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Redeemer 12-17-2014 08:18 PM

Cowards.....
 
Who the hell threatens to blow up a movie theater?????http://deadline.com/2014/12/sony-scr...ew-1201328639/

its a sad day when people bow to terrorist and ideological cowards.

Katie 12-17-2014 08:39 PM

I'm disappointed. They should release the movie.

WTF is North Korea go a do anyway? They don't have any resources that can reach us. Is the terror they planned to rain down gonna come from their chubby little leader God? He can barely walk. How's he gonna rain terror on anyone, much less way over here in the US.

Besides, the movie is supposed to be pretty bad. Why get you panties in a bunch over a dumb movie.

Dirty Blond 12-17-2014 08:58 PM

What do you expect when Hollywood incites the DPRK with war propaganda? Sony picked a fight and got what they deserved.

Powder 12-17-2014 09:02 PM

I agree with DB.

B-Man 12-17-2014 09:06 PM

I can see why they pulled the movie. Can you imagine if they got these blatant threats, Sony said f*ck it, released the movie & then the worst happened? At the end of the day, it's just a movie. Not worth rolling the dice when it comes to legit lunatics. As for the movie... it doesn't even look that funny. I love these guys but their humour is officially predictable (d*ck jokes/celebrity jokes guaranteed to age horribly/hip-hop montages/bromance).

oldmanwinters 12-17-2014 09:14 PM

The egg's on Sony's face in more ways than one. Make a film about killing another nation's leader, and now we see that they're the emperor with no clothes. If there's anything good that came out of this scandal, however, it's that the public at least got a peak into lots of private studio discussions about their various franchises like Spider-man, etc.

Also... there's another high profile film that is now canned:
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/12/1...movie-dropped/

Prowler 12-17-2014 09:41 PM

The authorities have to take any sort of bomb or terrorist threat seriously, no matter how fake it might sound. Imagine if they had really blown up the theater.

IndigoErth 12-17-2014 09:41 PM

IMO... If they think it's in the best interest to pull it from theaters because they find it more important to protect potential movie goers (or the existence of theaters to show their movies beyond that one...), ok, so be it. If it's out of thought for people over profit, then good on them.

BUT instead of entirely giving in to whoever has caused it in the first place - I suggest they release it straight to digital cable for rent/own. Lets see whoever it is try to stop that. https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/...08/2261453.gif

pennydreadful 12-17-2014 09:50 PM

I think this is a little too close to political discussion and is gonna end up getting canned.

Redeemer 12-17-2014 09:51 PM

I understand why the movie was pulled, but it simply agitates me that we stand by and do absolutely nothing while North Korea threatens to attack us.
Its ridiculous, I must admit I was actually going to go see this movie...... :lol:
I watch anything Seth Rogan sense watching "This is the end" :lol:

snake 12-17-2014 10:37 PM

Does anyone think they were going to do anything? It was a scare tactic. Those emails revealed a lot of things about Sony and I'm glad they were released though.

TigerClaw 12-17-2014 10:42 PM

The Alamo Drafthouse in Dallas won't be showing the Interview, Instead. They will show Team America in its place.
http://www.slashfilm.com/alamo-draft...the-interview/

plastroncafe 12-17-2014 11:41 PM

Well you know, it is called Terrorism for a reason.
I'm just sitting here being pretty tickled that Seth Rogan and James Franco have caused an international incident. Because...no matter where you stand on how things are going, that's pretty damn funny.

XERO 12-17-2014 11:59 PM

Freaks and Geeks for life.

Wildcat 12-18-2014 02:28 AM

I'm with the others...you must take any terror threat serious. So far it's a legitimate situation. Not just some hacker.

It's not about giving in its just being sensible. You gonna willingly walk into a building with a bomb threat?

The movie will get released on DVD/BR and Digital after things calm down anyway.

I just wonder if the hack was due to the movie or it was a convenient excuse for a threat.

Katie 12-18-2014 06:32 AM

The problem I have with it is that we have basically wimped out. The "terrorists" made a threat, that by all accounts is one they cannot back up, and they actually got their way.

Well that's awesome. They did what we wanted. Hey how about I don't like what the New York Times printed yesterday. Let's say anyone who reads the times is in danger of "terrorism" and get our way again.

Sheesh. I'm all for taking credible threats seriously, but the DPRK does not have any credible threat to the U.S. this is a country that runs produced films of their bombing runs that destroyed Washington DC to prove to their population how superior they are. Well now they have a real win to show their people.

It was an idiotic decision.

BubblyShell22 12-18-2014 09:50 AM

I'm glad they canned the movie because you honestly don't know if the threat was real or not. To me, if someone were to threaten my mother and say that they were going to kill her if I didn't do such and such a thing, you can bet I'd do whatever I could to keep my mom alive. Same goes with this situation. Who's to say NK doesn't have resources to carry out their threats? I'm sure they do, and good on Sony for making the smart decision.

Leo656 12-18-2014 10:21 AM

I see it Katie's way. I get it, but the studio is in a tough, almost no-win situation. If they let it run, and something DID happen, then they're assh*les for not just caving in in the interest of safety. I get that.

But this does present a very slippery slope. What if, say, a studio wants to do a movie about Martin Luther King, Jr. and some KKK affiliate or neo-Nazi organization sends a letter promising to shoot the theater up or whatever? Or a movie about women's abortion rights, and some anti-abortion person or person(s) makes a threat?

Hell, this may sound trite, but what if even some disgruntled TMNT fan who hated the last movie makes a call or sends a letter and says they're going to spread Anthrax in the theater or whatever when the next one comes out because they're not a fan of it? Again, that's just to make a point. Anybody can threaten to do literally anything, anytime, for any reason, and they can potentially do it. "Potentially".

So what are we supposed to do? Not make any movies that might "incite" people? What about that jackass who shot up the theater when the last Batman movie came out? Guy did that for no goddamn reason at all and he didn't even have the "courtesy" to make threats first.

I'm at a loss. Like I said, it's a no-win situation. This way, they're "cowards", if they didn't relent and something did happen, they'd be accused of putting profits over people's lives and not taking threats seriously. I guess, in the long run, they can just put the dumb movie out on DVD etc. anyway, but "oooooh, what if someone says they're gonna blow up every FYE and Redbox? What if they hack NetFlix?! WHAT IF, YOU GUYS?!"

I'unno. It doesn't look funny and the entire thing is probably pointless. They *probably* shouldn't have made it, but if it wasn't this, it'd be something else eventually. So... other than outlawing all public gatherings and making every type of entertainment illegal on "moral and ethical" grounds... I don't know.

turtlefanforever 12-18-2014 10:46 AM

it's just wrong
 
If North Korea made a movie about killing our president there would be an all out war. They shouldn't have made the movie. It doesn't even look good. They'll probably end up airing it anyway but it was wrong to make the movie.

TigerClaw 12-18-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1394263)
If North Korea made a movie about killing our president there would be an all out war. They shouldn't have made the movie. It doesn't even look good. They'll probably end up airing it anyway but it was wrong to make the movie.

Whats gonna end up happening, Movie studios will be more careful what they greenlight, They don't want something that becomes too controversial and that could cause some ramifications.

The Stryker 12-18-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1394263)
If North Korea made a movie about killing our president there would be an all out war

They did that.

slashpieturtlemix 12-18-2014 12:25 PM

I think it is sony's fault for even going along with a movie about that theme. Now I will still see it when its released on dvd but still. Sony is only losing money on the releasing in theatres. They spent to much money to make it to not release it on dvd.

Leo656 12-18-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1394274)
Whats gonna end up happening, Movie studios will be more careful what they greenlight, They don't want something that becomes too controversial and that could cause some ramifications.

Again, though, people can get mad enough to commit an act of terrorism for ANY reason or NO reason. "Too controversial"? Who even decides that? Are we advocating censorship in the name of "public safety" now? Because I personally am of the opinion that people should have the freedom to make movies or songs or poems or books or anything else they want, about anything they want, and if people enjoy it they can partake and if they don't they can avoid it and go do something else if it "offends" them. If someone gets so pissed off over a piece of fiction that they're ready to kill someone, THEY are the problem, not the work in question. Nobody needs to be "careful", they need to act like f*cking human beings.

"Shhh... Be Quiet, You Might Piss Somebody Off..." - Avenged Sevenfold, "Critical Acclaim"

TigerClaw 12-18-2014 02:34 PM

Looks like Paramount has canceled Alamo Drafthouse's screening of Team America, that was gonna replace The Interview.
http://deadline.com/2014/12/paramoun...ca-1201329597/

mexichrist83 12-18-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1394133)
The Alamo Drafthouse in Dallas won't be showing the Interview, Instead. They will show Team America in its place.
http://www.slashfilm.com/alamo-draft...the-interview/

The downward spiral has already begun. "The Interview" is not the only movie that has been removed from theaters. "Team America: World Police" screenings have now been cancelled.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...theater-759277

TigerClaw 12-18-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollowbones83 (Post 1394387)
The downward spiral has already begun. "The Interview" is not the only movie that has been removed from theaters. "Team America: World Police" screenings have now been cancelled.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...theater-759277

Look up, I already posted that.

mexichrist83 12-18-2014 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1394388)
Look up, I already posted that.

Ah. Must have been posted while I was in the process of posting about it heh

TheCanadiandrome 12-18-2014 02:47 PM

"Team America: World Police"? wow that makes me laugh :lol:

Leo656 12-18-2014 02:51 PM

What's so offensive about puppets f*cking anyway?

Other than scat. Scat's gross.

TheCanadiandrome 12-18-2014 03:09 PM

someone would find offense somewhere dude. hell just about anything Matt and Trey come up with someone finds offense with

slashpieturtlemix 12-18-2014 03:25 PM

Wow. Sony pictures is now a sarlacc when it comes to my respect lol they cave and cave and cave and cave

Leo656 12-18-2014 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome (Post 1394410)
someone would find offense somewhere dude. hell just about anything Matt and Trey come up with someone finds offense with


You're tellin' me! I get offended half the time watching South Park when I have to sit through entire episodes that are just stuff they came up with to make each other laugh when they were high and nothing at all funny. I'm surprised "Cocaine" doesn't get a writer's credit on that f*cking show.

Still has its moments, but holy sh*t, it's awful sometimes.

turtlefanforever 12-18-2014 03:35 PM

hmm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 1394292)
They did that.

did they? was it actually NK that made it? cause ik a few years back a movie was released hear about NK taking over the whitehouse.

TheCanadiandrome 12-18-2014 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1394424)
You're tellin' me! I get offended half the time watching South Park when I have to sit through entire episodes that are just stuff they came up with to make each other laugh when they were high and nothing at all funny. I'm surprised "Cocaine" doesn't get a writer's credit on that f*cking show.

Still has its moments, but holy sh*t, it's awful sometimes.

yeah i stopped watching years ago :lol:

BubblyShell22 12-18-2014 04:28 PM

I still watch South Park and still find it funny at times. That one about Stan's dad being Lorde cracked me up.

But I do see the point about not caving, but it's a slippery slope as Leo said. If they showed the movie anyway and something did happen then they'd be blamed for something happening even if it was NK's fault. So, yeah, a no-win situation here, but it's a shame by the same token.

TigerClaw 12-18-2014 04:32 PM

Just came across this post, Though its from yesterday, But a film studio called, New Regency, Cancels Gore Verbinski’s Pyongyang, It was based on a Graphic Novel, And the story took place in North Korea too.
http://collider.com/pyongyang-movie-...rell-canceled/

BubblyShell22 12-18-2014 04:52 PM

Wow. They really ARE taking this seriously. My concern is more about the hacking and how they should really crack down on that. If they can hack into a movie studio, they can hack into anything, and that's scary. Then again, the Russians are good for this, too.

Katie 12-18-2014 05:48 PM

I don't get even taking them seriously. The DPRK is always threatening to unleash hell over little bitty stuff. South Korea puts up Christmas lights that are visible from inside the north. They threaten all out war if the lights aren't removed. South Korea does nothing and ignores them. Nothing happens.

That's how it works with them. All bluster and no substance. Because they can't do anything.

You wanna know what likely would have happened if the movie was released? The DPRK government would have whined and complained and at most, the hackers would have been killed for not doing a good enough job.

But you know. Sony took the bait so North Korea won.

Refractive Reflections 12-18-2014 06:37 PM

The reason this threat was taken seriously compared to other past threats and taunts from the DPRK was because of the rampant computer hacking against Sony. I'm assuming that these huge corporations typically have advanced computer security systems, and with this unprecedented attack against American business, it adds more weight as to why American companies and the U.S. government are taking the threats more seriously. As unlikely as the threats may be against movie-goers, after all of the recent lone gunman/bomber massacres this nation experienced after the past 3 years or so, which Sony executive is going to be comfortable in taking that risk when these unprecedented cyberattacks have "raised the stakes", so to speak? It's a slippery slope of reasoning, but which company wants to place themselves in a situation with the potential for enormous liability?

No company wants something similar to 2012's Aurora movie theater shooting. So it is what it is, in the climate of today's culture.

I don't know why so many people are "surprised" or "lost respect" for Sony's actions; for most businesses, their advocacy for "freedom of expression" ends when the financial damage begins (or at least the potential for massive financial loss). Just take a look at how compliant entertainment companies are in heavily editing/censoring their products when they are exported to more stringent countries.

I'm not saying people don't have the right to say/express what they want to, but it reveals how committed someone (a person, organization, or business) is to a project/goal/belief when the repercussions in pursing it, are not as minimally detrimental as initially thought.

Redeemer 12-18-2014 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1394263)
If North Korea made a movie about killing our president there would be an all out war. They shouldn't have made the movie. It doesn't even look good. They'll probably end up airing it anyway but it was wrong to make the movie.

:lol: I am sorry but I doubt it. I bet there are movies out there about our leaders being killed off or mocking our nation.


OH AND BY THE WAY PEOPLE ARE MISUNDERSTANDING ME. WHEN I SAY COWARD I AM TALKING ABOUT ABOUT N.KOREA BEING COWARDS. YOU HAVE TO BE A COWARD TO THREATEN TO ATTACK INNOCENT CIVILIANS!!!!!!
I AM NOT CALLING SONY OR THEATERS GOERS BEING COWARDS THEIR DECISION WAS VERY SENSIBLE.


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