Dutchess of Cambridge Gives Birth To Baby Girl
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32562117

Rather than disenfranchise you with another death thread, here's some uplifting news for once

Yay!!!!!!!!! Can't wait till they announce her name!! WOOT! Princess!! :D

Poor Harry tho got bumped down to 5th in line.

I'll never understand why people care about the monarchy at all.

Because, for once, this is a joyous occasion and something we rarely hear about in today's news. Congrats to Will and Kate. I hope they name her Diana in tribute to his mom.

No-one cares when a regular woman gives birth though. (Except for her family and friends). And when something happens to these lazy f*ckers who live off tax money, people go crazy. I hope they name her Waste Of Space in tribute to what she's going to grow up to be.

Why do people care? Probably a mix of historical fascination, a system that doesn't exist in most countries, people who generally make the news for the right reasons currently rather than the wrong, and generally... erm, Britain! Go us heh.

Yes, there is tax money involved. But the monarchy in general also generates jobs and income of its own (many of Charles' projects for example), and it's hard to argue against the fact it is still here that draws people to visit the country, and thus tourism money easily outweighs the cost. Especially Americans who got rid of us 240 years ago or so ;)

In the meantime, "Growing up" is exactly what you need to do.

My, you are a horrible person to say that. You're right that nobody cares when a regular woman gives birth, but for us Americans with everything we've been through lately with the Baltimore riots and stuff like that, it's nice to hear some good news for a change.

You gotta admit, while this is a happy occasion it is somewhat bittersweet. Diana now has two little grandchildren who'll never get to meet her cause of those paparazzi scumbags who put money over morals. I can't say I blame William for wanting his personal life to be kept as private as possible.

Why am I a horrible person? It's not like I said the baby doesn't deserve to live or something. The whole royal family is just overrated, in my opinion.

You said the baby should be called "Waste of space". How is that not as bad as wishing death on her? You really are a shallow chav aren't you?

The Royals do a lot of humanitarian work, being decent human beings qualifies as grounds for being "overrated" these days?

You know f*ck all about them and are mocking them purely on their stature jsut because you're not as well off or as important as them, you're also being deliberately antagonistic in a situation that should be attracting none of that. You obviously have nothing intelligent to contribute or nothing nice to say, so why don't you just f*ck off?

Baby now named Charlotte Elizabeth Diana.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...pbJH5LmnkgK54S

Are you implying I'm jealous of them? Being wealthy and giving away some money does not automatically make you a good person.
You guys really need to start living in the real world.

Doesn't automatically make you a bad person either.

Happy families should be celebrated every day, and not just when rich white people have them.

Welcome to the world Princess Charlotte.

Never implied it did.

You said an infant should be called "Waste of Space" because that's what she is.

I think your implications are pretty clear here.
This new person is a waste of space because her parents are celebrities.

That's a special snowflake of an original opinion you've got there, Lou.

You've gone too far this time, chief.
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Amaranthus is from Belgium and his country is a monarchy and has a royal family too. So I'm sure he knows well that a real monarchy isn't a Disney film. Monarchs are politicians and also corrupt. Many people in the UK and Spain dislike their monarchs. And in Belgium there's a bit of tension between the Flemish and the Walloons as well. So don't be surprised that people in Scotland or Catalonia have an aversion against their coutnries' monarchs.

Anyway, as a guy living in a Constitutional Republic, I find monarchy an outdated model. I know kings and queens don't hold that much power nowadays, but you should be elected to occupy the position of a king/president.

I'll deal with the second part here first. There are people who don't like the idea of a monarchy. Not that they HATE the Queen per se, in fact I can barely think of anyone I know who actually dislikes her as a person. Just the institution that she is part of. But I don't think we'll be getting rid of the institution in the foreseeable future, because the pro side is much larger afaik.

Okay, first part. No Royal family member has any say, control or influence over any laws or bonds produced by the British Government. The furthest it goes is the Queen presiding over the opening of the Parliament session each year, having a veto on certain new laws (which she has NEVER exercised), and inviting the leader of the party with the largest number of representatives to form a government after every General Election. It may not be the case in other countries with monarchies, but there is certainly no political corruption or influences from ours.

Well, ye usually kings don't do anything that presidents of republican states do these days. But yes, there are different models of republics and monarchies. I don't think there's any in Europe where the king is the supreme ruler. But when it comes to republican states, you got France where they have a President instead of a PM. But whatever.

As for no corruption, well they're monarchs in the 21st century living in a reality that's pretty much an isolate island. A paradise, so to speak. tax payers' money gotta go somewhere. Not just to social welfare and all the unemployed chavs wearing Liverpool and Chelsea jerseys that seem to enjoy our sun and beaches down south.

And I don't know where in England you live, but I have met plenty of British people in my life, whether on the internet or in real life. In fact, I can just drive down to Algarve and talk to some Brits passing by with quite a decent amount of liquid courage in their bellies already at noon. Many of them are pleasant folk, though. Nothing wrong with beer. It helps loosen up people and make them more honest. And I've met quite some who dislike the queen and especially the rest of her family. And I'm talking about English folk from the center and south here. Aka the "proper" ones. Not even gonna bother mentioning the northerners and the Scots, because obviously they'll be biased and you would not take their opinions seriously. Can you blame them for their aversion, though? It's like Catalonians and Basques disliking Castille and the Spanish royal family. Gotta put ourselves in their shoes, you know? My experience though, like yours, is nothing but mere anecdotal evidence. But it seems kinda funny you, being English and all, cannot think of many examples of people who dislike her Majesty or her family. It'd be like me telling you that I don't know many people who dislike, let's say, Cristiano Ronaldo, per example.

All people who have connections to politicians and political power have blood in their hands, so to speak. Some just more than others. ;)

I love the baby's name. I was hoping Diana would be part of the name, and it is. She also has my middle name of Elizabeth so that's pretty cool, too. Welcome to the world, Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Diana.

Although I specifically singled out the Queen herself there. Other members of the Royal Family, and the actual institution itself, then yes, plenty of dissenters and people who'd like to see them go. There's many a call for Charles to abdicate when the Queen snuffs it, and let William take the throne immediately for example.

The Algarve tends to be where more of the chavvy ex-pats go anyhow. My brother's fiancée's brother, his girlfriend and her family have expensive places in Lisbon for example.

Besides, I was relating to people I know in general, which is quite wide in circle terms, but not really many chavs :P

Well ye, you did focus on the queen. And yes, she seems to be more respected from what I've seen/heard. And her mother even more. The rest of the family seems to not gather that much of a consensus.

I'm quite a cynical guy when it comes to politics and powerful people. I just can't help it. I don't believe in neither saints or demons, though.

And it's interesting you note that, because I've noticed the same pattern. "Chavs" and such tend to prefer the beachside(cheap hotels attract them, I suppose). Whilst the middle and upper middle class folk tend to be more into city touring. Then again, I suppose every place has their own characteristic chavs. We do have quite some hacks of our own, trust me. And they're pretty embarrassing too. The English ones just happened to gain a more notoriety over others. Must be all the britcoms and shows like "Shameless" that helped it.

And yes, this is good place to live in if you have quite some money. And even if you don't; food, coffee, beer, etc. are all dirt cheap here compared to England or northern Europe. Seriously, London is insanely expensive.

I personally dislike the summer heat, though. Unbearable. And my skin hates it too.

Dutchess? It's Duchess. I was also happy for the birth of the little Princess. I am sure William will talk to her about Princess Diana, a compassionate human being who had the admiration of every people in the world.

Hey, congratulations!
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Can't really get excited about this. She had a baby. Again. Like most other women on the planet have done or will do someday. Yay for her, I guess. No big deal, other than the kid's pedigree....