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D Piddy 1982 01-14-2015 04:51 AM

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 up for several Razzies
 
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 is up for a few Razzie nominations...

Worst Picture
Worst Supporting Actress
Worst Director
Worst Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
Worst Screenplay

Details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30810025

B-Man 01-14-2015 05:07 AM

Fox wasn't "supporting", she was the lead (arguably the films biggest problem). If they actually watched the film they'd know that :lol:

Bry 01-14-2015 08:33 AM

Exciting!! It's got stiff competition, but I believe this movie deserves at least a few.

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Originally Posted by B-Man (Post 1406470)
Fox wasn't "supporting", she was the lead (arguably the films biggest problem). If they actually watched the film they'd know that :lol:

Lead and Supporting roles, especially for awards, are kind of loose definitions. Fox might have had the most screen time, and have been one of the very few female roles, but they can define it as a "supporting role" if they're basing that on the Turtles being the "main" roles. Clearly that wasn't the case in the actual movie, but they might still define the roles that way.

TheSkeletonMan939 01-14-2015 08:39 AM

Great job, Bay and Liebesman! You earned those nominations!

ssjup81 01-14-2015 09:40 AM

Wow. Those are a lot of razzie nominations, and didn't the movie gross decently?

That aside, I just saw a trailer. The movie will be shown here in Japan in theaters February 7. Should I go see it and understand why the film is being nominated for like all the razzie award categories, or should I just take everyone else's word for it? lol In all honesty, the only part of the movie I did want to see was the elevator scene, but with Leo headbanging. :lol:

TheSkeletonMan939 01-14-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1406518)
Wow. Those are a lot of razzie nominations, and didn't the movie gross decently?

That aside, I just saw a trailer. The movie will be shown here in Japan in theaters February 7. Should I go see it and understand why the film is being nominated for like all the razzie award categories, or should I just take everyone else's word for it? lol In all honesty, the only part of the movie I did want to see was the elevator scene, but with Leo headbanging. :lol:

Honestly, I'd recommend just holding out for the DVD release. There's nothing about the theater that heightens the experience of this particular film.

D Piddy 1982 01-14-2015 11:29 AM

Should be a shoe-in for worst screenplay. So many gaping holes. If I didn't already know what I know then I would've been hella confused after watching it...

@ssjup81 I would beg to differ about watching it, I think it is worth watching on the big screen because one of it's strong points are the effects and these can always be appreciated more on the big screen IMO

Vicky82 01-14-2015 11:51 AM

I already did this thread a couple of weeks ago.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=50638

Shiro Kame 01-14-2015 12:12 PM

One of my problems with the movie was April's apparent lack of intelligence when talking with her boss. If she'd shown her the photo she had taken of the turtles, she probably wouldn't have lost her job (she gets it back according to the extended ending on Blu-ray BTW). Also, Karai gets demoted to an extra with barely any personality, and there's barely any connection between the mutants and Shredder for any conflict other than the mutagen. I didn't mind Shredder's second-in-command too much, but he stole too much of the spotlight in my opinion, and Shredder barely got any personality or background.

JoshDA7X 01-14-2015 12:22 PM

Going up against Bayformers and Million Ways.... I don't think it will get a look in!

Birdman37 01-14-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiro Kame (Post 1406573)
One of my problems with the movie was April's apparent lack of intelligence when talking with her boss. If she'd shown her the photo she had taken of the turtles, she probably wouldn't have lost her job (she gets it back according to the extended ending on Blu-ray BTW). Also, Karai gets demoted to an extra with barely any personality, and there's barely any connection between the mutants and Shredder for any conflict other than the mutagen. I didn't mind Shredder's second-in-command too much, but he stole too much of the spotlight in my opinion, and Shredder barely got any personality or background.

You mean the picture that the turtles DELETED? Or the picture WAY off of something that you cant tell wtf it is? Might wanna find another example...

The hate that movie gets is astounding. No where near as good as the original but good lord you would think Bay came and kicked some of yalls puppies or murdered Raphael with how strong the hate is for it. Not even as much hate for Next Mutation or the third movie as there is for this as a whole which is ridiculous.

And after I saw Mel Gibson (for Expendables 3) on that list for worst supporting actors, I stopped reading the rest. The highlight of that movie (one could argue Snipes tho) gets a worst supporting actor nomination? GTFO It seems like if something is considered a "summer blockbuster" type of action movie the movie snobs will **** on it regardless.

TigerClaw 01-14-2015 12:53 PM

I don't really care about these awards since, they mean absolutely nothing, I'm sure the Razzies nominated movies that you loved in the passed.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 01-14-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1406582)
I don't really care about these awards since, they mean absolutely nothing, I'm sure the Razzies nominated movies that you loved in the passed.

actually Razzies have become a fun kind of award in the hollywood world

to be nominated is almost an honor



i kind of want one

IndigoErth 01-14-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Man (Post 1406470)
Fox wasn't "supporting", she was the lead (arguably the films biggest problem). If they actually watched the film they'd know that :lol:

No, no, you misunderstand... she gets it for being bad at being a supporting role. :P (Yeah ok it doesn't really work that way, but it's fitting. lol)

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1406518)
In all honesty, the only part of the movie I did want to see was the elevator scene, but with Leo headbanging. :lol:

And that part of it isn't even included, we saw more of the elevator scene in trailers, collectively speaking.


I feel bad for the Turtles, but for some of the film makers.... ptth, nah. Amusing that Bay got his name up there next to Liebesman thanks to his other film.

These awards... good test of Hollywood humility, or so I assume. Ya either show up and accept graciously or look like a jerk. lol

Bry 01-14-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1406592)
actually Razzies have become a fun kind of award in the hollywood world

to be nominated is almost an honor

Exactly. Once again:



The only people who have a problem with the Razzies are the arrogant and the humourless.

And honestly, they're actually really fair about what they nominate - they can tend to single out higher-profile stuff specifically, but they do take care to just target movies that are truly bad (or severely flawed). I'm sure some movies I've liked have been nominated -- I couldn't name any offhand, but it's definitely possible -- but if I'm honest with myself, I'm sure any that did have serious problems that deserve to be acknowledged.

EDIT: I actually went through the last 15 years of nominees and the only movie listed that I legitimately enjoy among them is Speed Racer - and even then it's a guilty pleasure thing (it's not a very good movie, but the visuals are so bright, fun and ridiculous that it's fun to watch). So I dunno, I think their track record of nominations is on point.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 01-14-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1406602)

The only people who have a problem with the Razzies are the arrogant and the humourless

double exactly


you have to be able to poke fun at yourself and the things you love...i bet if it wasnt cause people see it as making fun of TMNT they would be ok with it

TheSkeletonMan939 01-14-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman37 (Post 1406581)
You mean the picture that the turtles DELETED? Or the picture WAY off of something that you cant tell wtf it is? Might wanna find another example...

It's been a while since I saw the movie, but didn't the turtles erase the pictures off the phone and then run away? And didn't April take a picture of them as they were running away?

So she did have pretty solid evidence of the turtles; she was just way too stupid to pull the phone out for Whoopi Goldberg.

IndigoErth 01-14-2015 02:06 PM

Is this shown on tv? Or is there at least guaranteed video later? I don't really bother with award shows anymore, and never really paid much attention to the Razzies either, but in this case I may have to see how this one goes down.

I hope the TMNT nominees can find it in themselves to be good sports about it. (Though I have major doubts.) After all, you can't always win at everything you do, anyone that can't accept that, well.... :roll:

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1406613)
It's been a while since I saw the movie, but didn't the turtles erase the pictures off the phone and then run away? And didn't April take a picture of them as they were running away?

So she did have pretty solid evidence of the turtles; she was just way too stupid to pull the phone out for Whoopi Goldberg.

Yeah, they erased the stuff from her phone. Then after being threatened she goes and takes more photos when they leave.

It might have been from a bit of a distance, but it was enough for Eric Sacks to believe what April was showing him.

Bry 01-14-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1406613)
It's been a while since I saw the movie, but didn't the turtles erase the pictures off the phone and then run away? And didn't April take a picture of them as they were running away?

So she did have pretty solid evidence of the turtles; she was just way too stupid to pull the phone out for Whoopi Goldberg.

She literally went from not showing Whoopi the picture she had, instead solely showing other. far less convincing pieces of "evidence" (and getting fired as a result) to immediately visiting Fichtner's inexplicable New York City mountain estate to show him the exact same picture. No explanation for this is given.

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that they may have edited the scene with Whoopi into the movie out of order from when it happened in the script. Story-wise that doesn't seem to fit, but I can't think of any other reason they'd leave that plot hole where it was.

pennydreadful 01-14-2015 05:31 PM

Realistically though, it's not going to make any difference how many Razzies this movie gets (or Bayformers, for that matter): as long as it makes money, the studios will still keep pumping them out. At this stage of the game, I think we're going to end up with several Bayturtles sequels - I'll be shocked if there aren't a minimum of three Bayturtles movies.

There's still an audience segment that loves Michael Bay, and those people are who he makes movies for. The man's a squillionaire - he's not going away anytime soon, and studios are still going to keep paying him mucho bucks to keep pumping out movies which his fans will throw their dollars at.

Bry 01-14-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1406748)
Realistically though, it's not going to make any difference how many Razzies this movie gets (or Bayformers, for that matter): as long as it makes money, the studios will still keep pumping them out. At this stage of the game, I think we're going to end up with several Bayturtles sequels - I'll be shocked if there aren't a minimum of three Bayturtles movies.

There's still an audience segment that loves Michael Bay, and those people are who he makes movies for. The man's a squillionaire - he's not going away anytime soon, and studios are still going to keep paying him mucho bucks to keep pumping out movies which his fans will throw their dollars at.

Oh, that's all true. I'm not happy about it, but money talks. And considering Paramount keeps letting him pump out awful Transformers movies without stepping in for some quality control, I don't expect much will change on the TMNT front until the money dries up.

That said... Transformers 4's domestic take this year was down lot from the previous movies -- $107m less than TF3 -- and while BayTurtles did well, $191m domestic against a $125m production budget (and an undisclosed marketing budget) isn't exactly record-breaking. It's too soon to call it a trend, but it's possible the shine's coming off the Bay apple stateside.

Overseas, however? He's doing better than ever. It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out next round.

pennydreadful 01-14-2015 06:10 PM

Oh definitely - I'm in total agreement, Bry. I don't understand it, but whatever he's doing, enough people like it that his career isn't going to trend downwards anytime in the foreseeable future.

Studios don't care about quality - they just care about the bucks that he's raking in. Hence why I would be very surprised if Bay weren't handed another 80's franchise in the coming years. By the studios' reasoning, Bay + 80s franchise = money, tickets sold and toy sales.

cryan 01-14-2015 07:12 PM

Yep, as long as the movie gets millions of dollars I don't think the studios care. I saw this coming though I forgot the Razzies

Leo656 01-14-2015 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1406582)
I don't really care about these awards since, they mean absolutely nothing, I'm sure the Razzies nominated movies that you loved in the passed.

That's why every time anyone mentions stuff like this, or negative critic reviews, fan reviews, whichever, you pop in to say you don't care instead of quietly moving along. :lol:

The people who constantly proclaim their lack of caring are the ones who care the most. If you care enough to tell people you don't care, then you care too much.

Just pointing it out for ya, Chief. :)

ssjup81 01-14-2015 11:27 PM

Hm, so the elevator scene doesn't have the head banging. Aw. Welp, there goes my motivation for seeing the movie. lol

D Piddy 1982 01-15-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1406770)
Studios don't care about quality - they just care about the bucks that he's raking in. Hence why I would be very surprised if Bay weren't handed another 80's franchise in the coming years. By the studios' reasoning, Bay + 80s franchise = money, tickets sold and toy sales.

I wonder what other 80's franchises there are which they could do?

The three that seem immediately obvious to me are:

Thundercats
Mask
Dino Riders

Probably others but I've got about 2mins until my lunch break finishes!

Bry 01-15-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by D Piddy 1982 (Post 1406937)
I wonder what other 80's franchises there are which they could do?

I can't wait for all the ass shots, explosions, and pee & fart jokes in Michael Bay's Snorks reboot!

EDIT: Oh my god, someone already did it. And it was Dan Schoening, the artist on IDW's Ghostbusters (and TMNT/Ghostbusters)! :tlol:

http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hph...18696245_n.jpg

Commenter 42 01-15-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1406942)
I can't wait for all the ass shots, explosions, and pee & fart jokes in Michael Bay's Snorks reboot!

EDIT: Oh my god, someone already did it. And it was Dan Schoening, the artist on IDW's Ghostbusters (and TMNT/Ghostbusters)! :tlol:

http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hph...18696245_n.jpg

Look at gget bright side: there are only so many popular franchises to remake. They started remaking things in what, 1997?

Almost everything since has been a remake or a reboot.
For some reason, no one's gone after Pokemon...I know nothing about it, but wasn't it huge in the 90's?

EDIT:
LOL SON!

Bry 01-15-2015 09:01 AM

Man, someone get back to me when the ReBoot reboot happens.

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Purse Grabbin Puke 01-15-2015 09:22 AM

TMNT snubbed by the Academy, not nominated for Best Short Live Action...

ssjup81 01-15-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42 (Post 1406946)
Look at gget bright side: there are only so many popular franchises to remake. They started remaking things in what, 1997?

Almost everything since has been a remake or a reboot.
For some reason, no one's gone after Pokemon...I know nothing about it, but wasn't it huge in the 90's?

EDIT:
LOL SON!

But Pokemon is still ongoing. The series is still on the air now and there are still games released for the franchise. Kind of hard to reboot or remake something that's still currently being made, and with like most Japanese animated programs, it gets a movie every year. I'm not sure how it is back in the states (movie stuff...I actually saw the first one in theaters back in like 1999 and I know movie 2 was in the movie theaters...I think...). But anyway, the show's been on since 1997 and movies have been put out every year since 1998.

Powder 01-15-2015 12:05 PM

Plus, Pokemon is owned by Nintendo. They don't let anyone get their grubby mitts on their property.

ssjup81 01-15-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1406997)
Plus, Pokemon is owned by Nintendo. They don't let anyone get their grubby mitts on their property.

That too. We saw what happened with those CD-i games as well as the Mario Bros movie. lol

TigerClaw 01-15-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1406997)
Plus, Pokemon is owned by Nintendo. They don't let anyone get their grubby mitts on their property.

Actually, Sony Pictures got rights to make an animated Super Mario Bros movie from Nintendo.

plastroncafe 01-15-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1406955)
Man, someone get back to me when the ReBoot reboot happens.

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com...t-big-real.gif

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10...n_4035942.html

Ask and ye shall receive.

Bry 01-15-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1406997)
Plus, Pokemon is owned by Nintendo. They don't let anyone get their grubby mitts on their property.

Well, they've released an absolute ton of anime movies, and I didn't realize the show is still running and has been consistently since 1997 - so that property's obviously doing just fine without Hollywood. The risk couldn't possibly be worth it.

Though, on the topic of Nintendo: I can imagine Legend of Zelda and Pixar-style Mario movies turning out really well if a really talented team put the effort in. Which is a long shot. But there's a ton of potential.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1407014)

Keeping my fingers crossed! And they actually gave it a title and a logo fairly recently, but something has been "in the works" off and on for like ten years. At this point I'll believe it when I'm watching it. :P

Powder 01-15-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1407004)
Actually, Sony Pictures got rights to make an animated Super Mario Bros movie from Nintendo.

Shigeru Miyamoto said that was bull.

pannoni1 01-15-2015 02:48 PM

IMO Razzies should be only for the "so awful, it's not even bad enough to be funny." While I'd admit that the Michael Bay movie was below average, it has some redeeming moments and I feel that the Razzies are more for show than purpose, and they choose the noms to draw ratings rather than pick obscure films/actors that few people ever heard of. Did you know that in 2010, Sandra Bullock won a Razzie and an Oscar?

Autbot_Benz 01-15-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by D Piddy 1982 (Post 1406937)
I wonder what other 80's franchises there are which they could do?

The three that seem immediately obvious to me are:

Thundercats
Mask
Dino Riders

Probably others but I've got about 2mins until my lunch break finishes!

Bay should do Voltron its right up his alley.

DarkFell 01-15-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1407017)
Keeping my fingers crossed! And they actually gave it a title and a logo fairly recently, but something has been "in the works" off and on for like ten years. At this point I'll believe it when I'm watching it. :P

I'm curious as to who will be the voice actor for Megabyte should the reboot of Reboot ever happen since Tony Jay is deceased.


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