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Xav 04-06-2015 05:04 PM

What do you dislike most about the 2014 film?
 
If you had to pick one thing you dislike most about the 2014 film what would it be?

IndigoErth 04-06-2015 05:27 PM

Just one? Gah, that's hard. Ok, strictly looking at the whole movie (as opposed to another disliked aspect that's character spacific):

The April Movie
guest starring TMNT



AKA perspective. (Blame it on writing or directing, take your pick.)

TurtleTitan97 04-06-2015 05:32 PM

Hard to say, since I felt that everything about this film sucked. But if I had to choose just 1 thing, it's the writing. That really sucked.

Powder 04-06-2015 06:28 PM

The writing.

The script is the reason everyone is interconnected, that there are unnecessary/changed characters, that the characterization is off, that the turtles having been super soldier lab experiments who learned their moves from a pamphlet in a language none of them know how to read, that humans are the stars, etc. Virtually everything bad short of the designs are the fault of those who conceptualized/wrote the film. & it's just got straight up bad dialogue, to make matters worse.

The editing & cinematography were average, I guess, barring plotholes (which again, are fault of the writing). The directing, well, I dunno that any director could have saved the film. Some of the actors are talented people, but they had a bum script. You can't make a bum script work, no matter how good you are, with or without competent direction. The designs really rubbed me the wrong way from the very beginning, but after sitting through that film, they were practically the least offensive thing about it, ironically, as they were what initially had fans waging a war against the production team.

pennydreadful 04-06-2015 06:56 PM

If I had to pick just one, I'd have to say the writing also.

senpai 04-06-2015 06:59 PM

My vote was for the writing. But it's hard to choose just one considering how important each one is when making a film.

shuriken 04-06-2015 07:06 PM

The Actors did a decent job with what they had.
The DIrector did what he could.
The Designs were... gross at best.
Probably the writing. Although the editors could not pace a film for squat. It's all over the place. Although editing is harder for a badly written film so Writing.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-06-2015 07:13 PM

The writing... although maybe it could be said to be the editing.

Specifically,
  • Eric Sachs and the Shredder
  • No backstory for Hamato Yoshi/Splinter
  • Learning ninjitsu from a book
  • Vern F'ing Fenwick
  • Sachs' "stupid rich" scheme
  • Mutagen as a cure to obvious poison gas

Those were my main gripes about the movie.

I didn't hate Megan Fox as April, and I mostly liked the Turtles' new designs. Well, except for being seven-foot-tall giants.

Shark_Blade 04-06-2015 07:44 PM

Writing/plot sequence could be better.

April is perfect though. :tlove:

Eiko 04-06-2015 08:57 PM

The writing mostly, plus no idea why they just did not just have Sachs be Baxter. instead of making a boring no point character.

TrickOrTreater 04-06-2015 09:06 PM

All of it. Every last bit.

Jester 04-06-2015 09:11 PM

I'll throw my hat in with "writing" because like has been said, all the stage direction, dialogue, action beats, all of it is from the script.

Bry 04-06-2015 09:24 PM

Yyyeah. Writing, lumped in as "general 'creative' decisions". The plot/script was the first domino in a long, ugly trail of awful decisions.

Commenter 42 04-06-2015 09:31 PM

You could point to the editor, and blame them, but after seeing the outages, and what they shot, the writing was terrible.

But so was everything else. Everything on the list sucked.

I still voted designs, because they are the most heart breaking.

IndigoErth 04-06-2015 10:15 PM

Dunno if editors would be directly to blame, wouldn't the director or Bay or someone probably still check in on how that's going and give direction?

Poor editors probably got handed footage and went:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tWFIY4lWPi...unpleasant.gif

http://media.tumblr.com/30f0000ee7d5...Dse1qz4rgp.gif

'Course... if they're Bay company editors by chance then they probably understand the..."process."

MsMarvelDuckie 04-06-2015 11:40 PM

I went with writing. Overall, I had few issues with the movie, but the ones I DID have were all in the writing and especially some of the plot holes, the villains' "scheme", and Sachs' dialog in particular. Everything else, I was fine with. Unlike most, I had few problems with the character designs, in fact, once I got over the "oddness" of their looks, I actually liked them. Except for the size. But yeah, my biggest issues with the movie were in the script.

Kanon 04-07-2015 03:27 AM

I went with writing.
I AM on the lovers side, but even I can“t defend the stupid Idea how they learned ninjutsu from a book. When I heard that I was like:

http://media3.giphy.com/media/5psA7b1ijEWDS/giphy.gif

Jester 04-07-2015 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Sacks
I want you to drain every ounce of their blood, even if it kills them!


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Shark_Blade 04-07-2015 05:58 AM

Eric Sacks is a great actor despite the occasional bad lines and writing he's been given. :tlol:
"Draining their blood even if it kills them" line could be looked at as him being pure sarcastic.

"You two are so cute I could pinch your cheeks" *starts shooting gun* .. I guess he forgot how to martial art. Ah bless.:tlol:

turtlefanforever 04-07-2015 07:15 AM

hmm
 
i pretty much hate everything equally. But has to be writing. The plot and everything. How it focus' almost souley on 'April'. The turtles wouldn't have been in the movie at all if they were somehow involved in her life. Literally they could make the second movie without them and be all about april and it could seem the right thing because of how much they focused on her in the movie.

Can't help but think the movie would be slightly even if it's an infinitesimal amount less cringe-worthy if the designs weren't so bad though. It'd still be godawful, but at least we wouldn't have to be pissed off about big hulking turtles the whole time.

massakre 04-07-2015 07:30 AM

The writing.. easily the writing.

LeotheLateBloomer 04-07-2015 10:26 AM

Which episode of the OT is that from and what caused them to facepalm?

For me, The writing and inconsistency with the tone.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-07-2015 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1441777)
Eric Sacks is a great actor despite the occasional bad lines and writing he's been given. :tlol:
"Draining their blood even if it kills them" line could be looked at as him being pure sarcastic.

"You two are so cute I could pinch your cheeks" *starts shooting gun* .. I guess he forgot how to martial art. Ah bless.:tlol:

I do actually love that line, and have used it on multiple occasions... which always results in baffled stares and awkward silences. :tlol:

IndigoErth 04-07-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1441765)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Sacks
I want you to drain every ounce of their blood, even if it kills them!


Yes, Eric, yes, that is how that works.

Clearly someone, being the surrogate son of Shredder, was able to simply buy his grades in college through persuasion.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-07-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1441853)
Yes, Eric, yes, that is how that works.

Clearly someone, being the surrogate son of Shredder, was able to simply buy his grades in college through persuasion.

Because are YOU going to be the one to flunk Oroku Saki's adopted son for failing Biology? Didn't think so.

Warhorse 04-18-2015 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1441788)
i pretty much hate everything equally. But has to be writing. The plot and everything. How it focus' almost souley on 'April'. The turtles wouldn't have been in the movie at all if they were somehow involved in her life. Literally they could make the second movie without them and be all about april and it could seem the right thing because of how much they focused on her in the movie.

Can't help but think the movie would be slightly even if it's an infinitesimal amount less cringe-worthy if the designs weren't so bad though. It'd still be godawful, but at least we wouldn't have to be pissed off about big hulking turtles the whole time.

This, because even Star Wars Episode 1 had bad writing, but it was easily overlooked because we got great action scenes and nobody in the movie looked terribly revolting, unlike TMNT 14. I agree, if the Turtles didn't look so hideous, I might have given the movie more of a chance, but they just went too OTT and overboard with the designs that it constantly took me out of the movie.

The writing would be a close second, but because of the horrible designs, we can't even get a decent GIF out of the crap. Leo would have been the only one that looked remotely normal, too bad they didn't use his model and just changed the sizes, mass and eye color.

Jester 04-18-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1441837)
Which episode of the OT is that from and what caused them to facepalm?

The Foot Soldiers are Revolting. Short answer to why is Mikey. Can't remember the specifics.

IndigoErth 04-18-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1445695)
This, because even Star Wars Episode 1 had bad writing, but it was easily overlooked because we got great action scenes and nobody in the movie looked terribly revolting, unlike TMNT 14. I agree, if the Turtles didn't look so hideous, I might have given the movie more of a chance, but they just went too OTT and overboard with the designs that it constantly took me out of the movie.

The writing would be a close second, but because of the horrible designs, we can't even get a decent GIF out of the crap. Leo would have been the only one that looked remotely normal, too bad they didn't use his model and just changed the sizes, mass and eye color.

It always bugged me last year when people would be like "they're mutants, aren't they supposed to look bad?" Where is the rule that mutation has to come out badly? :trazz: If you're not going to aim to keep at least a small degree of cuteness or otherwise visual appeal that they've had more often than not in their 31 years, then you better write them damn good and work pretty hard to make them endearing to the audience. Centering the story on frigging April does not help matters. They tried to endear HER to the audience with the flashback. *facepalm*

Leo being my fave, I'm sorta grateful he won out a little comparatively speaking. There's still reasons/moments related to him that I want to take a torch to the film makers for.

There's select moments though... The "Uh, well, Miss, we're ninjas," and then throws that quick slight smile shortly after (blink and ya miss it), I admit kinda melts my heart. Clinging to those parts... trying to forget the parts that make me say "Nope."

graphic_content 04-22-2015 03:02 PM

The thing that irks me everytime I see this movie, is the scene in the subway when Karai is firing on a charging Leonardo, his footsteps echoing - while I was onboard with the designs, it bothered me that they seemed to rely more on their size that actual martial technique to down their foes. Raphael especially.

and yes, the definition of martial technique is debatable - but in my head, its the difference between the Hulk fighting, versus Captain America. The latter being what I would prefer to see.


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