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Vicky82 03-12-2015 02:31 PM

Frozen 2
 
Frozen 2 is coming out in cinemas.

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Disney's giant franchise marathon continues, with today's announcement that the 53rd film in their animated classics line (and the company's highest grossing internally developed film ever), Frozen, will be receiving an official sequel. During the same shareholders meeting that saw the announcement of the release date for Star Wars: Episode VIII and Gareth Edwards' spin-off film Rogue One, Disney CEO Bob Iger and Pixar chief creative officer John Lasseter confirmed plans for Frozen 2.

"We enjoyed making Frozen Fever so much, and being back in that world with those characters," said Lasseter, referring to the short film that is playing in front of Kenneth Branagh's Cinderella. He also confirmed the return of the directing duo from the first film when he said that "Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck have come up with a great idea for a sequel, and you will be hearing a lot more about it. And we're taking you back to Arendelle. We are so excited about that."

Sequels to Disney animated films are rarely released theatrically, but Frozen was a likely exception given how successful the film was. No release window for the film was given.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=116583

I think i'm the only person who hasn't seen Frozen yet.

Gunpowder 03-12-2015 02:43 PM

"Disney Won't Let It Go" - Haha. That's funny.

Anyway, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

CyberCubed 03-12-2015 02:49 PM

Frozen is the new Toy Story or Shrek. I expect to see 4 Frozen movies like we have 4 Toy Story movies and 4 Shrek movies.

Hopefully they reveal that Elsa is a lesbian in the sequel. It will truly push boundaries if Disney has a lesbian princess for the first time.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 03-12-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1431505)
Hopefully they reveal that Elsa is a lesbian in the sequel. It will truly push boundaries if Disney has a lesbian princess for the first time.

Erm, Ok then?

CyberCubed 03-12-2015 03:06 PM

Why not? We're in 2015 its beyond time for that. Elsa hasn't had a love interest yet but you can bet in a sequel there probably will be one. Why not have it be another woman?

This isn't the 90's anymore.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 03-12-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1431518)
Why not? We're in 2015 its beyond time for that. Elsa hasn't had a love interest yet but you can bet in a sequel there probably will be one. Why not have it be another woman?

This isn't the 90's anymore.

Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

Candy Kappa 03-12-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands? (Post 1431523)
Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

Nothing really suggested any sexual orientation, be it heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual.

I do hope if it's ever explored she won't be straight.

IndigoErth 03-12-2015 03:41 PM

Seriously? I thought that was one of the ones that, like Tangled, they were just going to let it stand alone and the short they made will be the only 'sequel'?

I mean they did that for Tangled, gave it a short (that largely focused on the damn animals...) and that's it. Still waiting for another of that one but doesn't seem Disney has any plans to.

Took me a while to catch Frozen but did see it several months ago.


Edit: Actually... anymore it seems that most 'sequelized' movies via Disney have been done by Pixar. I'm not sure Disney's own animation studio has done too many sequels for a while so will be interesting if they do go ahead with this one.

DarkLightDragon 03-12-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands? (Post 1431523)
Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

She didn't end of with a guy, duh.

Typical Cybercubed logic for ya.

Netkeeper 03-12-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1431549)
Seriously? I thought that was one of the ones that, like Tangled, they were just going to let it stand alone and the short they made will be the only 'sequel'?

I mean they did that for Tangled, gave it a short (that largely focused on the damn animals...) and that's it. Still waiting for another of that one but doesn't seem Disney has any plans to.

Tangled wasn't as wildly popular as Frozen was.

I'm not surprised it's getting a sequel, but I don't feel strongly either way about it.

snake 03-12-2015 04:12 PM

I really don't know what they could do in a sequel, but whatever. Not really looking forward to it.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 04:13 PM

Frozen was such a big hit partly because it's emotional story rang true. Elsa has been a repressed woman finally able to embrace her own individuality. (I really wish she had been the protagonist instead of Anna... Anna was boring in comparison.) Knowing quite a few repressed women, this movie really resounded with me and above-mentioned women.

If Frozen can recapture that depth of emotion and magic again, AWESOME. If not, it will be severely lacking.

Although honestly, Tangled also had that same emotional story of repressed woman becoming free to embrace her own individuality and independence, and THAT movie ALSO really resounded with me and twice-above-mentioned ladies.

Two for two, Disney... two for two! :tcool:

IndigoErth 03-12-2015 04:14 PM

Well, they originally were considering a Tangled 2, however from what I've read it's no longer on the table. Tangled was and is quite popular, but with Frozen coming along afterward and using some of the same style brought about in Tangled, hard to keep the spotlight. Plus it would have to divert into some other kind of story outside the Rapunzel fable. Tangled really is probably a stronger film if it's stands alone, but just sucks that Flynn and Rapunzel are my fave Disney characters, it's a shame not to see them again. (Although more cameos - like in Frozen - are appreciated.)


Frozen... I dunno, I thought it was good, but not quite as great as I was expecting and don't really get why it's so huge.

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1431568)
Frozen was such a big hit partly because it's emotional story rang true. Elsa has been a repressed woman finally able to embrace her own individuality. (I really wish she had been the protagonist instead of Anna... Anna was boring in comparison.) Knowing quite a few repressed women, this movie really resounded with me and above-mentioned women.

See I think what actually does not appeal to me about Frozen is the fact that although Elsa is able to find freedom and self acceptance for who she is, which is great and all... but in order to do so, she has to go live alone in continued isolation on a mountain. Granted she's not there at the end, but to me, that message didn't ring well.

Tangled however resonates with me more because Mother Gothel unfortunately has some traits similar to my mother and Rapunzel gains a lot by breaking free. Plus I love that Flynn and Rapunzel equally save each others ass in different ways, they both gain.


Edit: On the sexuality topic... I have no issue with it if Disney decides that one of their characters is a lesbian - however I would not want to see it done simply at the expense of a belief that being single is not ok for one of their characters unless she's a 'bad guy.'

Either way, who's she going to date, a guy or girl with a fire power problem? Someone she can't really freeze? lol

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 04:22 PM

One other thing I forgot to mention: if Elsa were to come out as a lesbian, that could very well be handled in as much the same vein as the first film, i.e. female empowerment. From a story point of view, that could easily make sense and be well done.

But does Disney have the cajones to do that? I very much doubt it. They're in the business of making money, and to do that, you avoid controversy when and where possible. Making their biggest character ever a lesbian would be a huge controversy, due to current political demographics and beliefs, and so will not happen.

TheSkeletonMan939 03-12-2015 04:33 PM

Frozen didn't really connect with me. I feel like it fell apart near the ending... and I still don't know what the purpose of those weird gremlin people is.

It was a good movie, but had room for improvement. I'm not surprised Disney is exploiting its popularity, though.

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Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands? (Post 1431523)
Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

Lots of old women thought so.

There are like a dozen news stories (I use the term "news" generously) about old ladies complaining about how it was so obvious that Anna and Elsa had the hots for each other.

Even though the two are sisters.

And clearly love each other in a sisterly way.

:ohwell:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1431578)
Lots of old women thought so.

There are like a dozen news stories (I use the term "news" generously) about old ladies complaining about how it was so obvious that Anna and Elsa had the hots for each other.

Even though the two are sisters.

And clearly love each other in a sisterly way.

:ohwell:

They clearly never had sisters they loved. Which is sad and pitiable. It seems perfectly obvious to anyone who has ever experienced or witnessed a normal loving sibling relationship. :trolleye:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1431569)
See I think what actually does not appeal to me about Frozen is the fact that although Elsa is able to find freedom and self acceptance for who she is, which is great and all... but in order to do so, she has to go live alone in continued isolation on a mountain. Granted she's not there at the end, but to me, that message didn't ring well.

Tangled however resonates with me more because Mother Gothel unfortunately has some traits similar to my mother and Rapunzel gains a lot by breaking free. Plus I love that Flynn and Rapunzel equally save each others ass in different ways, they both gain.

Seeing how in my personal experiences, leaving a particular community to gain freedom and self acceptance has been the only way to escape repression, I found it completely believable and relatable. But as always, personal experience influences perception.

CyberCubed 03-12-2015 05:06 PM

I'm surprised some of you don't know this. Tons of lesbian women and LGBT people have been praising Frozen and Elsa's character for being the first potential gay character in a Disney film. Its quite possible Disney will go in this direction in the sequel. Elsa gets a female love interest and moviegoers are shocked about Disney "pioneering" a gay relationship in a children's movie.

We're in 2015, people, its not that farfetched to think a lesbian princess in a Disney movie could possibly happen. We're not in 1992 anymore.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1431587)
I'm surprised some of you don't know this. Tons of lesbian women and LGBT people have been praising Frozen and Elsa's character for being the first potential gay character in a Disney film. Its quite possible Disney will go in this direction in the sequel. Elsa gets a female love interest and moviegoers are shocked about Disney "pioneering" a gay relationship in a children's movie.

We're in 2015, people, its not that farfetched to think a lesbian princess in a Disney movie could possibly happen. We're not in 1992 anymore.

Nobody's saying it's far-fetched or impossible. I'm personally arguing that they (Disney) may not go this route in fear of under-performing financially or potential criticism from certain demographics.

CyberCubed 03-12-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1431590)
Nobody's saying it's far-fetched or impossible. I'm personally arguing that they (Disney) may not go this route in fear of under-performing financially or potential criticism from certain demographics.

The only people who will complain and refuse to take their kids to see it is hardcore Christian Soccer Moms who are living 50 years in the past and are afraid to expose "Little Timmy" to the real world. Everyone else won't care.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1431592)
The only people who will complain and refuse to take their kids to see it is hardcore Christian Soccer Moms who are living 50 years in the past and are afraid to expose "Little Timmy" to the real world. Everyone else won't care.

Given same-sex marriage is still illegal in a number of states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-se..._United_States) and continues to be a hot-button political issue, I don't think you can dismiss the potential financial ramifications to Disney so easily.

NinjaPug 03-12-2015 05:39 PM

Of course they're making a sequel. No chance Disney is going to leave $1 billion on the table (and that's not including $ from merchandise).

I liked the first one but was pretty let down based on all the hype surrounding it. I also don't really see where they can with a sequel but I'm still in.

senpai 03-12-2015 10:00 PM

I don't understand the big fuss over Frozen. I thought it was a good movie when I first saw it but I was also a bit let down due to the hype. I was expecting something much better.

If I was going to see a Disney sequel of anything, I wish it'd be Tangled. I thought Tangled was amazing! Totally beats Frozen, imho.

NinjaPug 03-12-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by senpai (Post 1431682)
If I was going to see a Disney sequel of anything, I wish it'd be Tangled. I thought Tangled was amazing! Totally beats Frozen, imho.

My first thought from this news was that I'd rather have a sequel to Wreck-It Ralph.

CyberCubed 03-12-2015 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1431690)
My first thought from this news was that I'd rather have a sequel to Wreck-It Ralph.

wasn't that already confirmed?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-12-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1431712)
wasn't that already confirmed?

Other than saying they are definitely going to do one, nothing has been said.

BabyTurtles 03-12-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1431690)
My first thought from this news was that I'd rather have a sequel to Wreck-It Ralph.

That and Big Hero 6. (even though it just came out)

Why does Frozen need a sequel? :ohwell:

but Disney isn't dumb they know Frozen makes money and will do anything to milk it.

I mean have you seen the trailer to Cinderella?? The Frozen short is all over it.

Peanut 03-13-2015 01:26 AM

How about who the f*ck cares about her sexual preference unless it's a main story point? Which it won't be.

Also, Wreck-It-Ralph was schlocky trash. Don't inflict another one of those on the world.

MsMarvelDuckie 03-13-2015 01:51 AM

I'm ambivalent about this news. Still haven't seen the first one, and I'm already SICK of that d**med song. Seriously, it's all over you-tube, Glee, and everywhere else. Makes me want to AVOID the movie that spawned it, and I don't usually feel that way about music from Disney movies. Honestly, I'd rather they do a sequel to Hercules or The Princess and the Frog. Or maybe Tangled, like others have suggested.

BabyTurtles 03-13-2015 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1431752)
I'm ambivalent about this news. Still haven't seen the first one, and I'm already SICK of that d**med song. Seriously, it's all over you-tube, Glee, and everywhere else. Makes me want to AVOID the movie that spawned it, and I don't usually feel that way about music from Disney movies. Honestly, I'd rather they do a sequel to Hercules or The Princess and the Frog. Or maybe Tangled, like others have suggested.

The movie wasn't bad :3 but it is VERY over-rated XD....

just watch it for fun and you'll most likely enjoy it for what it is~

the songs do get stuck in your head though....it took 2 years but I'm finally done singing it.

Candy Kappa 03-13-2015 02:28 AM

They could do a movie that actually is a closer adaptation of HC Andersen's story, since it was completely stripped and butchered. I like Frozen, but it's not a very faithful adaptation. They could introduce the people of color they erased from the story.

And I'm curious of what other Norwegian tourists attraction is going to lie righ next to Arendelle. :lol:

MsMarvelDuckie 03-13-2015 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1431756)
The movie wasn't bad :3 but it is VERY over-rated XD....

just watch it for fun and you'll most likely enjoy it for what it is~

the songs do get stuck in your head though....it took 2 years but I'm finally done singing it.


Oh, I'm sure it's decent, I just don't have any interest in it. What little I DID have when it came out has died- thanks largely to that song.

IndigoErth 03-13-2015 03:19 AM

Song's ok, if played out a bit. I mostly avoided it before finally seeing the movie several months ago so I'm not quite at "Let it go" fatigue level. But even then it's old news.

I do however enjoy the "Will you help me hide a body?" parody song. :tlol:

AT-Man 03-13-2015 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1431587)
We're in 2015, people, its not that farfetched to think a lesbian princess in a Disney movie could possibly happen. We're not in 1992 anymore.

Elsa is a queen, not a princess.

BabyTurtles 03-13-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1431771)
Oh, I'm sure it's decent, I just don't have any interest in it. What little I DID have when it came out has died- thanks largely to that song.

I know, people will not let that song go!

Elsa singing that song and doing her ice powers was the best part of the movie though XD Not even gonna lie.

Sometimes I feel the movie is only loved for the songs and not because of the story.

Sumac 03-14-2015 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1431747)
Also, Wreck-It-Ralph was schlocky trash. Don't inflict another one of those on the world.

Never thought, that I'll agree on something with this user, but I concur: Wreck-It-Ralph left less than a good impression.

snake 03-14-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1432155)
Never thought, that I'll agree on something with this user, but I concur: Wreck-It-Ralph left less than a good impression.

You type like a thesaurus.

Peanut 03-14-2015 11:11 AM

I like when people I don't know exist, and have never interacted with, have some preconceived notions of me that lead them to say sh*t like that.

Mew 03-14-2015 11:27 AM

I'm not wasting time and money on that. I mean it's just gonna be a cheap cash-in.
Just like Toy Story 4. They're just milking the franchise. :ohwell:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-14-2015 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1432155)
Never thought, that I'll agree on something with this user, but I concur: Wreck-It-Ralph left less than a good impression.

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1432192)
You type like a thesaurus.

Au contraire; he types like an educated individual.


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