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IndigoErth 01-16-2015 01:34 PM
Are Your Children Captured by Ninja Turtles? Feb 1991
 
http://i.imgur.com/q0zKxvp.jpg

https://archive.org/stream/ERIC_ED33...ge/n1/mode/2up

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How to turn what children love into what is appropriate

This booklet will explain ways to communicate with children about such phenomena as Ninja Turtles. The same techniques may be used to help teachers or parents deal with any fad or idea that appears to consume children. Participants will learn how to move children to related but completely separate play (curriculum) activities.

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Thirdly, turtles are causing young children to become even more consumer oriented than ever at a young age. As one four-year-old expressed: "Buy me more, more, more of the same old turtles -- they keep breaking and I want more." Finally, Ninja Turtles (even though they claim to be useful beings) demonstrate a way of being and language that teachers are trying to keep children from using. Words such as "mugged," "weapons," "kidnapped," "fight," "battle," "brawl," "snatchers," "killer," "cowabunga," "shredder," "invasion," and others are used as Ninja Turtles communicate. (It is true that words such as strength, knowledge, and peace are also used but since children naturally want "to feel feel big, proud, and important" [Hymes: 1981]; they seem to focus on the previous negative words that imply greater power.)

There are other important elements that will also be covered in the booklet. An overall summery of objectives follows. The reader will gain an understanding of the: (1) history of Ninja Turtles; (2) identification of turtles and their strengths (to help teachers communicate better with children); (3) problems connected with the turtles as the problems relate to preschool children; (4) ways to help children move beyond Ninja Turtle activities; (5) specific examples of activities to substitute for Ninja Turtle activities; and (6) specific ways to speak to children about Ninja Turtles. It is hoped that the booklet will be entertaining and challenging as teachers work to improve personal classroom environments

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There are many verbal statements teachers may use when interacting with children that help change their way of thinking or, redirect the children's behavior. Some examples of those statements include:
1. "Ninja Turtles are pretend. See how real turtles walk using four legs. Real turtles do not wear clothes.
2. It is fun to pretend but right now the pet turtle needs feeding. Help me get grapes from the refrigerator.
3. You may paint like Michelangelo; however you are Justin.
4. Pound the clay, not Billy.
5. His name is Tommy (when the child calls another "barfoni")."
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:lol: Just a few bits and pieces, see link for rest. (Pardon any typos, retyped by hand.)

Some of that... The poor poor older generations trying to raise and teach kids of those times, such a difficult struggle with Turtlemania. Apparently. :lol:

Candy Kappa 01-16-2015 01:39 PM
haha, amazing.

blindturtle02 01-16-2015 02:10 PM
Oh God! This reminds me of my step-grandmother. I think she had this one. She'd never seen the show but claimed they were a bunch of bad influences. "Bla bla bla. The turtles are too violent. The turtles promote gang-like behavior. yak yak yak." She tried brainwashing me for I don't know how long, but all that did was piss me off. I held it in check for a kid of seven or thereabouts, but I'd always vent to mom whenever I'd finished visiting my dad and step-mom for the summer. Dad and mom were fine with Turtles. My step-mom's side of the family never was. Turtles really made my step-grandmother nuts. Well, until she watched the show a few years later and actually found out for herself that the guys weren't even using their weapons to attack anyone most of the time. She even begrudgingly bought me a few figures. Most of my teachers were okay with Turtles. I remember them popping in numerous FHE videos to keep us quiet on Friday afternoons. I didn't know many old folks who found them harmless except my grandma on my biological mom's side. Now, she's an awesome lady. lol Booklets like this are a scream to look over these days, however. Seriously, the thought of adults sucking all the joy out of the lives of kiddos does make me want to scream, especially when they didn't do their research and read claptrap like this back in the day. Thanks for posting this, Indigo. That booklet wouldn't happen to be written by Burne Thompson, would it?

CyberCubed 01-16-2015 02:22 PM
This happens for every big kids franchise.

Remember the "Pokemon and Harry Potter is evil" stuff from those days? Power Rangers had anti stuff like this too.

Powder 01-16-2015 02:28 PM
Brings to mind TMNT Exposed, a book slamming the property & making it out to be a guide for turning children into war criminals.

CyberCubed 01-16-2015 02:38 PM
I wonder how this stuff continually comes up every generation, since the "adults" from the 80's and 90's were not the same "adults" from the 2000's.

Its baffling, you think that "our" generation who grew up in the late 80's and 90's who are now the current adults understand kids franchises and superheroes and comics, anime and videogames since we were all exposed to it when we were younger.

So who are these people? Its hard to imagine anyone who is in their 20's today who has never liked videogames, cartoons, anime, or comics books.

Bry 01-16-2015 02:40 PM
I remember a few childhood friends who weren't allowed to watch TMNT, and I think I remember one was even barred from hanging out with me for a while after they watched an episode at my parents' house. I remember some other parents who were pretty judgmental about my folks letting me watch "violent" cartoons and The Simpsons when I was young - which is funny, because I turned out a lot more gentle, respectful and well-adjusted (and got into far less trouble) than many of the kids who had really strict upbringings.

It's hilarious to think back on this kind of outrage and backlash, considering how utterly tame the '87 cartoon was compared to almost everything before and after it.

IndigoErth 01-16-2015 02:42 PM
War criminals?? :lol:

And youngsters today wonder why things were the way they were back then or don't see their benefit of being young today rather than 20+ years ago. They think some people act too sensitive over some things these days? I've got news for ya, kid, it used to be worse. lol

CyberCubed 01-16-2015 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1407494)
It's hilarious to think back on this kind of outrage and backlash, considering how utterly tame the '87 cartoon was compared to almost everything before and after it.
To be fair, back in the 80's the original TMNT cartoon WAS the most action oriented and "violent" cartoon at its time. Compare it to all the other 80's cartoons.

It only looks tame now looking back on it after 90's cartoons raised the bar with B:TAS and Gargoyles.

TheCanadiandrome 01-16-2015 03:07 PM
this thing is too funny

blindturtle02 01-16-2015 03:51 PM
Yeah Bry, I was also into Simpsons back when I was a kid and I never acted out at school or anything. I wonder what kids who weren't allowed to watch Turtles etc did to amuse themselves? Cubed, funny you should mention Power Rangers because I remember a bunch of teachers up in arms about those. Never mind the fact that nearly all the teens did was charity stuff when they weren't battling monsters back in the day. Very laughable. They put out some article in those old Weekly Readers accusing shows like TMNT and Power Rangers of causing a couple kids to kill their younger sister or some nonsense. Yeah, it's baffling alright.

TMNT Exposed, huh Powder? I'd love to read that just to see how many facts they got wrong. Boy, adults used to get so very hot under the collar when my friends and I would try explaining what the turtles were really about back in the 90's, especially when they found out that they didn't have their facts straight. Forget getting most old folks to sit down and watch an episode. I guess they were afraid of being influenced or something equally zany. My step-grandmother did enjoy Gargoyles,and to this day I still have no idea why. Disney's involvement, maybe. Never mind that show had a few character deaths in it unlike TMNT 1987. Man, they would have hated TMNT 2k3. haha

snake 01-16-2015 04:02 PM
Ha! I love this stuff.

DevilSpooky 01-16-2015 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1407490)
So who are these people? Its hard to imagine anyone who is in their 20's today who has never liked videogames, cartoons, anime, or comics books.
Those people are the kids of the 80's that came from broken houses, kids that had extremely over religious parents that brainwashed them into thinking that anything fun is the devil. So they grew up into the same closed minded individuals as their parents before them, and will threat their kids the same way, and so on, it's a vicious cicle that will never end.

CaliperCat 01-16-2015 08:24 PM
In sociology, we call this a moral panic. :lol:

Well, that might be a bit of an exaggeration. This was before I was born, so I don't know how wide-spread such sentiments were. Seeing that comics went through one a few decades ago, and Ninja Turtles started as comics (I believe), it's not too surprising.

IndigoErth 01-16-2015 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1407490)
I wonder how this stuff continually comes up every generation, since the "adults" from the 80's and 90's were not the same "adults" from the 2000's.
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1407502)
It only looks tame now looking back on it after 90's cartoons raised the bar with B:TAS and Gargoyles.
Prob partly it right there. Raise the bar... bar is scary... raise bar further, old level no longer scary, repeat. lol



Think one of my fave lines from that booklet is that one -
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3. You may paint like Michelangelo; however you are Justin.
I mean omg, thanks for the reminder, teacher! I was SO CLOSE to entirely forgetting who I was! You just saved me from a lifelong identity crisis. :lol:

Are or were we so desperate to be absolutely grounded only in reality that we just have got to make sure kids don't forget their own identity? And assume kids don't understand the concept of "pretend" when they're the ones who specialize in it?

DarkFell 01-16-2015 09:44 PM
Apparently we also needed to be reminded that real turtles don't wear clothes.

CaliperCat 01-16-2015 10:42 PM
What's really absurd is that Michelangelo the turtle wasn't know for painting. In reality, they were concerned with children mistaking themselves for melancholy Renaissance artists. :lol:

snake 01-16-2015 11:04 PM
My favorite thing is when they suggest replacing playing with ooze........by making slime.

pennydreadful 01-17-2015 12:03 AM
"Pound the clay, not Billy." :lol:

Seriously though, the people who made this booklet must be great fun to be around. I bet they really liven up a room.

"So, seen any good movies lately?"

"No! Movies are full of pretend characters that make you become even more consumer oriented! Now help me get grapes from the refrigerator."

Refractive Reflections 01-17-2015 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1407502)
To be fair, back in the 80's the original TMNT cartoon WAS the most action oriented and "violent" cartoon at its time. Compare it to all the other 80's cartoons.

It only looks tame now looking back on it after 90's cartoons raised the bar with B:TAS and Gargoyles.
Today's shocking moments, are tomorrow's yawn-worthy historical events.

IndigoErth 01-17-2015 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1407690)
"No! Movies are full of pretend characters that make you become even more consumer oriented! Now help me get grapes from the refrigerator."
:lol:

What's that, grandma? Your knee is acting up again? Be nice to my Turtles or get your own darn grapes. :trazz:

Leo656 01-17-2015 05:04 AM
In reference to why people who grow up with something like cartoons or video games often grow up to be the same insulated, over-conservative ninnies their parents were... well, I have a strong theory that having and raising kids makes you stupid. I've only seen it proven, never disproven. So that's my theory.

neatoman 01-17-2015 05:22 AM
Tell me, has anyone ever tried to connect TMNT to Illuminati or Satan? I know there's this guy on Youtube who makes videos that are nothing but farfetched conspiracies that connect pop culture to Illuminati and Satan.

I think I'll take a whack at constructing something like that, ahem:
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe
Now the Technodrome has only one eye, just like the Illuminati symbol. The Shredder is a Japanese man bent on conquering the world, this clearly represents Japanese corporate expansion of the 1980's, telling us that we should bow down to Japanese control. Krang is clearly an analouge for Satan himself, he is an evil being of power from another dimension that require the help of a human to use his power. The alliance between Shredder and Krang is clearly intended to be a demonic deal, Shredder has sold his soul to Krang for power. Their minions are human beings turned into robots, representing the loss of one's will when allied with Satan. Their other henchmen, Bebop and Rocksteady being a Rhino and a warthog, represent the Behemoth and the Leviathan that will the end of the world under their Satanic masters.

Now the Ninja Turtles are reptiles, clearly making them Satanic alien race Tares, or reptilians in lay man's terms. They seek to control the populus through the news media, that is why they are allied with a reporter. There is also no coincidence that their master is a rat, the bearer of plagues and misery. The rat in question is also a Japanese man, but not one of military and technological conquest like the Shredder, but rather spiritual conquest, he is shown teaching Japanese mysticism to children. So what you have there is not a rat who spreads a literal plague but rather one who spreads a plague of the mind, his purpose in the show is to turn children away from the teachings of the lord Jesus Christ and into the hands of the Devil.

So what we have here are two Satanic factions fighting over the control of the world. And that makes perfect sense...

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-17-2015 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1407748)
Tell me, has anyone ever tried to connect TMNT to Illuminati or Satan? I know there's this guy on Youtube who makes videos that are nothing but farfetched conspiracies that connect pop culture to Illuminati and Satan.

I think I'll take a whack at constructing something like that, ahem:
Yes

http://tmntentity.blogspot.se/2011/0...a-turtles.html

neatoman 01-17-2015 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1407756)
Amazing that some people actually believe all non-christian religions are automatically satanic...

MsMarvelDuckie 01-17-2015 12:47 PM
Haven't you heard? If it ain't mainstream conservative "American" dogma, it's "EVIL"!!

Being totally tongue-in-cheek here, in case it wasn't already obvious. I'd be as insulted by that mind-set as anyone, being a Wiccan- read: witch. So, yeah, apparently, I'm TOPS on the list of Satanic folks.... Why didn't I get the memo??!!!


@ neatoman: LOL! I liked that "post". Really funny, and spot-on. Sadly, there are many people like that out there, and I've personally run into more than my share. I just take their little religious tracts, nod, smile, and roll my eyes as they walk away.

Bry 01-17-2015 01:41 PM
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His name is Tommy (when the child calls another "barfoni").
Maybe Tommy Barfoni is proud of his heritage. You can't take that away from him, book! I won't let you!

monsterocket 01-18-2015 04:42 AM
This is hilarious. Reminds me of that old news broadcast where they interviewed moms about the upcoming Super Nintendo release.


Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-29-2015 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1407863)
Amazing that some people actually believe all non-christian religions are automatically satanic...
Not only that. Some even go to a point where the only correct Bible interpretation is the one of their own denomination, everything else is seen as the "Whore of Babylon". But when the Islamic State organization spreads across Iraq and Syria, those Christians suddenly defend each other...

tmnt transformer 01-29-2015 09:15 AM
This reminds me of my mom on some subjects. Over thinking stuff. Seriously tho, I don't understand how some people can be so, overeactive about some subjects.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-29-2015 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by monsterocket (Post 1408345)
This is hilarious. Reminds me of that old news broadcast where they interviewed moms about the upcoming Super Nintendo release.

I can't watch the video.


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