Movie 3
 

General discussion, like it or don't.

It's better than Secret of the Ooze, so it's not that bad imo.

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Got that right, even though little kids would like the corny nature of the second one.

I've always liked it. And I still do, in spite of its problems.

Have you been following the in-progress fan-translation of its Japanese manga adaptation?
http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/?cat=31

It's nowhere near as poor as it's made out to be. It's not great but it's okay - I honestly think the laughable costumes are a big part of why it is seen as a terrible film. The plot - while generic - is okay and executed fairly well. Raph and Mikey's relationships with the human characters are also lovely. The movie is still better than the new film (you're free, worms).

Me too, and no, but thanks!

Yeah, I do agree with you. But if you wear th TMNT costume at like a birthday party or event, it would get a lot of good attention!

This movie makes me want to go to Feudal Japan.

That will totally be fun!

I'm not saying that TMNT costumes are automatically poor. The costumes for the first film and especially SotO were excellent. But the ones for the third film were terrible.

I would guess it's the studio's fault, for rushing the film into production at the time.

http://cinemassacre.com/2007/01/25/tmnt-part-1/

I agree with this guy 100%

its not the best of the original 3 but it has its charm..i enjoy it

I stand by this statement:

If TMNT III's costumes had been done by Henson, it wouldn't get half the hate it gets.

The costumes are the biggest reason why I don't like it. It's a pretty okay-ish movie if you look past that.

I second that!

TMNT III wasn't the absolute best movie, but it wasn't the absolute worst movie either. I was just happy to hear Corey Feldman and see Elias Koteas again.

Yeah, the costumes are kinda bleh... Too different from before, too identical with each other, and the spots are far too uniform and not subtle at all. The samurai gear helps, I prefer those portions. I like some of the Turtles' interactions with each other and other people. Esp Raph and the little boy.

YES. ^ Absolutely this. I also loved Mikey's side-story. (Okay, I'm a sucker for the sweetheart, so sue me!) And the subtle hints at some sort of connection between the turtles and the past.

Koteas is really good in it. Only thing I can outright praise.

Watching 3, you can feel the movie franchise dying right infront of you. The original was so down-to-earth, gritty & as believable as possible, and then on movie 3 they introduced TIME TRAVEL. Felt like they were already out of ideas. I don't feel it deserves to sit next to the first two. The step down in quality is insane. The costumes were pathetic but even if they had Henson's gear, it still would've felt like jumping the shark. Guilty pleasure at best.

Have you read the Mirage books? Time Travel is almost a constant in the TMNT.

Of course. I'm talking about time travel in relation to the first two movies. They don't lend themselves to the Back To The Future-vibe of 3, part of why it sticks out like a sore thumb.

I don't think it stands out at all. I mean, we're talking about films where present day armor clad ninja masters serve the role of foster parents to teenage punk rockers, who in exchange for a place to sleep at night, steal radioactive waste to create monsters to fight other monsters... Time travel isn't so outta left field in comparison.

see the time travel doesnt bug me as much...it was kinda the it thing at the time

Surprisingly Yes I like it and I only watched it last year after putting it off for so many years.

I didn't think the story was that bad and I Know Baaaaad :twink: It had some genuinely nice tender moments in it, good fight scenes, Elias Koteas playing 2 roles was a nice touch even if his Casey hair was fake and it even brought up the reality of being outcasts. I also agree with some other users that if it had the Henson Costumes it probably would get more props than it does now.

Out of the 6 Movies, it ranks number 4 for me just bellow The Secret of The Ooze which is only at number 3 mostly for Nostalgia and better costumes. TMNT is number 5, Turtles Forever number 2 and the 1990 Movie is number 1.

It's at #2 for me, right behind the original. TMNT is third, SotO is fourth, and 2014 is right behind that. turtles Forever is my least favorite, TBH. I just felt it went over-the-top with the OT turtles, and suffered because of it.

I like to expand the silly "Casey?" implication to crazy levels.

What I mean is April seems to see a family resemblance between Whit and Casey. I always assume that was the case. That Whit is Casey's ancestor, and that Mitsu, Grandfather and Yoshi are Hamatos and that Norinaga and Kenshin are Sakis. Is it very "fate-y"? Sure (which is kinda ironic, since I HATE that in most recent superhero fair), but it makes it feel like it is connected to the prequels.

Pretty cool theory Jester. I think you cleared the air up on my side. Nice way to see the third movie dude. I like.

i remember when someone tried to tell me Yoshi was "Yoshi" not a decendent


and that leo Saved his "Granpa"

That's crazy....

I do see Yoshi as the namesake of Hamato Yoshi though. :P

I've always enjoyed the third movie; I think it gets more flak than it deserves. Sure, it's silly and corny at times, but it's still an enjoyable watch and its heart is in the right place.

I think the worst of it is that it's kind of flat and boring. You don't buy that These Guys are any threat to the Turtles in any way, for starters, and as for the Turtles, their "quest" kind of doesn't go anywhere in any exciting way, or even a way that makes sense.

"We need to find Mikey!"
"Oh, he's over there."
"YES! We found Mikey!"

.....And then....

"We need to find the scepter!"
"We can't! Let's just build another one!"
"Why?"
"Because the movie still has another 45 minutes to go and we need artificial conflict!"
"We made another one and I broke it."
"We STILL need to find the scepter!"
"Oh, is that all you need? I have it. Here ya go."

...And in between, fight scenes happen for various reasons. :lol: It's like they had a decent premise for a half-hour cartoon but NO idea how to drag it into a 90-minute film, and there's all this stuff going on that is blatantly just to make the movie longer, or create fake drama/conflict. Like the guys debating whether or not to say, "Screw Splinter and those Nameless Extras back home, let's stay here because people like us" thing they crammed in at the very very end. Because.... because Mikey wanted to get his freak on? :lol: You almost left her real boyfriend stranded in the "future", buddy, I kinda don't think she'd be into you. :lol: Just a lot of stuff happening JUST because, "we need to drag this out."

That and it looked crummy. For as lousy as the costumes looked, showing them in broad daylight for most of the movie was SUCH a poor decision. I mean, it's not like the suits in the first movie were a TON better... and that's why that movie is shot so dark. It looks better because they took care to hide the flaws, although the suits were better but not dramatically so. it was just shot more conservatively. By the third it was just "Eh, kids don't know/care how it looks."

It's got its charm, though. There's a lot of things that put it ahead of the second one. Neither one belongs in the same film universe as the first one, though. They're both okay kids' movies but really terrible follow-ups to the first.

Oroku's maybe?

Better than no fighting scene at all *looks at tmnt 2 in disgust*

Actually it'd be Orokus. The apostrophe indicates a possessive noun...not a plural.

Lol, you win.

This is precisely my personal order. :D

If only they had actually done a true retelling of the "Masks" storyline from Mirage Volume 1, it could have been awesome. Chote, Savanti Romero, Renet... ah well, what might have been.

I have the same opinion as most which is that the costumes let the movie down. The body part of the costume looks ok but the faces just don't look right, say nothing for Splinter. I watched the third one recently and noticed that out of the three live-action movies it's the most epic. it's just a shame the script isn't better. As soon as you take the Turtles out of New York it stops being as much fun.

One last thing I noticed is that Elias Koteas underplays the role of Whit so much his character doesn't stand out enough and we don't learn enough about him as a result.

I always thought the same thing. I especially like the interactions between Raph and Yoshi, and how it almost seems to tie into what Splinter told him in the first one. As if things are coming full-circle in some way. That, and it's implied they used the scepter more than once, if that legend and scroll are to be believed.

ironically the comic that was based off of the movie fixed alot of the problems that was in the film.