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Barkworm 09-01-2003 01:16 AM

What do you think about "modern" Rock-bands?
 
Since there are a lot of Rock-threads these days, I decided to start a thread about the popular Rockmusic which has come up within the last 7-8 years. I want your opinion especially on the following genres:
The Nu-Metal bands: Bands like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Deftones but also Korn and Slipknot who do quite heavy music with a lot influence of Hiphop and Electro. Although I own some albums I never got used to this kind od music. The riffs are too simple (of course that's just my opinion since I never learned to play an instrument) and the Hiphop influence is often quite lame. This music isn't my cup of tea.
The New-Grunge stuff: Bands like Creed, Puddle of Mud, Nickelback, Staind etc. who tried to bring back one of the greatest Rock-genres ever. Of course they have some good songs but they'll never be near as good as Grunge has been back in the early nineties. Plus a lot of their stuff is too similar and boring.
The Retro-Rockbands (or the new "The"-bands :wink: ): Those are the press-darlings. Their music is not really "new" since they have a huge 70s-influence but bands like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, The Hives, The Vines or The White Stripes are doing some cool ****. From the three genres I have listed I like them the most by far.
Of course there are other, maybe even more important bands like Radiohead or Queens of the Stone Age but they are not that easy to categorize.
So what do you think?

That Matt Guy 09-01-2003 05:12 AM

:dead: :dead: :dead:

Taloniss 09-01-2003 06:34 AM

I like the modern stuff. Bands like KoRn, Linkin Park, Deftones, White Stripes, Foo Fighters, Slipknot, and Papa Roach all adorn my CD collection.

That Matt Guy 09-01-2003 06:48 AM

I can tolerate some of them, but Korn and Papa Roach really make me want to puke.

damnhooligan 09-01-2003 08:04 AM

I personally dig Audioslave and Sevendust myself.

Though I'm more into trip hop and bossanova (Really!). I stopped avidly listening to rock after the grunge phase fizzled out.

Voltron 09-01-2003 08:48 AM

I find it amazing how 90+% of everything that comes out anymore sounds like someone gargling their own vomit.

That Matt Guy 09-01-2003 09:24 AM

Where the hell did the term "Nu Metal" come from? That's the lamest expression I have ever seen.

Brodie 09-01-2003 09:33 AM

I like some new stuff. Not Limp Bizkit or KoRn, but bands like Ill Nino, Murderdolls, Powerman 5000, The Blank Theory, Nothingface, In Flames and Seether are great. I'm really starting to get into bands like Spineshank.

Raven 09-01-2003 09:46 AM

i think modern bands are ok, i like the foo fighters, sevendust, korn, disturbed, ect.
there ok, for the moment, but i still like mushroomhead more.

Eternelle 09-01-2003 10:19 AM

I'm all for bands like Audioslave and Disturbed, and even some Linkin Park. My favorites though are more the Pop-rock groups like Matchbox Twenty, GooGoo Dolls, Fuel, Third Eye Blind, 3 doors Down, Smashing Pumpkins, and Counting Crows...though I'm not really sure what category the last few fit into...

Reznorite420 09-01-2003 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138
I can tolerate some of them, but Korn and Papa Roach really make me want to puke.

Don't walk into my room if you hear sound, in that case ;)

Anyway, I guess I'll go for Disturbed and Audioslave. You should've read the editorial in my school newspaper about "the rock comeback". It basically went on to explain how rock is emerging from it's "crappy pop hiatus" into what it should really sound like; according to him, stuff that was released from the early 80's Metallica-ish stuff to around '92.

SkaterMike 09-01-2003 04:10 PM

I think good rock music is finally starting to come around again. In fact, I'm listening to The Strokes as I write this. Since the Ramones and the Clash are two of my favourite bands, I'm really glad to see music like this making a comback. I also really like the Foo Fighters. I'm not too big on the nu-metal stuff, but don't mind it every once and a while. Say what you want about Sum 41, but they have some amazing guitar work and alot better, more heavy metal sound on their new album

Kid Icarus 09-01-2003 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew138
I can tolerate some of them, but Korn and Papa Roach really make me want to puke.

*nod*

Add the 'new' punk, if you can even call it punk, and that's my view on it.

the 'The' bands are okay. the vines were pretty horrid though, they sounded like Nirvana and the Beatles squished together (get free has the same set up as Negative Creep. The exact same). The Hives were good, unless you listend to them more than twice a day. Same for the Strokes.

nu-metal needs to go far away. *nods*.

nu-grunge needs to go too. Audioslave and Pearl Jam should stay though.

also, the new Gn'R. Buckethead? -_-. Velvet Revolver is good though.

edit: just rememberd Radiohead. If you're open to... um.. i'll just say diffrent... music, they're really really kick ass.

Brodie 09-01-2003 05:55 PM

Yes, Velvet Revolver.

What does Our Lady Peace classify as?

Leo656 09-01-2003 06:07 PM

Buckethead is an awesome guitar player and that's all there is to it. I honestly couldn't care less that he dresses up like a freak.

Dr. Doom 09-01-2003 06:29 PM

It all sucks. I like to go to concerts that my local "new rock" station holds, and turn the firehose on everybody. These people wouldn't know music it it was a pineapple shoved up their asses.

Quiller-Bee 09-01-2003 07:54 PM

I'm really liking Audioslave right now. I always liked Soundgarden and Rage Against the Machine, so I was pretty sure I'd like 'em . . . I just never woulda guessed that I would this much. I'll be happy when they get another CD out because I'm more than ready for some new stuff from them.

The vast majority of this pop-punk "number band" stuff doesn't do a helluva lot for me, and I can't say that I'm overly sorry to see that's it's on the decline now. Most of it just can't stand up to the greats of the past.

As far as the "The" bands go, I'm pretty much with Gwgtrunks. A few of them are enjoyable for a little while, but start to wear thin rather quickly.

I'm about evenly split with the Nu Metal bands. A few of 'em are pretty cool, but many of them I can do without. Limp Bizkit tops that list.

Honestly, I listen to a lot of different stuff from a number of genres and time periods. (If you browsed through my numerous CD's, you'd think I was schizo.) No matter how it's divided up and categorized, I've found that almost every type of music has its good stuff as well as its crap.

BTW . . . Eternelle, good to see another Pumpkins fan!

Reznorite420 09-02-2003 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiller-Bee
I'm really liking Audioslave right now.

I was immediately hooked after hearing Show Me How to Live the first time.

Voltron 09-02-2003 06:14 PM

Thats Audio Slave? But....But....it doesn't sound like ****! What the hell is up?

Kid Icarus 09-02-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656
Buckethead is an awesome guitar player and that's all there is to it. I honestly couldn't care less that he dresses up like a freak.

I'll always like Slash more. Sure, he didn't show his face either... *shrugs*. And anyone can be a good guitar player, it just takes a lot of practice ( i know this. i spent the last 15 minutes learning the verse to Black Hole Sun).

Psycrow 09-02-2003 09:14 PM

www.club977.com

Tis the radio station I listen to :D

Leo656 09-02-2003 09:23 PM

Oddly enough, Slash is even more of a cartoon character than Buckethead...

I mean, Buckethead wears a KFC bucket on his head atop a Mike Meyers mask... but hell, the last time I saw Slash, he was in a f*cking Puff Daddy video. I'll take the freak with the chicken bucket any day.

See, I'm sorry but I get pissed easy about the "new" GNR, and people always saying that the new band sucks "because Slash isn't there". Well, you know what? F*ck Slash. I love him, he's one of the greatest guitar players ever in my opinion, but he is NOT the be-all, end-all of guitar players. In fact, I'd go so far as to say Buckethead KILLS Slash, because he can play everything Slash can play and a million things Slash never even heard of.

I've heard a few of the brand new GNR songs, and they're great. Most of the ones I heard sound like "classic" GNR. But the album still aint gonna sell. And why? Because the only two Gunners anyone ever remembers are Axl and Slash, and they think that somehow that formula was the only reason for the band's success. So everyone has it drilled in their heads that any version of GNR without Slash HAS to suck, and that's why "Chinese Democracy" is gonna flop despite the fact that it's gonna be a great album. And it pisses me off.

I wasn't talking about you or anyone specefically, either, Gwg, it's just that every DAY I hear someone say how "GNR sucks without Slash" and I needed to vent.

Reznorite420 09-02-2003 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltron
Thats Audio Slave? But....But....it doesn't sound like sh**! What the hell is up?

I think Voltron just had an epiphany...

Barkworm 09-02-2003 11:54 PM

I just think it's not really going to be "GNR", not because Slash isn't in the band but because Duff and Izzy aren't in the band either. It's more like the new "Axl Rose"-band. I mean, if you hear the name of a famous band you expect at least two faces which have always been in this band, don't you?
Nevertheless I'm sure Axl is doing some sweet stuff (even though I wasn't too fond of that "Oh my god"-song).
BTW Leo, have you already heard that "Velvet Revolver" Song? I think its name was "Set me free" or something. Let's say that song shows that Izzy, Duff and Slash aren't too good without Axl! :D

That Matt Guy 09-03-2003 12:57 AM

Whats the deal with Axl Rose anyway? What with the shaved eyebrows and such.

GK Punk 09-03-2003 01:00 AM

I like Velvet revolver. I don't think Izzy is in the band though, unless he just recorded on the Track.

GNR actually has two members, Axl and Dizzy.

Barkworm 09-03-2003 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
I like Velvet revolver. I don't think Izzy is in the band though, unless he just recorded on the Track

Oh, I didn't know that. And to be fair, I just know one song, maybe the rest is better.
Quote:

GNR actually has two members, Axl and Dizzy.
Yeah, but Dizzy is not one of THE members who were around when the band started and he didn't do a lot of the songwriting.

GK Punk 09-03-2003 02:01 AM

yeah, I guess only hard core GNR fans would recognize dizzy lol.

Dr. Doom 09-03-2003 01:21 PM

Axl Rose is a shmuck.



I thought your GnR fans might like this, or at least appreciate it more than a non-fan such as me did. In Mega Man X5, all the level bosses, or Mavericks, in the game were given names incorperated with people who supposedly all have something to do with the band when it was translated to english....take a look. I imagine if you're a fan, I won't need to point out who's who. Not in appearance, really, but in name.


http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/.../grizzly_s.png
Grizzly Slash

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...mx5/duff_m.png
Duff McWhalen

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...x5/squid_a.png
Squid Adler

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...mx5/dark_d.png
Dark Dizzy

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...mx5/izzy_g.png
Izzy Glow

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...mx5/skiver.png
The Skiver

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...x5/mattrex.png
Mattrex

http://megaman.retrofaction.com/mmx/...mx5/axle_r.png
Axl The Red

Kid Icarus 09-03-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656
Oddly enough, Slash is even more of a cartoon character than Buckethead...

I mean, Buckethead wears a KFC bucket on his head atop a Mike Meyers mask... but hell, the last time I saw Slash, he was in a f*cking Puff Daddy video. I'll take the freak with the chicken bucket any day.

See, I'm sorry but I get pissed easy about the "new" GNR, and people always saying that the new band sucks "because Slash isn't there". Well, you know what? F*ck Slash. I love him, he's one of the greatest guitar players ever in my opinion, but he is NOT the be-all, end-all of guitar players. In fact, I'd go so far as to say Buckethead KILLS Slash, because he can play everything Slash can play and a million things Slash never even heard of.

I've heard a few of the brand new GNR songs, and they're great. Most of the ones I heard sound like "classic" GNR. But the album still aint gonna sell. And why? Because the only two Gunners anyone ever remembers are Axl and Slash, and they think that somehow that formula was the only reason for the band's success. So everyone has it drilled in their heads that any version of GNR without Slash HAS to suck, and that's why "Chinese Democracy" is gonna flop despite the fact that it's gonna be a great album. And it pisses me off.

I wasn't talking about you or anyone specefically, either, Gwg, it's just that every DAY I hear someone say how "GNR sucks without Slash" and I needed to vent.

trust me, i know what you're talking about with pepole slamming bands you like. i get "you know Kurt is dead, right?" or "they can't play" every time i wear a Nirvana shirt to school... and this is from Good Charlotte and local 'punk' fans. :| .

i'll pry check out Gn'R's new album... not sure if i'll buy it or not though.

GK Punk 09-03-2003 05:02 PM

:lol:

Yeah, I think I heard about that before. That's a great little "Tribute" to GNR.

and Gwg, I usually tell people to listen more to Kurt's song writing than actual abilities at playing the guitar. Song writing was his best talent.

Kid Icarus 09-03-2003 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
and Gwg, I usually tell people to listen more to Kurt's song writing than actual abilities at playing the guitar. Song writing was his best talent.

:lol: those people wouldent know good lyrics if it bit them on them ass. they think "girls don't like boy girls like cars and money" is an example of song writing genious.

GK Punk 09-03-2003 05:27 PM

LOL

Yeah, I Know what you mean -_-

Leo656 09-03-2003 05:47 PM

Well, I kinda like that song, mostly cuz it's... y'know... TRUE and all. :lol:

Regardless, I don't see how anyone could knock Nirvana... even the rap kids back in school liked at least a few Nirvana songs.

And Axl may or may not be a schmuck, but he IS my hero. And he can do no wrong in my eyes.

Raven 09-03-2003 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
I like Velvet revolver. I don't think Izzy is in the band though, unless he just recorded on the Track.

GNR actually has two members, Axl and Dizzy.

oh man I love velvet revolver!!!! I heard that they got cut from there record deal or somthing like that, i cant remeber.

GK Punk 09-03-2003 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by major pain
Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
I like Velvet revolver. I don't think Izzy is in the band though, unless he just recorded on the Track.

GNR actually has two members, Axl and Dizzy.

oh man I love velvet revolver!!!! I heard that they got cut from there record deal or somthing like that, i cant remeber.

I'm not sure, I know they jumped from one label to another at some point, I'll go look in to if they got dropped.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/n...php?newsid=788

Raven 09-03-2003 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=788

:D thanks, I knew it was somthing like that.

GK Punk 09-03-2003 09:20 PM

yeah, no problem! It sounds like their full album will be out before too much longer!

Kid Icarus 09-03-2003 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie
yeah, no problem! It sounds like their full album will be out before too much longer!

but how much longer untill Wieland gets him self caught with drugs again? I give it 6 months... unless he actually does clean up this time. :oops:

GK Punk 09-03-2003 09:58 PM

Yeah, that could be a huge problem. I guess it's a wait and see kinda thing.


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