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grizzlyaddams 01-08-2015 06:33 PM

Nick TMNT Time Slot Change
 
Up until now Nick TMNT has aired on Friday prime-time at 8pm. This seemed like a good time to me although it may have conflicted with parents prime-time viewing, but Friday night was always family TV time when I was young.

Now that Season 3 is finally coming back on I see that the new episodes 7 and 8 are set to air on Sunday 1/11 and 1/18 at 11am. I have kids and it doesn't seem to me like they spend a lot of Sunday mornings watching TV.

Is anyone else aware of this shift in schedule? Do you think it's a good idea or have any idea/official reason why?

Sabacooza 01-08-2015 06:37 PM

Yes, I'm aware of this and Nick is terrible with the scheduling. I'm not even going to attempt to figure out why they do what they do. It makes absolutely no sense. I'm surprised anyone watches this show at all what with the casual person not even knowing when it's on half the time. Whoever schedules this show should be fired.

Airing it Saturday would probably be better. I don't know

NinjaPug 01-08-2015 06:40 PM

This isn't the first time change or the first time new episodes have aired on Sunday mornings.

grizzlyaddams 01-08-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1403857)
This isn't the first time change or the first time new episodes have aired on Sunday mornings.

Ok, thanks for the info. Do you think it will affect the ratings? I think Nick has a good thing going. I'm a big fan of the show. I'd hate to see a poor decision result in diminished interest.

oldmanwinters 01-08-2015 07:02 PM

I think the middle of Season 2 aired on Sunday late mornings. Strange, it seems like it's been a long time since a new TMNT episode premiered (or was even rerun) on the traditional Saturday morning spot.

NinjaPug 01-08-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by grizzlyaddams (Post 1403865)
Ok, thanks for the info. Do you think it will affect the ratings? I think Nick has a good thing going. I'm a big fan of the show. I'd hate to see a poor decision result in diminished interest.

I would have to go back and check the ratings thread but I'm pretty sure the ratings on Sunday mornings were better than the Friday night airings. In fact, some weeks they would air a new episode on Friday night with a repeat airing the following Sunday morning and the Sunday airing had higher ratings.

Powder 01-08-2015 07:23 PM

They did Sunday morning shows for a while last year. If it wasn't a good move, they wouldn't do it.

IndigoErth 01-08-2015 07:24 PM

Yes, although it's technically a return to their former day and time. (Although if it's on the weekends again I still miss it being on Saturdays with the Sunday repeat if I missed the first airing.)

Jephael 01-08-2015 09:06 PM

At the next convention somebody really needs to ask why TMNT of all shows doesn't premiere on Saturday mornings.

IndigoErth 01-08-2015 11:11 PM

Are kids just not watching tv on Saturday mornings any more? It's funny that with the era of Saturday morning cartoons supposedly having ended in October - I assume they just mean the basic channels - you would think it might be a prime spot for those like Nick to premier new episodes rather than repeats of other stuff.

I mean, when it comes down to a choice of watching a repeat of something for the 100th time on another channel or "oh look, TMNT is showing a new one!," if that has no pull anymore... wow. (I don't mean the Turtles aren't a draw, but the draw, or lack of, of something new.)

Autbot_Benz 01-08-2015 11:33 PM

I am kind of glad Turtles went back to Sunday's since Constantine is now in the 8pm time slot I wouldn't want to choose between the two.

BubblyShell22 01-09-2015 03:43 PM

I'm fine with the change since Glee is now on Fridays and since it's the final season, I really want to support the show I've been watching since it first aired for the final season. If TMNT was to go back to Fridays before Glee was over, I'd just watch Glee and the heck with it. I'd just watch TMNT on Sunday if they re-aired it. So I'm glad for the change as of now, but I do agree that they really need to be better at scheduling it and keeping it at a certain time.

Donatello19 01-09-2015 07:20 PM

I liked it when they showed new episodes on Friday nights...they only really do that for the double length episodes now, though...

pannoni1 01-11-2015 06:24 AM

It shouldn't be too bad since Sundays tend to be quieter, especially outside of holiday weekends/summer. If someone needs to attend a religious service, they can usually pick a time that doesn't interfere with the show. The show was doing ok during the last stint on Sunday mornings. The big question of course is if the show can improve since I feel that the novelty of the Nick era may be starting to wear off now that we're three years in, though its done a pretty good job at promoting a nice diversity of products keeping the awareness factor in. I feel that Friday nights should be reserved for special episodes like finales or season premieres, though many studies show that Friday nights are less lucrative due to new movie releases and going out.

pingclang 01-11-2015 06:38 AM

This really sucks for me considering every Sunday my church has service at the time Turtles will be on. Oh well. Really miss it being on Saturday morning.

evan2000 01-11-2015 06:56 AM

Due to the time zone I'm in, airing on Sunday means I'll only be able to watch it on Monday, which is a bummer as my "weekend mood" has already worn off. I always prefer it to be aired as early as possible so I have the whole weekend to enjoy it over (and more time to make gifs :P)

Vicky82 01-11-2015 07:06 AM

I didn't like it when it was on 8pm US time due to time zone difference as it was on 1am UK time, so as back in it's 11am slot it be 4pm here.

shredder orokusaki 01-11-2015 07:29 AM

3 hours left until new episode

neatoman 01-11-2015 07:44 AM

Time to break out the conspiracy theories.

The Legend of Korra had good ratings throughout, so Nickelodeon renewed it for an additional three seasons before season one concluded. When season two premiered there was too little promotion and as result the ratings were dropping, this continued until midway through season three when the ratings were so bad they decided to just dump the restoring season and a half online.

TMNT debuted the same year and like Korra it had the third season (and maybe also the fourth, I can't remember) greenlit before season one had concluded. And much like The Legend of Korra, there has been a lot of oddities with promotion and airtime. And just like Korra, the ratings have dropped.

The conspiracy is that for whatever reason the producers want these shows fail.

Of course a more likely reason is that Korra and TMNT were both building upon previous successes, as such the network might just believe that they would bring in ratings regardless of how they handeled the airings, so they just decided to promote shows "less likely" to draw attention on their own. Which is a disaster for the "recognisable" shows since they still needed promotion for people to know when they were on...

ssjup81 01-11-2015 07:58 AM

Darn it Nick, make up your darn minds! Stop changing the times! Give it its own time slot and keep it there and don't pre-empt it for junk like Full House reruns! Man, if this was 1985 or 1995 as opposed to 2015, and I was a kid, I probably would've given up on this show for its inconsistency, but then again, Nickelodeon wasn't that terrible in 1985 and 1995 when it came to the way they aired their programs. They usually kept their same time slots.

So that means...it'll be airing 1:00 am Monday for me. It's nearly midnight now. Sucks it's not up on Amazon either. I'm really curious about this upcoming episode and since these eps have been kind of linked, I wonder if anything in this ep will lead into the next one (or a future one).

Vicky82 01-11-2015 08:01 AM

Yeah it's on in an hour :D

evan2000 01-11-2015 08:32 AM

Alright, just one more SpongeBob episode to endure through :trazz:

Gunstar_Red 01-11-2015 09:13 AM

c/' "Forget your troubles, come on get happy
You better chase all your troubles away
Shout Hallelujah, come on get happy
Get ready for new episode day!

Mikey is smiling, come on get happy
Donnie's waiting to take your hand
Shout Hallelujah, come on get happy
We are going back to the sewer today!

Forget your troubles, come on get happy
It's a new TMNT episode today~!

Yeah!" c/'

...sorry. ^^; Anyways, the new time slot is bad. For me, it already aired really early in the morning, but I'm working all day. I've got it recorded, so I'm going to watch it late at night after work. The anticipation!

IndigoErth 01-11-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by evan2000 (Post 1404915)
Alright, just one more SpongeBob episode to endure through :trazz:

Pshh... I went and got a shower and all that stuff instead to kill time, worked like a charm. :lol: (After watching two hours of TMNT repeats on Nicktoons first.)

Zulithe 01-11-2015 10:10 AM

why don't they air it Friday night or Saturday morning like they have in the past? Why the change to sunday? i don't get it.

NinjaPug 01-11-2015 11:19 AM

Why are people acting like this is the first time the show has aired on Sunday?

CyberCubed 01-11-2015 11:24 AM

I'm more surprised that in the age of the digital internet, people still complain about missing an episode on TV when you could find it online by the end of the day. This isn't the 90's when you were out of luck if you missed an episode.

evan2000 01-11-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1404972)
I'm more surprised that in the age of the digital internet, people still complain about missing an episode on TV when you could find it online by the end of the day. This isn't the 90's when you were out of luck if you missed an episode.

Gone were the days. But the more things advanced, the more spoiled we become eventually. Not being able to keep up with the rest has become a problem now.

Foombamaroom 01-11-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1404898)
Time to break out the conspiracy theories.

The Legend of Korra had good ratings throughout, so Nickelodeon renewed it for an additional three seasons before season one concluded. When season two premiered there was too little promotion and as result the ratings were dropping, this continued until midway through season three when the ratings were so bad they decided to just dump the restoring season and a half online.

TMNT debuted the same year and like Korra it had the third season (and maybe also the fourth, I can't remember) greenlit before season one had concluded. And much like The Legend of Korra, there has been a lot of oddities with promotion and airtime. And just like Korra, the ratings have dropped.

The conspiracy is that for whatever reason the producers want these shows fail.

Of course a more likely reason is that Korra and TMNT were both building upon previous successes, as such the network might just believe that they would bring in ratings regardless of how they handeled the airings, so they just decided to promote shows "less likely" to draw attention on their own. Which is a disaster for the "recognisable" shows since they still needed promotion for people to know when they were on...

Before I start to agree with you, I just want to mention that Korra also got moved to online due to the violence and storytelling. And with the storytelling that TMNT 2012 is getting, it wouldn't surprise me if it got moved to online, too.

Here's the thing: Nick would rather advertise reruns of the damn Sponge rather than TMNT or LoK. LoK ended on a good note, so at least it shows that Nick had nothing to do with the storytelling. But I feel like moving it to Sunday was a better choice: people usually go out on Friday nights, and it's shown from ratings. But Saturday is still the best timeslot.

I really think this show should be moved to Cartoon Network. Star Wars: The Clone Wars had intense story-arcs with a lot of violence. The soccer moms complained, but CN didn't really give a damn; they knew the kids would watch it anyways. With Nick, they mostly care about stupid shows, like the GODDAMN SPONGE.

IndigoErth 01-11-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1404972)
I'm more surprised that in the age of the digital internet, people still complain about missing an episode on TV when you could find it online by the end of the day. This isn't the 90's when you were out of luck if you missed an episode.

If only it was that easy for every person. Some of us can't even see videos that Nick throws a lock on their site because our cable company is wrong.

Jephael 01-11-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1404972)
I'm more surprised that in the age of the digital internet, people still complain about missing an episode on TV when you could find it online by the end of the day. This isn't the 90's when you were out of luck if you missed an episode.

Call us old fashioned, but for some of us there's just something special about catching it when it airs on television.

Sabacooza 01-11-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1404898)
Time to break out the conspiracy theories.

The Legend of Korra had good ratings throughout, so Nickelodeon renewed it for an additional three seasons before season one concluded. When season two premiered there was too little promotion and as result the ratings were dropping, this continued until midway through season three when the ratings were so bad they decided to just dump the restoring season and a half online.

TMNT debuted the same year and like Korra it had the third season (and maybe also the fourth, I can't remember) greenlit before season one had concluded. And much like The Legend of Korra, there has been a lot of oddities with promotion and airtime. And just like Korra, the ratings have dropped.

The conspiracy is that for whatever reason the producers want these shows fail.

Of course a more likely reason is that Korra and TMNT were both building upon previous successes, as such the network might just believe that they would bring in ratings regardless of how they handeled the airings, so they just decided to promote shows "less likely" to draw attention on their own. Which is a disaster for the "recognisable" shows since they still needed promotion for people to know when they were on...

I totally agree with this. The writing is on the wall. The show is treated very poorly. However, if they kill the show, how do they expect to make new figures if there are no more new characters to make figures of because of no show? I mean they have the other stuff but the main Nick toyline would be dead. Seems kind of dumb to me.

CyberCubed 01-11-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabacooza (Post 1405188)
I totally agree with this. The writing is on the wall. The show is treated very poorly. However, if they kill the show, how do they expect to make new figures if there are no more new characters to make figures of because of no show? I mean they have the other stuff but the main Nick toyline would be dead. Seems kind of dumb to me.

What on earth are you saying? Korra had little to no merch besides the show. In fact I don't think it ever had anything, no toyline and no comics.

Nick TMNT has a toyline plus the various merch with the Nick designs for the Turtles on them. They have no reason to can the show anytime soon especially with a movie sequel greenlit too.

If you really think Nick is going to pull the plug on anything, the IDW comic would likely go first. Considering Nick only gets a small percentage of the profits of the comic because they have to share the sales with IDW, I'd say that would go well before the show.

shredder orokusaki 01-12-2015 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1404972)
I'm more surprised that in the age of the digital internet, people still complain about missing an episode on TV when you could find it online by the end of the day. This isn't the 90's when you were out of luck if you missed an episode.

I must agree with you as most episodes of new show are up on youtube and torrents in less than a day after release so we dont have to worry anymore if we miss a a episode on tv. I remeber back in the 90's and the early 200'0s where we had not any other choice than to watch them on tv. I had missed a few 2003 series episodes because i was out or had something else to do at the time they aired. But now these times are gone. Yes i know that there might be a few people who dont have internet but how many are they? And at the time of this post the new episode is not on the internet yet we wil have to wait til the end of the day it seems

Donnieangelo 01-12-2015 02:06 PM

I'm glad that I don't have Nickelodeon.

Warhorse 01-13-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1404898)
Time to break out the conspiracy theories.

The Legend of Korra had good ratings throughout, so Nickelodeon renewed it for an additional three seasons before season one concluded. When season two premiered there was too little promotion and as result the ratings were dropping, this continued until midway through season three when the ratings were so bad they decided to just dump the restoring season and a half online.

TMNT debuted the same year and like Korra it had the third season (and maybe also the fourth, I can't remember) greenlit before season one had concluded. And much like The Legend of Korra, there has been a lot of oddities with promotion and airtime. And just like Korra, the ratings have dropped.

The conspiracy is that for whatever reason the producers want these shows fail.

Of course a more likely reason is that Korra and TMNT were both building upon previous successes, as such the network might just believe that they would bring in ratings regardless of how they handeled the airings, so they just decided to promote shows "less likely" to draw attention on their own. Which is a disaster for the "recognisable" shows since they still needed promotion for people to know when they were on...

Sadly, this is a well known plot device the big networks used in trying to get rid of a popular show for some reason they didn't want to produce no more. Most likely contracts are what keeps them from cancelling the shows outright, so they just move it around, put specials or other shows in it's usual slot during rerun weeks, don't promote it and such, to the point where the ratings dip far enough for them to finally use it to justify their reasons of cancelling the show. The real question is though, what is it that got the producers/network from being behind the show 100% to all of a sudden being against it and making sure it fails? Is there someone behind the show butting heads with certain execs? A producer or an actor? (this is often the biggest reason behind the mishandling of a show, friction between ceos and show producers/actors.) Is the show really too expensive to produce? Could it be that the ceo's want to sell the product/characters? Maybe the success of the movie could be a factor? They rather dump all energy into the movie which was a modest success instead?

DarthRaphael 01-13-2015 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1405935)
Sadly, this is a well known plot device the big networks used in trying to get rid of a popular show for some reason they didn't want to produce no more. Most likely contracts are what keeps them from cancelling the shows outright, so they just move it around, put specials or other shows in it's usual slot during rerun weeks, don't promote it and such, to the point where the ratings dip far enough for them to finally use it to justify their reasons of cancelling the show. The real question is though, what is it that got the producers/network from being behind the show 100% to all of a sudden being against it and making sure it fails? Is there someone behind the show butting heads with certain execs? A producer or an actor? (this is often the biggest reason behind the mishandling of a show, friction between ceos and show producers/actors.) Is the show really too expensive to produce? Could it be that the ceo's want to sell the product/characters? Maybe the success of the movie could be a factor? They rather dump all energy into the movie which was a modest success instead?



Not just picking on you here, but I want some proof that we know that Nick wants TMNT to fail. I think it makes more sense for a kids cartoon to have new eps premiere on the weekend, almost like the old Saturday morning cartoons. TMNT toys and merchandise is everywhere and I don't see any signs of it selling slowing down, so I can't think of a reason why Nick would want it gone.

Warhorse 01-13-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthRaphael (Post 1405937)
Not just picking on you here, but I want some proof that we know that Nick wants TMNT to fail. I think it makes more sense for a kids cartoon to have new eps premiere on the weekend, almost like the old Saturday morning cartoons. TMNT toys and merchandise is everywhere and I don't see any signs of it selling slowing down, so I can't think of a reason why Nick would want it gone.

Lot of complaints from everywhere (look up IGN review, they even note it) that Nick gives very little promotion the show and very few people are aware when it is to air. And then when there is no new show, instead of just airing a rerun, they rather air reruns of Full House. It seems to me that Nick Toons was doing a better job of promoting the 2k3 marathon than the primary channel is with the 2012. If the network didn't want the show to fail, then why not air it as much as possible to get people to watch their network? It should be aired as much as Spongebob, since last I looked, TMNT is the second most popular show on Nick behind Sponge Bob. But instead of relishing that, the first thing they did was move it to another time slot and replaced it with Breadwinners and some other stupid show that is getting dismal ratings. Please tell me the proof that Nick does want the show to succeed when it keeps moving it out of successful timeslots and replacing it with crap shows?


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