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CyberCubed 04-14-2015 12:52 PM

What are some touchy subjects you never debate in real life?
 
What are some touchy subjects you never debate in real life? For me its the following:

- Religion (let everyone believe what they want, anyone debating or enforcing their religious belief onto others are fools)

- Politics (why bother?)

- Gay rights (let everyone live how they want to live, I support equal rights for everyone and leave it at that)

- Sports (I generally have no interest in following professional sports of any kind, so when people start talking to me about Baseball, Basketball and Football and "Did you see the game last night?" I don't really have anything to say. I also know how fanatical some people can get about their favorite sports team, its ridiculous)


What about you?

Prowler 04-14-2015 12:56 PM

Don't think there's really any in particular. I do have to watch my mouth when it comes to politics or religion though, because some people get easily offended over them. Sports, soccer in specific, can lead to nasty arguments as well, especially with fans of rival teams. Honestly, I think soccer is the most divisive subject in my country. I don't think even political or religious discussions match it.

plastroncafe 04-14-2015 01:02 PM

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Prowler 04-14-2015 01:04 PM

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Yea, there really isn't much to discuss about. Pretty much everyone is gonna mention what you're not allowed to discuss in these forums. But this is CyberCubed we're talking about. He always finds a way to make his threads stay open and active despite all the controversy surrounding them.

Leo656 04-14-2015 01:05 PM

I'll rap about anything, I don't care. Sometimes it's hard to find a willing co-participant depending on the subject, but I don't see why people can't just talk. I mean, they can't, we've all seen that, but it makes no sense to me.

I really don't ever talk about sports, but that's because I know nothing about them so I'd have nothing to contribute to that conversation.

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1444248)
Yea, there really isn't much to discuss about. Pretty much everyone is gonna mention what you're not allowed to discuss in these forums. But this is CyberCubed we're talking about. He always finds a way to make his threads stay open and active despite all the controversy surrounding them.

He's the hero this place deserves. :lol:

Prowler 04-14-2015 01:08 PM

Believe it or not, sports can really ruin friendships. So you guys can consider yourselves lucky for not liking them. That and having your weekend ruined if your team loses an important game. I kinda envy you for not having to deal with that.

CyberCubed 04-14-2015 01:09 PM

I don't see the problem here, there are a lot of subjects people would never discuss in real life and feel "safer" discussing on forums instead since you're not face to face with someone.

On a forum you can end an argument by simply leaving a thread and clicking the "close" button, but in real life a debate can be pretty heated especially if the guy you're talking with refuses to back down or won't let the conversation end.

Prowler 04-14-2015 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1444254)
I don't see the problem here, there are a lot of subjects people would never discuss in real life and feel "safer" discussing on forums instead since you're not face to face with someone.

On a forum you can end an argument by simply leaving a thread and clicking the "close" button, but in real life a debate can be pretty heated especially if the guy you're talking with refuses to back down or won't let the conversation end.

This has been addressed before. I even talked to Leo about it before and he pretty much said what he did in his post above. "People can't talk". But yea, it'd be nice to discuss such controversial subjects here. This is the only forum I know that doesn't allow such discussions.

And people are more prone to insult each other behind the keyboard. In real life, face to face, people are more humble and less aggressive because, you know, they're shyer and don't want to risk getting into a physical altercation.

Leo656 04-14-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1444253)
Believe it or not, sports can really ruin friendships. So you guys can consider yourselves lucky for not liking them. That and having your weekend ruined if your team loses an important game. I kinda envy you for not having to deal with that.

I'm not a sports fan per se, but I am a Mets fan.

That is to say, I exist in a perpetual state of frustration and despair. :tgrumble:

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1444258)
In real life, face to face, people are more humble and less aggressive because, you know, they're shyer and don't want to risk getting into a physical altercation.

And if they're NOT, you slap on the Camel Clutch and MAKE them humble, Jabroni! :tgrin:

Prowler 04-14-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1444259)
I'm not a sports fan per se, but I am a Mets fan.

That is to say, I exist in a perpetual state of frustration and despair. :tgrumble:

Many people here like a certain team but don't really follow it. They just watch a game or two a season and claim to be happy when their team wins something. But when it loses, they don't really care much. I blame society for pressuring people to be into sports. If someone doesn't want to be into sports or support a certain team then let them do as they please. I'm not one of those assholes who thinks you're less of a man because you don't like sports.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-14-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1444249)
I'll rap about anything, I don't care. Sometimes it's hard to find a willing co-participant depending on the subject, but I don't see why people can't just talk. I mean, they can't, we've all seen that, but it makes no sense to me.

I really don't ever talk about sports, but that's because I know nothing about them so I'd have nothing to contribute to that conversation.



He's the hero this place deserves. :lol:

... But not the one it needs right now. :tlol:

MsMarvelDuckie 04-14-2015 02:56 PM

My hot-button topics? Religion (for obvious reasons, considering mine is often targetted as "devil-worship" by fools who don't know the dang differnce), gay rights, and abortion. I'm a supporter of both the latter two, but many people treat those subjects like the Plague.

Jephael 04-14-2015 03:04 PM

The act of sex itself is one that many people have a hard time discussing. What's funny though is how it can lead to so many different subjects. Sadly our society has a very poor outlook on the matter these days due to all the controversy it stems.

Prowler 04-14-2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1444312)
The act of sex itself is one that many people have a hard time discussing. What's funny though is how it can lead to so many different subjects. Sadly our society has a very poor outlook on the matter these days due to all the controversy it stems.

Oh sex. How could I forget that one? Well, you see, I have nothing against sex or anything but I find it very rude to be asked directly about my sex life. Something annoying is having that friend who all of the sudden, brags about this one time he got a blowjob in his car or at a concert. I mean, do I really need to hear that?!

Candy Kappa 04-14-2015 03:12 PM

Not a touchy subject, but since I don't care about sports and know little to nothing about various sports and its teams, I don't partake in discussions about that.

CyberCubed 04-14-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1444318)
Oh sex. How could I forget that one? Well, you see, I have nothing against sex or anything but I find it very rude to be asked directly about my sex life. Something annoying is having that friend who all of the sudden, brags about this one time he got a blowjob in his car or at a concert. I mean, do I really need to hear that?!

Most of the time people are probably lying too. Like the guy who brags about having threesomes with two chicks every few months or something. Yeah right.

Prowler 04-14-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1444320)
Most of the time people are probably lying too. Like the guy who brags about having threesomes with two chicks every few months or something. Yeah right.

Well yea. We all lie sometimes, but at least have some tact. Nobody wants to hear about your sex life in public. Especially those dudes who tell others what they do with their gfs and wives in bed. What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. I'd never go around in public telling what me and my gf do in bed.

IndigoErth 04-14-2015 03:16 PM

Mostly just the subjects banned from many forums. Though I've never really been a debater in real life. Can't force opposing views to change and prefer to keep a difference of opinion brief.

Candy Kappa 04-14-2015 03:19 PM

I do try to remain quiet around my grandmother when it comes to religion, and her crazy American Mormon sister.

Jephael 04-14-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1444321)
Nobody wants to hear about your sex life in public. Especially those dudes who tell others what they do with their gfs and wives in bed. What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. I'd never go around in public telling what me and my gf do in bed.

OMG, I remember one winter in college I was hanging around with the radio station's current crew and we were talking about plans for New Years. Suddenly this girl sat back and said wistfully "I had the best sex last New Years." right in front of me and another dude who were just looking her like "Uh yea, that's great." She must've been drunk or high because most women I know don't brag about getting laid like that.

IndigoErth 04-14-2015 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1444327)
and said wistfully "I had the best sex last New Years."

I'd be thinking, "365 days in a year and it was only that good once, a year ago? Sorry to hear?" :tlol:

I'm sorry, but if someone feels the need to brag about something that most other people are out there doing as well, maybe they need a fuller life.

It's not like you have a wonderful rare condition that makes you crap bricks of gold. Proclaiming that you got laid is like saying you woke up and were still breathing. Yeah, us too.

DarthRaphael 04-14-2015 03:53 PM

Nothing wrong with this topic so far.

Politics and religion are the big two. Every other topic ends up under one of those two subjects. I only discuss these with like-minded individuals since I discovered that trying to change another person's beliefs is so very close to a completely futile act. This is especially true on the internet, but can be explosive and friendship ending in person.

Jephael 04-14-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthRaphael (Post 1444349)
I discovered that trying to change another person's beliefs is so very close to a completely futile act. This is especially true on the internet, but can be explosive and friendship ending in person.

Or worse... it can make enemies.

plastroncafe 04-14-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthRaphael (Post 1444349)
Nothing wrong with this topic so far.

Politics and religion are the big two. Every other topic ends up under one of those two subjects. I only discuss these with like-minded individuals since I discovered that trying to change another person's beliefs is so very close to a completely futile act. This is especially true on the internet, but can be explosive and friendship ending in person.

I make a habit of using beliefs as a way to measure the worthiness of someone to be my friend in the first place.

Someone who doesn't view me as an equal doesn't get the privilege of having me as a friend. Last thing I want to be is someone's "token ___" friend.

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1444348)
I'd be thinking, "365 days in a year and it was only that good once, a year ago? Sorry to hear?" :tlol:

I'm sorry, but if someone feels the need to brag about something that most other people are out there doing as well, maybe they need a fuller life.

It's not like you have a wonderful rare condition that makes you crap bricks of gold. Proclaiming that you got laid is like saying you woke up and were still breathing. Yeah, us too.

Why does sex get such special treatment?
I mean, what if she'd said: "I had the best burger last new years!"
It's not like everyone doesn't also have to eat every day. Or that she hadn't had another burger some other time during the last 365 days.
If she'd said that....I'm betting that it wouldn't be an anecdote anyone would remember years down the line, let alone something used to shame her with.

Someone says to you, "I had the best burger last New Years!" would your response be: "You need a more fuller life."
Or would it be: Seriously? Where! I love good burgers. Tell me about this burger.

Jephael 04-14-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1444353)
Why does sex get such special treatment?
I mean, what if she'd said: "I had the best burger last new years!"
It's not like everyone doesn't also have to eat every day. Or that she hadn't had another burger some other time during the last 365 days.
If she'd said that....I'm betting that it wouldn't be an anecdote anyone would remember years down the line, let alone something used to shame her with.

I blame the guys who wrote American Pie. They've forever warped our generation!

CyberCubed 04-14-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1444356)
I blame the guys who wrote American Pie. They've forever warped our generation!

It was actually 80's movies like Fast Times at Richmond High that started that

Jephael 04-14-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1444357)
It was actually 80's movies like Fast Times at Richmond High that started that

Yea, but AP took it further with the "M.I.L.F." jokes and pastry humping.

plastroncafe 04-14-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1444358)
Yea, but AP took it further with the "M.I.L.F." jokes and pastry humping.

Not that this is anywhere near what I'm talking about, but the pie scene? was so much more tame than the masturbation scene in Fast Times. A scene you'd never see in a PG movie these days.

Neither of these movies is responsible for the fact that sex and talk of sexuality is taboo. History and culture predate the 1980s.

Jephael 04-14-2015 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1444362)
Not that this is anywhere near what I'm talking about, but the pie scene? was so much more tame than the masturbation scene in Fast Times. A scene you'd never see in a PG movie these days.

Neither of these movies is responsible for the fact that sex and talk of sexuality is taboo. History and culture predate the 1980s.

Maybe not, but they sure haven't helped the issue either. There was that one part in the prom scene where Jason Bigg's character stood up to his horn-dog friend (the one going out with Tara Reid in the movie) on the matter of losing their virginity and it was a really good "after school special" kinda moment. Of course a few minutes later we see all four guys getting laid at Stifler's so it kinda makes that moment seem kinda like the writer's half-assed attempt at making the characters look like they have a conscience.

Cure 04-14-2015 04:47 PM

I'll discuss anything with friends and family. Doesn't matter. But one thing I don't discuss with them since none of us do them, is drugs. I know I shouldn't, but I just kinda get weirded out when other people discuss their drug habits openly.

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Maybe not, but they sure haven't helped the issue either. There was that one part in the prom scene where Jason Bigg's character stood up to his horn-dog friend (the one going out with Tara Reid in the movie) on the matter of losing their virginity and it was a really good "after school special" kinda moment. Of course a few minutes later we see all four guys getting laid at Stifler's so it kinda makes that moment seem kinda like the writer's half-assed attempt at making the characters look like they have a conscience.

What are you even going on about? Stop blaming movies because sex makes you feel icky. Plastron has a point.

Jephael 04-14-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1444371)
Stop blaming movies because sex makes you feel icky.

I never said sex makes me feel icky, but it has lead to some very awkward moments in my life. I actually did some thinking over dinner and realized certain television shows have done some pretty good stories around the issue. Ever watch that episode of South Park where they teach sex ed to elementary students? Pretty screwed up, but it ends with Chef teaching the town a valuable lesson.

pennydreadful 04-14-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1444353)
I make a habit of using beliefs as a way to measure the worthiness of someone to be my friend in the first place.

Someone who doesn't view me as an equal doesn't get the privilege of having me as a friend. Last thing I want to be is someone's "token ___" friend.

You and I so need to hang in real life. 8)

But no, I don't have topics I shy away from - no topics are off-limits with me. Instead, I have people I shy away from.

If I have to censor myself too much around someone then they're not a person I'll spend time talking to in general. Not so much a "need to surround myself with an echo chamber" as much as a preference for friendships that aren't hard work and discussion with people on my wavelength who respect my existence. If I have to watch my tongue talking about things that I'm passionate about (like queer rights, sexuality, social issues) - things that are important to me and make up part of who I am as a person - if it's something that's going to majorly stick in someone's craw, we're probably not cut out to be good friends anyway.

I'm not into sports at all, so I totally don't get the sports thing either. :ohwell:

IndigoErth 04-14-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1444381)
I'm not into sports at all, so I totally don't get the sports thing either. :ohwell:

*nod* People arguing about teams and carrying on and getting upset that their chosen team isn't winning...

Did I miss something? Do the losing teams get executed at the end of the season and they can't try again next year? :lol:

Jephael 04-14-2015 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1444387)
People arguing about teams and carrying on and getting upset that their chosen team isn't winning...

Did I miss something? Do the losing teams get executed at the end of the season and they can't try again next year?

You should meet my second cousin's husband. That is so him! He turns into a whiny little b*tch on Facebook every time the Philadelphia Eagles lose a game.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-14-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1444381)
But no, I don't have topics I shy away from - no topics are off-limits with me. Instead, I have people I shy away from.

Penny totally hit the nail on the head for me. If we're gonna do nothing but argue or think less of each other, if we can't have open honest agree-to-disagreements, then I don't need your **** in my life.

IndigoErth 04-14-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1444394)
You should meet my second cousin's husband. That is so him! He turns into a whiny little b*tch on Facebook every time the Philadelphia Eagles lose a game.

Oh yes, just south of the PA line so we're Eagles country down here too, I've got some Eagles fans on FB as well so I know what you mean. (Not to mention hear it from the other room.) Heaven forbid if they're playing against the Cowboys. lol

MsMarvelDuckie 04-14-2015 07:07 PM

I always root for the opposing team when the Cowboys play. Because I'm just THAT disgusted with football in general, and them in particular. I do like the Panthers, though.

plastroncafe 04-14-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1444381)
You and I so need to hang in real life. 8)

We should make this happen.
I'll even keep the Sox and Bruins talk to a minimum.
:D

Metalwolf 04-14-2015 07:58 PM

I think mine would be religion- "Oh you're a Christian? Oh you horrible fundies!"

And politics- When people assume that you have Same Sex Attraction automatically means that you are liberal, agnostic/atheist and automatically pro-gay marriage. Not every person with SSA or trans tendencies believes or feels the same way, even to the point of believing or feeling strongly about things that are against what others they 'should' feel.

Certain things about animals- Primarily the stuff 'justifying' why they have kept their dog or cat un-neutered, and anything where they mention that they will toss their animal out on the street if it even hisses or growls at their toddler, even thou odds are the toddler is allowed to get away with annoying or hurting the dog or cat.

Leo656 04-14-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1444353)
Someone says to you, "I had the best burger last New Years!" would your response be: "You need a more fuller life."
Or would it be: Seriously? Where! I love good burgers. Tell me about this burger.

This is funny to me, because as I read it, I was indeed eating, THE Best Burger. I made it. Double cheeseburger with sharp cheddar, lettuce, green pepper, onions, ketchup, mayo, and a dab of hickory barbecue sauce. The Best Burger... except it didn't have any mushrooms on it, because we're out. That would be The Best Burger + 1.

I'm washing it down with a huge salad because I don't wanna be a fatass.
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As far as fanatical sports fans go, the only thing my Dad ever really taught me about sports was, "The Yankees Eat Sh*t." :lol: I'm like alright, f*** 'em.


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