Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep18: "The Deadly Venom"
 

So, all that character development in Karai learning Splinter was her father and realizing Shredder was an evil SOB. Is that all kaput now?

Baxter conveniently creates a mind control serum (which we briefly saw tested on Raph - and failed), and they use it on Karai to get her under their control again. Leo broke the control on Raph by... pissing him off (what?). What will it take to get Karai out of the trance? Is he gonna have to kiss her?

From what the spoiler pics have seen of Karai's kiss... Leo may not want to take that option. But it'll create some controversy to discuss.

I really hope this leads to a good episode for this four episode period. I wasn't a fan of the first two and enjoyed Meet Mondo Gecko. I just hope this episode leads to strong developments of a personal storyline.

I just don't like Karai has been utilized as a plot device for the feuds between Shredder VS. Splinter and against Leonardo more than being an actual character. It's just becoming boring that nothing has been done to her besides getting mutated. It has promise that has failed potential for the time being. Hoping this is the episode that breaks that sense to close out the new episode marathon for the time being.

This four-episode deal has been a major groan for me. Probably the biggest quality hiccup this show has had so far imo. I liked the Muckman episode, but Clash of the Mutanimals was awful and Meet Mondo Gecko was a whole episode dedicated to selling toys. And we all know how good those are.
Long story short: if this episode (that promises to get back to the storyline, but then again, Clash sort of did as well) isn't any good, I'll be done with this series.

How was meet mondo gecoo dedicated to selling toys. Other than one new figure. But hell isn't that potentially every episode.

Basically all of Shredder's henchmen were there... and for what reason? What's the point of them being there, not to mention they're all completely out of character. Just that whole idea's a little screwy to me. Not to mention that the episode on its own was just crap (which has nothing to do with selling toys, just a reason I don't like the episode as a whole).

It doesn't make sense on the inclusions of the mutants at all besides showing "Hey everyone, miss us? We're back and still alive." The Foot I understand as they want to see if Xever can finally prove himself, but a big brawl should have occurred. Felt like a screwy end to the racing portion.

Otherwise, I'm kinda the inverse of the Noxious Avenger and this episode. I sort of liked the latter episode while not entirely a big fan of the former.

Also, 50 minutes til showtime.

Why do you think it's crap, I thought the episode was alot of fun and didn't mind seeing the villians on their down time. But that's just me to each his own.

None of the four episode hasn't been rage inducing for me.

Casey vs the Underworld was okay. Hun as a character doesn't have a lot of things going on for him. He's pretty much "Here this new guy and look how cool and awesome he is! He awesome, right? Right?". As a fighter, he will make some fights interesting but outside of that, he feels like a generic TigerClaw 2.0. Them referencing and remembering that a invasion had happened was good because it was my ultimatum for me to stick by this show. This show can't just forget that an invasion had happened but it didn't so no major complaints.

Muckman episode was such a nice surprise. Hardly any legit problems and almost felt like a season 1 episode.

Clash of the Mutanimals while not being the beginning of the Dark Raph character arc that I really wanted, it wasn't a bad episode.

Mondo Gecko started lackluster and predictable but that death race turn it around it for me. My only complaint is that I wish the entire episode was death race.

Normally last episode of the set is usually the one that drops the ball. I am hyped but my real concern is Karai. I really really hope that this mind control won't last beyond a episode and becomes the norm for a long while.
The turtles already knows how fight the mind control serum but with it being perfected they probably have find a new way to beat it.

I read somewhere that they called her "Kiba" to help break the control so I'm hoping that might mean the writers are not going keep this mind control aspect for the rest of series as something to keep them fighting over.

How about taking the discussions about past episodes to those threads?

Same here I've enjoyed all the episodes so far but that's just me

Well, I mean, don't you think it's a little silly imagining Shredder's henchmen spending some skateboarding race in their downtime? That seems off to me. I mean, if Shredder had come barging in and screamed "WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE?!" then that'd be something else, but as it is, it's just... off.

I 100% agree with everything youve said this show has gone to **** lets hope this new episode is good.

Live stream is down again :cry: so I won't able to watch the new episode until it's up on Anime flavor later so I have to avoid spoilers for about 2 hours. Luckily I got Man Utd vs Arsenal to keep me occupied but I just hope Arsenal will win :D

Episode starts NOW!!!

Keep an eye on tumblr, sometimes an alternative stream comes up way before it appears on Anime Flavor.

I hate football so I'll be watching the Dream Beavers episode to keep myself entertained.

Wait, how?

I felt like it would've been a suprise if it wasn't for the leak.:-(

The episode already beginning?

yes. it is.

Guess cause time was flying, I guess.

That kiss of death...
Casari?

Please end in a good way

:teek:

Karai has proven to be dangerous already, sheesh. This is insane, well worth it so far.

So Leo's a healer now

Leo OP. Nerf plz.

The ending sucked a little, but nice development.

This was damn good. Continuity nods all over the place. I'd have to say it felt like a season 1 episode.

I loved this episode , nice to see a somewhat human Karai back.

I wonder what Baxter did to stabilize Karai, and I'm hoping we'll see Splinter be the one to snap her out of the mind control.

I loved the part where Mikey listed all the things that bit him.

This was a good one though. I'm still so sick of stupid snake Karai, but there were a lot of cool aspects to this episode. I liked Splinter and Leo sparring in the beginning.

Yeah, that was a fun callback.

And I just remembered Squirrelanoids are still a thing.

Was ok. Interesting, kinda different. (Guess all this is why Karai has remain reflected in Shredder's mask in the opening.) Right from the start of it, kinda obvious we're going the mystic magic route, but I thought it might come down to Splinter to save whoever was affected.

Think the main dower for me is knowing I'm going to get online expecting the anti-Leo brigade :(... because they really kinda did go way too fast on him learning that skill or whatnot. :ohwell:

Although I guess we're letting up on a bit on the all powerful April thing.

Pineapple head... wtf. lol (Get your references out of the Turtles, Spongebob.)

I'll probably analyze this more later, but for now I can say it was a good episode, just wish the ending to fighting Karai had a little more meaning.

Do you think Karai control snakes, or does she just have a few that follow her around/listen to her?

Can anyone describe what happened with April in the episode? Been missing her lately with her limited screen time.

The best call back was probably the fact that Splinter is still recovering from Slash hitting him. I wasn't expecting that.

At first we see her and Casey walking out of a movie together. Casey drops her off at home. She has a nightmare about being bitten by snakes, and when she wakes up she actually does getting bitten.
Her dad then takes her to the turtles lair, where she remains in a semi-comatose state till the end up the episode

Oh that too. I honestly forgot that happened, and the one time I DON'T expect them to bring something up, they actually do.

Mike had a pretty clever disguise at the start, but that was about as silly as it got, and Raph sure knew the importance that would crucial in saving everyone at the end. This brings Karai full circle being still wanted for Splinter yet clearly something that people like Casey shouldn't flirt on, with just some dragon powers in addition. The concept involving April fainting and needed a quick antidote isn't original in the multiverse (see OT's Enter The Fly), but the clever Ninja exercise at the end after a decent confrontation with the Foot/Karai felt was a good way to end the May Sweeps.

Show Grade: 8/10