Captain Planet & the Planeteers
 

Does anyone remember this old show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyOMYC6mlsY

I would wish there was a reboot of this show. This time they should add a sixth planeteer from Australia.

I've always wondered why they wouldn't reboot this. Why this didn't happen at the height of the global warming craze, I'll never know.

No, it happened at the height of the acid rain/DDT/ozone layer panic. Not much different, actually.

N-Z- WHY would they need a SIXTH??!! It's Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Heart(aka Spirit). There's no other "element" to add there.

hmm
 

they can crossover with jackie chan adventures and use the talismans

No. Just- no. Two COMPLETELY different spiritual backgrounds. CP was based more on the traditional Western elemental pentad, with a lot of pagan undertones (Geia, for starters) while Jackie Chan is based on Eastern mysticism. While it CAN work with a mesh of the two systems, I doubt any cartoon writers would be bothered enough to understand them enough to understand HOW to make it work. Metaphysical practices and belief systems are distinctly attuned to the cultures that created them, and vice versa. It's like trying to stick the Borg into ET- doesn't really fit.

Well we got five:

- Earth: Africa
- Fire: North America
- Wind: Europe
- Water: Asia
- Heart: South America

Australia would be the best one. For this one's element will be lightning/thunder (violet colored). With that ring it'll give CP a power-boost... perhaps a special set of armor when it comes to some bigger threats from the disturbed environment. He'll start off being a bad guy when he is a slave to Zarm. He goes on a soul journey of redemption yet he does not join the Planeteers fully (goes solo) until later. He has an obsession with destroying Zarm for what he's done to him in taking advantage of his ideals & dreams for helping & changing the world. He can be a love interest for Gi.

The world's in chaos due to ISIS. Still there are also earthquakes, tsunamis & tornadoes, etc.

It's really sad that now being ecological is seen as something negative and hippie bullcrap. We do need a new show like Captain Planet that teaches kids how important it is to take care of our planet, I mean we have a whole new generation that isn't even aware what a big problem it is and all they know about the topic is that there's two sides where some believe it's all a hoax and others say it's important while it's anything but a hoax and it is man made. My generation are the ones who are more conscious about this because we grew up exactly in the era where we saw Captain Planet and many other shows had environmental messages but if the newer generations aren't educated they'll grow up to be ignorant about it like the older generations now that are keeping us from making a change.

For a new version of Captain Planet I always found the idea of having a younger generation of planeteers, the old gang can make special guest appearances but an all new cast. The new show would not be as preachy and be much better written as well after all CP was a product of its time and if there's no changes then wouldn't work at all. CP would also need to have a much smaller role and he wouldn't just fix the problem alone, the emphasis has to be on the planeteers.

This show was pretty bad. They should remake it as an action cartoon.

I think I'll agree you on that. But I'll wish for a sixth planeteer added this time.

I loved this show as a kid. I liked when they redesigned the characters though. The only thing I didn't like about the show was Captain Planet himself, ironically. I liked the Planeteers.

Lies and slander - Captain Planet was awesome to the max. I have it on DVD. :D

An Australian Planeteer is only allowed if they use an actual Australian for the voice acting. There is nothing more cringe-worthy to an Australian than an American interpretation of what they think our accents are (based on repeated viewings of Crocodile Dundee and The Crocodile Hunter). :ohwell:

Kwame: Wielding earth, he would help all of nature and its environment.

Wheeler: Wielding fire, he'll burn down all those who harm the planet.

Linka: Wielding wind, she'll rid the world of pollution and protect all animals and birds.

Gi: Wielding water, protect all marine life.

Ma-Ti: Wielding heart, he'll help all those who can't protect themselves.

The newest member of the team from Australia:

Zhane (new): Wielding lightning/thunder, seeing slavery, imprisonment, war, discrimination, he'll do anything to strike down the evil ones who mistreat the innocent and those with good rights against evil. Protecting even the churches who believe in truth. Protect all Christians persecuted.

I like the lightning idea, but ya kinda lost me with that last part.

Which was that?

I think this is a stealth fanfic thread about a sixth planeteer disguised as a discussion thread.

While there were definitely episodes where the Planeteers tackled social issues - like drugs and AIDS - their primary focus was on ecological issues. That was what made the Planeteers unique - their mission was to prevent deforestation, pollution, poaching, and provide education on ecologically sustainable practices (as well as relevant animal rights issues like animal testing for makeup).

If you broaden the scope too much to address issues like human trafficking, racism, war, slavery, discrimination, I feel you take away from the Planeteers' main mission. They're all important issues, and all things worth fighting for, but the Planeteers can't be all things to all people - otherwise they're generic superheroes. What made the Planeteers stand out was that they were specifically devoted to environmentalism. If you throw in too much, then they become the Social Justice Warrior Vegan Planeteers with Left-wing Political Leanings and Religious Messages.

Kinda hard to fit that into a theme song, y'know? ;)

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh riiiiiigggggght, you all sound like that. Shut up. :trazz::trazz::trazz:

But that would be the best thing!

The world's gone to chaos, and with Captain Planet if it'll become a reboot, they gotta deliver good messages and encouraging ones to those in need.

The sixth planeteer would be involved in stopping terrorism all over the world while searching for Zarm's trail. Those who are suffering from war and those suffering from false religious rule.

Speaking of CP, favorite episodes you guys remember? I loved the ones about...
- The beginning
- The fake dragon
- Captain Pollution
- The cosmetics
- Traveling through time in the Western cowboy days

Erm, dude, I think maybe you might not quite understand what the Planeteers were all about.

FIRST- They were ECO-heroes, not the Social Justice League. Their entire mission was LITERALLY "Save the planet from corrupt/evil big business and eco-crime". That's IT. They weren't out to stop drug-dealers (unless they were using the money to bulldoze rainforests to build shopping malls or whatever) or religious terrorists, or- just NO. Also, it really doesn't matter what continent any of them is from, they were chosen because they represented the largest eco-territories on Earth. Each came from a land that had not only vast regions under their influence, but were also in the most ecological danger from human activities. Australia is and has for YEARS been on the forefront of ecological progress and stewardship, so it doesn't really qualify on either of those counts!

SECOND!! (And more importantly) Lightening is NOT an element. Not in Eastern OR Western elemental metaphysical traditions. Lightening is a combination of TWO elements- Fire and Air. Even in Eastern tradition, the Five elements are: Fire, Earth, Water, Wood and Metal. Even the I-Ching of lightening is the combined Trigrams (symbols used in I-Ching) for Fire and Heaven(Air). Video game elemental systems aside, lightening is not and has NEVER been considered an element of its own. It's a manifestation of Fire/Air combined. Please learn the difference before attempting to add misinformed concepts to something that was never meant to include such concepts. Captain Planet was the "human" personification of the metaphysical elements combined into a living body, a literal "Guardian Spirit Protector" of Earth, just as Geia herself WAS the "Spirit of Earth" aka Mother Nature (and a Greek/Roman goddess, I might add!) The reason the Planeteers used those five elements is that they are the classical elements of alchemy and ancient pagan spiritual beliefs. Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Akasha, or Spirit (aka Heart in CPatP.) There ARE NO other elements. (Eastern traditions excepted- they use Wood in place of Air, and Metal in place of Spirit. But that is because of their spiritual focus being very different from Western traditions.)

THIRD: CP being the Guardian Spirit he is (Geia's "Champion", basically) is the essence of protection of life and nature as a living force. He is not simply a superhero, he IS a being tied directly to the Earth, so has no place as a "Warrior for Justice and Religion". And that includes his ties to Geia herself, having a mental/spirit "bond" directly to her. He's basically her fighting arm.



The five canon Planeteers were chosen because they embodied the qualities of their elements. There is no metaphysical element of lightening, so one can't actually "embody" something that is itself already made of two different elements. Do some actual research on elemental studies, please.



Yeah, I kind of think the same thing.


This is not how I would have put it, but yes. Agreed on ALL counts. That, plus the Planeteers served to protect the five MAJOR continents, all of which are far more ecologically endangered than Aussie-land. (Something for which you should take pride in your home, penny! You guys "get it", ecologically speaking.)

To be fair, heart isn't an element and CP did tackle other issues besides ecology before including gay marriage, in fact the official CP FB page got in trouble for that very reason a couple of weeks ago. Of course the main focus is on being green and any reboot should do that but an episode here or there with some other social issue would be fine. Terrorism makes zero sense though and with today's political climate CP would already be in a lot of heat for being too preachy and a bad cartoon for kids with bad messages, so anything additional to the green message might spell its doom. Also the planeteers were chosen specifically because they wanted the message to go around the world and Latin America/Asia(china)/Africa/Russia were chosen for those reasons and it's also some of the emerging economies that were about to pollute (and now they are), and of course America. Australia didn't really need a representative. Even then they tried to be very general about it, asian/latin american etc to appeal to every country.

Without Ted Turner though I don't see anyone caring enough to make this show though since the original only ran because of his ideology and didn't care if it didn't make money as long as it was out there. You won't see that at Time-Warner anytime soon.

Oi, nah mate! Don't come the raw prawn with me, I'll farken dawg ya, ya poof!

http://i.imgur.com/MTQD9Oo.jpg?1

:P:P:P

Australia has a pretty good awareness of eco-responsibility, probably because we have so many unique animal species which can't be found anywhere else. That being said, I personally think there's a lot we can do to improve; we have the worst mammal extinction rate in the world. Unfortunately this is mostly down to introduced species screwing up the eco-system and feral carnivores and herbivores. IMO, laws need to be introduced to make sure that cats are kept inside (no exceptions), spaying/neutering must be mandatory and we need to come up with a humane solution to our feral cat problem - I'm a huge cat lover and we have a terrible feral cat problem over here; we've got an estimated 18 million feral cats (as opposed to a bit over 2 million household cats). It's an awful situation because you can't blame the cats for doing what they do - they have to hunt if they want to survive; at the same time, a lot of our native fauna aren't cut out to deal with a predator like them and the cats themselves have hardly any predators other than foxes (sometimes), wedge-tail eagles and dingoes. Although the cats did help with the rabbit problem, since they were another introduced species who messed things up for our local critters.

Feral foxes are another problem in that they're rough on the wildlife - feral foxes will sometimes eat feral cats but then the cats avoid the areas that have foxes which means the foxes then turn to the wildlife for food.

There's also the problem of our dingo population being utterly screwed - all of our pureblood dingoes are almost gone; if pure dingo populations were re-boosted it could help to control the cat and fox populations. If we also reduced the amount of livestock grazing, there would be more ground-cover for small mammals to hide from cats.

There's really no way to eradicate the feral cat population because there's no way to bait the entire continent (not to mention, that's completely inhumane and would kill other natural Australian predators). We have a lot of people who think that the solution is to just shoot all the feral cats - again, that's inhumane and ineffective. Australia is actually pretty unfriendly towards cats; we get a lot of really cruel cat-torture cases over here - they've basically been scapegoated as a result of human stupidity.

The Great Barrier Reef is also adversely being affected by climate change, though this is something that our government is actively working on, which is good.

Technically, Heart is CP's version of "Akasha(Spirit)". It's just a different interpretation of the same concept and "element". Doesn't really matter that it was called Heart, it's the "human" element, if you follow. The element of the soul, if you will. So it still fits into the basic frame of the classic elements. I give it a pass, because Heart is easier to grasp for kids than Spirit. Though they could have just as easily called it Will or something similar.

And yeah, I agree that if they did a reboot, it should update to include more modern environmental and perhaps a FEW social issues. (Mostly dealing with things like hunger, education, and other things that could tie into the main theme.)



Yeah, I'm aware of the cat, fox, and rabbit problems (and mice and rats, too, apparently- YIKES!), but sadly, those have been issues for generations, ever since the first European settlers there. But on the other hand, like you mentioned, Australia DOES actively work to protect and preserve its native wild species and diversity, particularly in the bush and the Great Barrier. I know they have made stricter environmental laws than almost any nation on Earth, and the work being done to protect the reefs and various marsupial species is phenomenal compared to most of the world's concern (or lack thereof). Environmentally speaking, it's one of the most progressive and active governments and cultures in the world. (USA tries, but we have so much red-tape, government corruption and agendas, and big business paying authorities to look the other way or make laws more lenient or even reversing them that it is just- ugh.)

Heart seems to be light. If this show was rebooted and added the "sixth planeteer" it's gotta someone connected to dark. I'm not talkin' about Captain Pollution since Hate is connected to him.

I'm talkin' about anything.... shadow.

I want one of those Whatever The F*ck That Is in penny's picture. :lol:

no, no. just no. no f-cking 6th planeteer.

Red kanga, mate! They're farken grouse, eh?!

:lol:

Zat what dat iz? Wow. :lol: That whole place really IS like something out of a video game, huh? :lol:

You know, the funny thing is that we actually don't think of our country as particularly dangerous - most of the wildlife over here that can kill you is pretty small; you guys get killed by mountain lions and bears while you're jogging or camping! Which seems waaaay more extreme.

Over here, it's more "wear boots and watch where you put your feet and don't shove your hands in places where there could be spiders or snakes". And watch out for magpies during nesting season. Leave cassowaries and red kangaroos alone (the greys are fairly safe). :lol: And don't go swimming in places where there are saltwater crocs. And know what poisonous/chompy thingies to look out for if you're at the beach (which I avoid by being a thoroughly non-beach-going person!).

Also, America has absolutely terrifying possums. Ours are cute and adorable:

http://i.imgur.com/SSbv0An.jpg?1

and yours are these scary looking demon-rats:

http://i.imgur.com/et4b2KH.jpg?1

I know that they're apparently totally different species - yours are something called an opossum: I like to think that the 'o' stands for 'oh my god get it away from me!". :lol:

:lol:

Yeah, but... Drop Bears...

Drop bears aren't usually anything to worry about unless you're a tourist; it's been scientifically proven that they're less likely to attack people with Australian accents. When you're in the bush, just wear a protective hard-hat and sing Cold Chisel or AC/DC songs as loudly as you can; you're usually pretty safe. Some people have tried belting out a few classics by Midnight Oil but I've heard the results can be iffy.

What you've really got to worry about is funnel web spiders. They're super-aggressive (try taking one on with a broom and it will come after you), will bite you more than once, can survive being submerged in water for over 24 hours (making them very hard to drown) and their fangs are strong enough to bite through fingernails and soft shoes.

Hilariously, they're practically of no danger at all to cats or dogs, but if you're human, they can f*ck your sh*t up. :lol:

You're awesome. :lol:

And f*ck ALL spiders! ALL of them!
http://k43.kn3.net/taringa/1/8/4/8/7...sorder/531.gif

Bozhe moi! I fear that a modern Captain Planet would try to be all things to all men and confuse the kids. For all the crap the original gets for being naive and simplistic, you do walk away from it thinking about basic environmental issues, because of its simplicity.

Can you imagine the political process involved in producing a 20XX version, not to mention all the masters a show like that would have to please to get on TV.

http://i.imgur.com/ORbnm7D.jpg

Also.. maybe I should keep this to myself, but I held a serious candle for Dr Blight in my youth.

Seconded. They always end up closer to New Zealand or Afrikaans than Australian, but I won't pretend that it's not funny.

Loved this show as a kid

Maybe YOU do. I always walked away from it wanting to bang Linka. :lol:

The show succeeded either way. "Hey kids, a girl you like is into environmentalism? Well I guess your into environmentalism now too!!! Go Planet!"

True five elements are the originals. But I still think a 6th should appear and have a ring that possesses one of the mixed elements and act as a power boost for CP.

Ain't that a little harsh for ol' Captain Planet?

So it looks like these two are gonna end up fighting a lot, huh? Because one wants to rid the world of ALL ANIMALS, and the other wants to protect marine animals? Did you even think this through? Ridding the world of animals does the exact opposite of protecting it. Like this is basic biology, go back to school, kid. Also why you gotta single out birds?

Whoa. That's a LOT of responsibility on your new self-insert. Also, you realise nobody can wield thunder, right? Like, thunder is a sound.

Oh, and what does "those with good rights against evil" mean? Does this mean he goes after people with the right to free speech as opposed to the people without free speech? What IS a "good" right? This doesn't make any sense!

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH

GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY, HE THINKS CHRISTIANS ARE PERSECUTED, LMFAO

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

http://i.imgur.com/ts3gCgj.png

But to be real for a moment: you don't get to decide what "false" religious rule is, bruh. If some other individual or some other country decides to follow a religion you aren't a member of, then let them be! They're clearly happy with it, just as you are yours, you ain't gonna accomplish anything but making people want to fight you by shoving your ideals down their throats. Seriously, this is why people like me hate religious people like you. Your ideals are nothing but annoying ******** to me. Going on and on about God or Jesus or whatever is not going to "save" me, I don't need saving, and neither does anyone else that happens to not subscribe to your particular religious belief.

He was online when I posted that and I'm laughing that he didn't respond to it.

*I'm* laughing because Dashie amuses me. :tgrin: