cents.

Mandy Chan 12-04-2014 05:03 PM

Does not matter where you go on the net you'll always find the mean and horrid ones. This place is really soft compared to other places.. For example... Tumblr.. Its full of mean people and haters.

XERO 12-04-2014 06:07 PM

I've been here for over a decade. You try stick around that long and go through all the ridiculousness that's happened here over the years. It changes you.

Best times ever, back then.

snake 12-04-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1387617)
Exactly. People disagree and debate things incessantly, and that's the way a board like this should be. That's why I enjoy, to some extent, whiny members like CyberCubed. They spark debate and interesting discussion.

I think it's funny how people consider such disagreements to represent the 'Drome as a whole as "rough" or whatever. It's a forum, people. Wouldn't it be such a boring website if everyone got along happily forever? This place has a lot of great people, and it's too bad that people don't realize that just because we disagree about things all the time.

Case in point: I used to be a big Lego Bionicle fan, so I also frequent a Bionicle board called BZPower. Generally, on that board you're always expected to be a very positive person who would never, ever have a mean idea towards the franchise or anything related to it (it's at heart a forum for kids, so that makes sense, I supposed). Well, I disagreed with someone one day and was told how "caustic" I was by another member. Well, actually, he was thanking me because because I made one "caustic" post and apparently "toned it down" in my later posts (I really hadn't; I just wasn't being so blatant about my less-than-popular opinion). I find that place to be very boring, since all the threads are essentially just small talk with very, very little solid debate about anything.

Yup. Debating is part of conversation and it should be encouraged.


I'm tempted to send Cubed a friend request, I mean, he makes a lot of.....interesting topics.

Gunpowder 12-04-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandy Chan (Post 1387728)
Does not matter where you go on the net you'll always find the mean and horrid ones. This place is really soft compared to other places.. For example... Tumblr.. Its full of mean people and haters.

The truth. You'll come across unfriendly people no matter where you go. Something I've learned to live with.

pennydreadful 12-04-2014 07:48 PM

There are worse places than this - but there are also places where some of the behavior that can occur here wouldn't fly for a second elsewhere. Mixed bag, I guess.

Like you said, Mandy - there are douchebags wherever you go (though I personally haven't had problems on Tumblr thus far, I know there are some raving knobheads lurking out there - it's certainly not a utopia where everyone sits around and eats gluten-free cookies while discussing things peacefully. :lol: )

Netkeeper 12-04-2014 07:49 PM

Gluten-free cookies, Penny? Really?

Ravenshell 12-04-2014 08:05 PM

I've seen better... I can't say I've seen worse because I'm really picky about the fandoms I join, and generally only dedicate myself to one at a time. The Drome made the cut. ;)

Peanut 12-04-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XERO (Post 1387771)
I've been here for over a decade. You try stick around that long and go through all the ridiculousness that's happened here over the years. It changes you.

Best times ever, back then.

You got that sh*t right, guy.

Leo656 12-04-2014 10:21 PM

This place is a ball pit. There's a couple snakes hanging out near the bottom in the dark and cool spots, but that still leaves a lot of Fun Room. And nobody ever gets bit THAT bad.

I used to go on the lordsofpain.net wrestling boards all the time in like 2000-2002, and I swear that place is responsible for at least eight kidnappings and twenty-four homicides. People there HATE each other. I don't even go near that f*cking place anymore.

Jester 12-04-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1387939)
Physical 100%

You always know you'll have it. You get bonus material AND nice collector items depending on the set.

Quality is basically the same with stream vs DVD and complaining over having to switch discs is absurd. How ridiculously lazy can someone be?

Weird, why is the forum sending posts to the wrong thread?

Peanut 12-04-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1387944)
Weird, why is the forum sending posts to the wrong thread?

Yeah, this is nuts! The database has been having errors all night, but I've never seen something like this before.

Leo656 12-04-2014 10:27 PM

The board is definitely weird tonight.

At one point, I clicked to Edit one of my Posts, and in the text box was something that was COMPLETELY someone else's post. I hit Refresh and it was my post again, but still... the board is acting crazy for some reason.

I keep seeing posts disappear and reappear, maybe they're being posted in the wrong place and then somehow fixing itself?

pennydreadful 12-04-2014 11:08 PM

What the actual f*ck... my reply to Net about cookies earlier has completely disappeared.

GET THESE GREMLINS OUT OF THE BOARD. Where's the Hulkster? He'd have this fixed in an instant!

snake 12-04-2014 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1387998)
What the actual f*ck... my reply to Net about cookies earlier has completely disappeared.

GET THESE GREMLINS OUT OF THE BOARD. Where's the Hulkster? He'd have this fixed in an instant!

http://www.g33k-e.com/wp-content/upl...an-America.jpg


RIIIIIIIIGHT HERE BROTHER!

Electric 12-04-2014 11:23 PM

i wouldnt call this place "rough". opinionated? hell yeah.and debates spark up every once in awhile that get heated, but i never think theyre too bad.

but what do i know, this is the first and only online forum ive been a part of

Netkeeper 12-05-2014 12:07 AM

Yeah, see, I've been to dozens [possibly over a hundred?] forums and the vast majority of them were much calmer than this. As I've stated, I prefer smaller, tighter-knit communities -- the trolls don't get in as easily and when they do, the amount of the damage they do is minimal, and generally most of the memberbase shares similar tastes and opinions. It's much more comfortable, because any subject tends to be fair game, and you feel like you're among like-minded people.

Not to say a community with a variety of perspectives is undesirable. But it can sometimes be overwhelming for someone like me.

shuriken 12-05-2014 09:30 AM

HAHA no.
Everybody is extremely opinionated but no one here is calling anyone a "motherf***ing waste of space or c***sucking son___b***h...." ect and so forth.
Aside from the occasional sheeps and elitist comments it's ok.
We're not even a tenth as terrible as some youtube commentors. :lol:


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