The Hiatus Rant Thread
 

For people to discuss and rant about the constant hiatus. Since people are getting annoyed with the unnecessary comments on the official thread, I made this thread.

Enjoy.

It is annoying but sometimes i'm glad time goes quickly for me.

Also I expect their will be at least a 3 month hiatus between May and August during season 4 next year because of the new movie as Nick will need to promote it.

It's bull ****. Especially the way they've moved this last batch back like three times now. It's getting really hard for me to keep interest in the show, and I'm a turtle freak. I can only imagine how many viewers they've lost over this.

Now if it's simply because the episodes aren't done, then I understand. But something tells me it's the fault of some nickelodeon pencil pushers.

I think it's a combination of both honestly. I think when they first scheduled the episodes, the episodes needed tweaking and weren't completely finished. However, now I think it's because of Nick itself since there's a stupid movie on today, and they usually don't air TMNT when there's a new crappy movie they have. The breaks definitely suck and drive me mad sometimes, but I try to cope. As I've said, it would be easier if they'd air a rerun and that would make it more tolerable, but they haven't been doing that lately, and that's just not cool.

Finally a Purple Kraken thread I can sink my teeth into.

Getting pissed off now, there isn't a new episode on July 5th. :x

Lately it feels like this is a prevalent trend in a lot of TV shows. Flash and Arrow both have hiatuses, TMNT has hiatuses...

Seems like really poor planning. If your season hasn't been very good, too many hiatuses become too many jumping-off points for some viewers.

I'm wondering if somebody's trying to kill the show? This is getting truly bizarre.

Maybe they have something else in the works, and this is their way of forcing early cancellation so they don't breach contract. :ohwell:

I sure hope not! I've been wondering the same thing though, Wolf. My other half is trying to remain optimistic, saying that we'll probably get a season 5, but I'm rather doubtful at this point. At least we know that the show won't be one of those infernal series that ends on a cliffhanger. Thank God Ciro has an ending mapped out no matter when the execs decide to pull the plug. hehe I just used the word infernal and can't help but think of 80's Krang or Shredder ranting when a particular piece of tech or plan has failed. "Two plus two is four."

Do you have any idea how television works? They're not going to cancel a show when there's already 20 more episodes in production for a Season 4. Do you have any idea what a waste of money that is?

Each episode costs millions to make for god sakes. This isn't someones online fanfiction.

Hyperbole and exaggeration.

No it isn't. The production costs of each episode is high. I obviously don't have an exact number, but they don't spend nearly a million dollars on each episode to not air it

My knowledge of cgi TV is limited, but could it be the time it takes to make episodes? I don't imagine that these episodes are quick, churn-out episodes. Moreover, I bet even small issues can cause big delays.

There is no way a single episode of TMNT, CGI or not, costs anywhere close to a single million dollars.

I'll say it again: hyperbole and exaggeration. But now I feel obliged to go try and find actual numbers...

I apologize, Cubed... turns out you're actually pretty close to spot on.

http://endlessfight.net/printthread.php?tid=886

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...artoon+episode

(various articles on that Google link are applicable...)

This was what I could find after a little digging. $100k-$200k seems more reasonable, but wow, I do agree with your sentiment; that is pretty expensive. Hand-drawn animation DOES cost a million or two per episode, apparently... example being the Simpsons. But one reason some cartoons are moving to CGI is cost-savings; a computer program is cheaper.

This blows my mind. So again, let me apologize: Cubed, thou wast right.

I think the hiatus is a very good opportunity for all fans who only grew up with the new stuff of TMNT to watch the classics(87`s version). Never forget the roots :D And it makes the waiting time far less worse. I guess i will watch again if they are finally in Season 4 when they go to Dimension X. But seeing the schedule of the program its a good guess that this will take another half year if not more xDD

The same can be said of the 1990 film AND some of the original Mirage comics. Nick has clear roots in these also. And - for anyone who missed it - 4Kids.

All the old stuff yes.

I admit. I am a bit bothered by it.

Nick's just doing 'great' right now.. _-_

I don't really care. It's not that great and it's just easier to binge-watch it on DVDs. I see it on reruns when there's nothing at all on TV, but I haven't caught a "new" episode when it was fresh in ages. I don't even know what the "normal" day and time it usually airs is.

Same goes for most shows I watch. I'm busy, I don't have time to memorize the TV Guide.

Hey, that's fine, Leo. I can understand that.

I do hope we get a season five as I love this show and don't want it to end on season four. That's what was meant when Wolf said it could be cancelled. Obviously, they're still going to make season four, but no plans have been announced for a season five, and that worries me. They did mention a possible spin-off so if this series DOES end at season four, that's probably when the spin-off will air.

It's pretty lame but what can we all do?
Life goes on, I'm just happy there's a show at all even though we only get new episodes every so often.
I remember a time when there was no TMNT on tv at all.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm happy we have a TMNT show. I just wish that the breaks weren't so spread out. But as I've said, I can deal with it. Watched "Within the Woods" today just for the heck of it, and that made me feel better.

I fully expect the show to get at least 7 seasons. Nick purchased the entire TMNT IP, its not like they're partnering with Mirage like 4kids did.

The IDW comics probably barely makes Nick any money and the movies don't do well enough in the box office if the first one was any indication. The show and toys are the bloodline.

Woah, I hope this ain't a sign of the coming apocalypse! :lol:

Yeah, a cliffhanger would suck. I'm wondering about a season 5 myself, but we won't know until July. I would also say that the other way to look at it too (if it does end at Season 4) is that it won't be a zombie show like the Sponge or the Simpsons. Both should have ended years ago, they can always do spin offs and other things to keep them 'alive,' but the benefit being that they still remain fresh (and they can always be brought back later.) Even some Fred Wolf fans mention that the show would have been better condensed to about 5 seasons, since it appeared 'seasonal rot' had set in the middle.

I would've agreed, however I'd already had one popular CGI show canceled early (Clone Wars) and they had been working on Season 6 when it was. Not to mention it the whole show was paid for by Lucas's money and it was still canceled by Disney, and the show was very popular at the time.

It doesn't matter what they are doing with the show at the time or how much (or little) they paid for it if some network bigwig wants it gone. The hiatuses might be nothing or they might be a bad sign. Screwing around with a show's schedule is a cheap and 'legal' way to kill ratings to kill a show, because doing it another way would likely breach about a dozen binding contracts and put them in court. Some of these contracts are with VAs, some are with toy makers, some with the CGI guys. But each contract very likely has a clause in it about possibly canceling if there is a declining viewerbase, which if you are clever enough you can create through wonky scheduling, and they'll not be able to do anything to stop you.

What kinda creep-ass jerks would pull a stunt like that? I tell ya, I've just about had it with television all together!

I don't think I'm as bothered by the hiatuses anymore... What bothers me, based on what you all say, is that it's preempted during these hiatuses and the airing of the show in general is sporadic.

I always use this example, but back when Rugrats was a thing, even when the show did go into hiatus (and gained popularity), it still kept its same timeslot, regardless if the episode was new or a rerun. This show should have its own timeslot and be allowed to keep it and when there's no new episode, air reruns of the show, not Spongebob or whatever.

Of course I could be wrong, so if I am, please feel free to correct me.

Yeah, I think having reruns air would be fine in place of a new episode, but they haven't been doing that lately. They will be for next Sunday, but this past Sunday they had some dumb movie on instead. I don't know what to think about this, but I agree that it's getting ridiculous, and I do hope it's not a sign that the show will be finished.

I'm telling you guys, Michael Bay was somehow infiltrate Nickelodeon, and is giving us all of these hiatuses on purpose.
"This is for not liking my movies, you whining fanboys!"
And if we don't like the next movie... The show goes boom.

It doesn't bother me. CGI takes a while to produce, I completely understand that.

Id ask Brandon or Ciro if they know when the next episode will air.

I noticed that there is no new episode this Sunday and I thought it was scheduled for this weekend and I heard that they cancelled the July 5th episode too. I came hear hoping you guys would calm my fears and I'm only more scared now.

Irregardless how much an episode costs, I get a foreboding feeling that they are trying to cancel it. I haven't watched from the beginning, but did they do all this sort of hiatus changing way back in the beginning?

Well, they probably won't cancel it until season 4 is done unless a season 5 is confirmed because I can't see them working so hard on these episodes only for them to be nixed.

I can't really remember the beginning, but it wasn't as spread out as this. But as the budget increases and things are added, I expect it takes more time. They just want to put on a good show, and I definitely can get that and understand it. I admit that I'm just not the most patient person in the world when it comes to certain things. I try to get better, but to no avail.

I did, and have yet to get a response.

yeah
 

the hiatus is some BS, and the turtle toys are warming pegs everywhere now. Might be the end soon.

Yeah, they are starting to look that way at my Walmart. They aren't selling like they were. :ohwell:

yup
 

i'm starting to see a ton of em on clearance now too.

LOL, what? The toys are selling fine. Just because you see toys in your one little Walmart doesn't mean its like that in millions of stores across the U.S.

I love how people base the shows success on their little neck in the woods.

Is there any data on how the toy sales are currently doing? It'd be interesting to compare and contrast both the ratings and merchandise sales for Seasons 1 through to 3 thus far.

Uh buddy, I hate to break it to ya but it's the same way in a lot of stores. Both Wal-Mart and Target in my current residence have a buttload of unsold TMNT merchandise, and most times I'm there I don't see too many kids psyched as sh*t to pick any of them up. I did consider buying the Mirage TMNT last year, but I decided not to since I've already got the Neca figures.