2003 Show's Nick Releases
 

*Sigh* It's a start, I suppose. Can't say that it isn't frustrating that we had to wait SOOOO long for this show to hit DVD again only for the releases to be back to square one in terms of approach, though. Hope this means good things for potential season sets in the future.

So let me get this straight, Nick is finally releasing 2k3 DVDs but they're doing them out of order and with random episodes again?

Man, this show just cannot win.

Even if they're in-order, 3 episodes per disc means 50+ volumes for all 150+ episodes?

I'm wondering why they couldn't fit 6 episodes per disc like the 2012 DVD release. Maybe they are single-layer DVD5 instead of dual-layer DVD9 to save cost.

Although I hope the Nick release has higher bitrate video than the 4Kids release, and possibly 5.1 audio track. We'll see.

They're also skipped around, aren't they? Search for Splinter was the name of the 2-part Season 1 finale.

Read the article. Their guess is that the first volume contains episode 21-23 (Return to New York 3-parter) and the second volume contains episode 24-26 (Lone Raph and Cub and The Search for Splinter 2-parter). If that the case (and once they release more volumes for episodes 1-20 later) then it wouldn't be out-of-order per se.

I'm more puzzled that there seems to be no numbering system like the 4Kids Volume 1, 2, 3... 14 then 3.1, 3.2, 3.3... etc. Do they expect people to look up Wikipedia to know how the episodes they are buying fit into the series' continuity?

Sigh...

And THIS is why a lot of us use YouTube to enjoy the show instead of buying +50 DVDs. Seriously, how hard is it to release a television show in just normal frakking season sets? Or hell, two sets per season like the Doctor Who releases?

I've been waiting for this show to get a re-release and now that there's an announcement for it I have to say that I will be skipping it unless there's a proper release. I won't buy random episodes. I truly want to support the releases (to guarantee future releases) but if it's just going to be random eps thrown together then it's a definite no-sale for me.

One of 3 things will have to happen for me to buy:

1)Volume discs (in order) covering the entire series
2)Season sets
3)A Complete Series set (preferable)

Any of the 3 are acceptable, but no random discs, which they most likely will only release a few of, then stop completely.

Damn.... damn....damn! I'm so very disappointed at this news. :(

Why is it that most previous incarnations of TMNT are such a pain in the shell to collect? The 2003 cartoon is scattered across 30 or 40 DVDs, and that appears not be changing anytime soon.

And the Tales of the TMNT volumes are collected in order of publication, not according to storyline. For example, if I want to collect the storyline involving Leatherhead and the Replicants plus Hamato Hana, which is issues #8, 23, and 34, I think, I buy Tales of the TMNT Volume 4 TPB, then wait YEARS for further volumes.

... Which is a lot like the way we had to wait for Mirage to actually conclude the storylines (if they ever bothered to, which wasn't often), depressingly enough.

Sometimes it sucks to be a fan. :tlol:

I feel your pain... myself, I would prefer Option #2, just because I only would want to own the first four seasons. It also might let Nick make a little more money, which I'm totally okay with--if they weren't insulting us with slapping random episodes into single DVD packages. :trolleye:

It's a start. I guess. But seriously? Out of order. AGAIN! At least the episodes are chronologically numbered 20-26. But why wouldn't they be smart enough to release the first part of the season first. Hopefully this means that the show might be shown on UK TV. That'd make me so happy!

What the hell is this sh*t? Nobody's gonna buy that.

Actually there are only 26 volumes to collect:

• Volume 1-8 (Season 1)
• Volume 9-14 (Season 2)
• 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 4 (Season 3 & 4)
• Michelangelo's Christmas Rescue
• Ninja Tribunal (Season 5)
• Fast Forward v1, v2 (Season 6)

Even if you include the two Back to the Sewer volumes (Season 7) from Australia, there are only 28 total volumes, not 30 or 40.

Yeah it's pretty crap. Confused parents maybe?

You know what would have been better? Seven boxsets. Even better, one complete series collection.

Why do people here want DVD's anyways? Why not just watch it on youtube? Plug your laptop to your TV and problem solved.

Because that's illegal.

Because the youtube uploads are complete garbage in quality, and the only reason I put up with them is that I have no legal option. :ohwell:

Plus, I'd like to have the 2003 series sitting on my shelf (beyond the volumes I do have) alongside the 80's toon, Next Mutation, and the Nickelodeon series, all of which have had much more respectable releases comparatively.

and also it's pretty poor quality. I don't mind watching it on a small window on the pc, but there's no way I'd want to watch them on my tv from a crappy youtube feed. Heck, I find it hard to watch most dvd's anymore...been spoiled by HD and blu-ray. I rarely buy a dvd...the Nick turtles being one of the recent exceptions (which really SHOULD BE on blu!!).

its not illegal there are tons of Cartoon shows on youtube to watch. If it was Illegal Youtube would have them all taken down and accounts suspended.

I watched the first season of 2003 turtles on youtube.

besides that show came out in 2003 so its old

You're confusing companies legally putting their shows up on youtube compared to fans uploaded episodes on youtube. There are official shows on youtube based on official channels, that's why you see stuff up there.

Shows that are put up by fans on youtube are technically illegal. I doubt any of us really care about that, but its a shame we have to resort to youtube rather than proper DVD releases

Screw this.

If this is how Nick is going to release this show then they're not getting a single damn penny from me... unless they include an isolated score and/or 5.1 audio mix.

What the hell are they even thinking? It's not Spongebob, it's not like each episode is self-contained. There are story arcs and timelines and stuff. At least 4Kids' releases were tentatively in an understandable order, even if it wasn't chronological.

First you release the short version of Turtles Forever in full screen and now this BS. Come on Nick, at least try a little.

Of course it's illegal.

tmntuploader had his account removed since he had every episode of the 4Kids series on there, as did ForeverMutation. I've even had one or two of my videos removed with 4Kids content.

Just because people do it doesn't mean it isn't illegal.

What I also don't get is why they're seemingly releasing the last 6 episodes of Season 1 first? Apparently its the "Return to New York" 3 parter and then "Lone Raph and Cub" with "Search for Splinter." so the last 6 Season 1 episodes.

I mean its exactly the same as the 4kids DVDs from 2003 that released only 3 eps per disc. Did we time travel back to 2003 or something? When was the last time 3 episodes per DVD was considered acceptable...over a decade ago?

Yes...it IS illegal unless the actual copyright holder is the one posting them. CyberCubed is exactly right.

Yes...it is a shame that's how we have to watch this show. I rarely watch a youtube video, but I have been watching this series with my 5 year old on youtube as it's the only way to watch it. Unfortunately I didn't watch the show when it originally aired, so I desperately want a video release of this!!

I have all the episodes downloaded to my computer but I am part of the "old guard" that prefers watching stuff on TV with physical discs.

I dislike streaming media and I only watch things on the computer if I have to. Nothing beats sitting down in a chair and watching a blu-ray/DVD on your big-screen TV.

I hate the itunes generation that's phasing out physical media forcing us to watch shows on our tiny phones or ipads.

Exactly. Streaming things have lower bitrates - and therefore lower quality - than physical media. Even if it's convenient sometimes, it shouldn't be the be-all end-all.

Did you know that CD audio is far superior to anything that you can get on iTunes?

Same goes for film. You can't tell on your silly iPhones/iPads, but there's a lot of pixelation and degradation in a film/TV show from being encoded to fit on a mobile device. If I were a filmmaker, I'd be a little disheartened to see people watching my movie - which I put a lot of time and money into creating, with lots of thought and consideration into the details - on their tiny, stupid iPhone screen.

Maybe when most people's internet connections get ultra-fast, physical media will have less of a purpose for existence in terms of A/V quality. But for now they're here to stay.

But there's also the practical reason of having a feeling of "owning" the media through the possession of a disc. I have lots of music on my computer that I don't have a physical CD for, and it doesn't feel like I really "have" the music. If I had the proper materials I might try to print out a few CD labels and jewel case inserts to put them in, but I don't have the time nor the interest to go through all that.

I think people who want to keep all their media - photos, music, video, and even books - "in the cloud" are tacky hipsters.

TL;DR - I whine about iTunes being low-quality.

If you prefer watching on a television to watching on a computer, then why did you switch from watching this show on dvd to watching it on computer?

To Nickelodeon.

Piss On You.
Piss on Your POS DVD's.
Piss on your 'out of order, only 3 episodes per Disc' crap that Nobody will Buy.
Piss on 'nope, no Season Boxsets.'
Piss on you not giving a flying crap about the 2003 show.
Piss on you for not just letting it go to another company who could maybe DO something with the release.
Piss on you Royally Screwing This Up.
Piss on Your Own Face, Nick.

Three words:

Pride.
Of.
Ownership.

:tcool:

Do you realize how mind-bogglingly hard it is to find DVDs for this series, let alone be able to purchase them? Some of the harder-to-find ones go for over 100 bucks!!

Nick doesn't need to do a lot to get my money. If they just picked up where 4Kids left off with half-season releases, I'd buy them. If they just released a soundtrack CD, I'd buy it. If they just released one DVD that had nothing but special features, I'd buy it.

I don't even care if they make a special box set or not. All they need to do is do a competent job at releasing... something! and I'd swallow it up, as would others.

They probably did it that way because they also were releasing on VHS still way back when, and didn't want to undercut their own profits by offering the situation of "buy 12 VHS tapes or 1 DVD set at significantly less". Instead, they offered "buy 12 VHS tapes or 12 DVD disks at pretty much the same cost."

Totally with you, CC. Pride of ownership to me means that I can actually hold something in my sticky sweaty hands. No downloads, please. :tlol:

Like Shout! Factory.

Dammit Nickelodeon, just put out Back to the Sewer in a complete set. No, just put out the whole damn series in a complete set, and make sure you've got the episodes IN THE CORRECT ORDER.

And yes, I'm an old fossil who actually likes having things on a physical format.

Basically everything I would've said has already been said. I was ready to jump on these til I saw "Each single-disc volume includes 3 first season episodes" - hmmmm. Think I'll pass on that one.

When companies do stupid stuff like this...this is the kind of crap that promotes bootlegging and illegal stuff.

Instead of doing the Field of Dreams thing of 'if you build it, they will come'...we just get crap after crap releases. Crappy release of Turtles Forever, and crappy releases of the 2003 show.

Pass until they do it right. I gave up years ago and tracked down all the dvd's i was missing. It wasn't so bad since I already had all of the multi-disk sets.

The cover art on these is a real turn off. The previous DVD releases may not have amazing covers, but at least they grab your attention and weren't an eyesore to look at.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120210.../dvd_toons.htm

Yeah I think I'll just stick with the collection I have now if that's okay with everybody.

What makes it sadder is that Nick probably thinks it's throwing us a bone by doing this when that bone just isn't in any good condition to be chewed.

Yeah it's a bone that just leaves splinters. (No pun intended.)

This is absolute crap. I'm dying for a 2k3 release and there's no way in hell I'm buying this. I can already see how this will play out - the crappy release won't sell well, they'll take it as a sign that nobody's interested in 2k3 anymore and they won't bother releasing the whole set.

ARGH!!!! :tmad:

Nickelodeon gives with one hand and takes away with the other. :tgrumble:

Yeah, especially the later covers that didn't have stock poses of the characters and had original artwork that actually depicted the episodes they had.

Bu--but... Nickelodeon... why... why can't you do this..?
Come on, Nick. 3 episodes a disc is one thing (and for god's sake, we had enough of that **** when the show was going on), but out of order? Seriously?
I feel like Nick is doing this to spite us. Oh, you waited since 2005 or so for an actual season release of this show? Too bad! We're going to give you more of the bullsh*t you had to put up with before. Just... no.
You did it with Avatar. You did it with Korra. You even slightly did it with your own TMNT series. Is it so hard to just release the damn episodes season by season? Just have a Season 1 set, a Season 2 set, so on and so forth. Is that so f*cking hard?!
Geez. This post started off so calm, but the more this sets in, the more it pisses me off.
Oh, and in case you're wondering if I'm planning on buying this (if you need it spelled out for you), no f*cking way.