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Splinter the boss 07-27-2015 03:01 PM

Do you think shredder will become a mutant ? And how would you react if he mutates ?
 
I think that it's better that he is the only human character in the show who is able to stand against powerful mutants like Leatherhead. And mutating him would be infering that his strength alone cannot stop Splinter and the turtles. So, I wouldn't want a mutant shredder on the show. What do you think ? Also state the reason why you think the way you do.

Ceres 07-27-2015 03:09 PM

why should he mutate anyway? Nothing leads up to that guess. I am sure he is better off being a human being. He is already strong as hell, no need for a mutation to double that.

Mugic 07-27-2015 03:11 PM

Bishop from the 2k3 toon was capable of fighting on par with mutants even while unarmed, assuming that aspect of him doesn't change too much in this series, we could still have a human who can go head to mutants long after the Shredder mutates.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-27-2015 03:13 PM

Do I want it to happen? No.

Do I think it will happen. Quite possibly. Odds are by now 50/50.

How will I react? By spraining my eyes from rolling them too hard.

GoldMutant 07-27-2015 03:20 PM

Considering the tons of mutants popping up, it's pretty obvious Shredder is going to mutate, most likely into Super Shredder. Outside the Fred Wolf era, he's really had no appearances, just about four games, an action figure, and SOTO. However, given the current events in season 3, there's no way he'll mutate.

Shredder has clearly demonstrated he can be a fierce opponent despite the writing making his power vary, especially from Serpent Hunt to Clash of the Mutanimals. He can stand his ground very easily and as the only human based villain barring Hun, who hasn't left an impact yet, it would take away the special value here. Keeping him human gives Shredder his own identity as the big bad of the franchise.

However, I do want him to mutate, but not yet. The only appropriate time he can transform is near the end of the show's run, probably as the final antagonist. When Shredder becomes a Super Shredder, it should be a near fight to the death just like the Turtles first major win soon. Leo, Raph, Donnie, and Mikey should have shown considerable growth in strength by then, using everything they have as a team to win (think the Mirage Comics with their first fight with Shredder). It would make for a significant end to the show for that to happen.

Splinter the boss 07-27-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpressOfShadows (Post 1487434)
why should he mutate anyway? Nothing leads up to that guess. I am sure he is better off being a human being. He is already strong as hell, no need for a mutation to double that.

Who knew Karai was going to mutate into a snake ? You never know what might happen.

Powder 07-27-2015 03:43 PM

Considering we already have proof he does, this thread's kinda redundant.

DarkLightDragon 07-27-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1487451)
Who knew Karai was going to mutate into a snake ? You never know what might happen.

Except we did know she was going to be mutated given the toyline kinda spoiled it.

Not a good analogy there.

As for what my reaction would be? Meh, whatever, I just want to see him go down sooner. Especially if he does it willingly for the belief he'll be invincible once mutated.

Metalwolf 07-27-2015 03:50 PM

^^^ But we have some spoilers now from the clips that have been popping up. He's gonna mutate (either accidentally or on purpose) after the time travel episodes.

How do you explain the title 'Attack of the Mega Shredder?" ;)

Splinter the boss 07-27-2015 04:10 PM

I saw the clip, and it was a robot shredder, not a mutant.

Metalwolf 07-27-2015 04:13 PM

Not that one, this one:



https://41.media.tumblr.com/1add0733...2b6bo1_540.png

THAT is Mega-Shredder, and that ain't no robot. 8)

Powder 07-27-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1487503)
I saw the clip, and it was a robot shredder, not a mutant.

That's a toy commercial, bruh. Nothing to do with the show.

Splinter the boss 07-27-2015 04:42 PM

That thing looks like a kraang thing, considering the color of its face.

IndigoErth 07-27-2015 05:26 PM

Should it..? Nah.

If he did though, it could be a way to end his part in the show. Hard to defeat him by killing him in a "kid's show," so mutation that really screws with his head might be what does him in. At least for a while.

Or mutate him with something embarrassing for him, like a poodle, so he goes into hiding.

neatoman 07-27-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf (Post 1487504)
Not that one, this one:



https://41.media.tumblr.com/1add0733...2b6bo1_540.png

THAT is Mega-Shredder, and that ain't no robot. 8)

Woah! That was, wow... How do I even respond to this? How do I even describe it?

The closest I can think of is that it's like the Tetsuo blob from Akira with X-Men Spiral's arms and Godzilla's spines, and even then I feel I should go on to describe it in further detail.

Powder 07-27-2015 05:40 PM

The consensus right now is that Shredder & his mutant henchmen (well, Baxter, Rahzar, & Fishface, anyway) are all mutated into one grotesque monster. Kraang influence has come up as well.

Fang Wolf 07-27-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf (Post 1487504)

If Shredder will be mutated into "Disgusting thing"
So I'm going to cry all night and day long. :tcry: :tcry:

neatoman 07-27-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1487553)
The consensus right now is that Shredder & his mutant henchmen (well, Baxter, Rahzar, & Fishface, anyway) are all mutated into one grotesque monster. Kraang influence has come up as well.

So in that case I'm not really seeing them getting unfused, I guess that would be... An interesting way of cleaning out old characters...

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Originally Posted by Fang Wolf (Post 1487565)
If Shredder mutated into "Disgusting thing"
So I'm going to cry all night and day long. :tcry: :tcry:

Not like it hasn't before though.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YHI_EjauDo...s1600/33-4.jpg

Powder 07-27-2015 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1487567)
So in that case I'm not really seeing them getting unfused, I guess that would be... An interesting way of cleaning out old characters...

Actually, I think that's gonna be their way of de-mutating his whole rogues gallery at once. Splash the beast with retro-mutagen & boom, now you've got Xever, Bradford, etc all back in their human form, no longer freakish slaves to Saki.

Metalwolf 07-27-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1487577)
Actually, I think that's gonna be their way of de-mutating his whole rogues gallery at once. Splash the beast with retro-mutagen & boom, now you've got Xever, Bradford, etc all back in their human form, no longer freakish slaves to Saki.

It's possible, but somehow this feels too much like a fatal swan song for the guys (at least the henchmen.) Shredder might survive in a degraded form to bring back later (one last time) but the three henchmen guys I think are done. Especially since the show looks like it's moving towards what looks like new baddies (the Triceratons and Dimension X guys) and maybe later Agent Bishop and the anti-mutant stuff. Hanging on to these guys (besides Shredder) would feel redundant, especially since the three henchmen haven't really been effective fighters for a while now.

Powder 07-27-2015 07:13 PM

That's exactly my my point though...

If they're de-mutated, they no longer have to hide/rely on Shredder for survival & can escape his clutches, which would be their exit from the series altogether, presumably.

Assuming things go this way, they're not gonna get killed off, they'll just bail.

Ninturtle 07-27-2015 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1487606)
That's exactly my my point though...

If they're de-mutated, they no longer have to hide/rely on Shredder for survival & can escape his clutches, which would be their exit from the series altogether, presumably.

Assuming things go this way, they're not gonna get killed off, they'll just bail.

Isn't Bradford Loyal to Shredder because he's his master and isn't Xever loyal because he was bailed out of prison by Shredder?

Metalwolf 07-27-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1487606)
That's exactly my my point though...

If they're de-mutated, they no longer have to hide/rely on Shredder for survival & can escape his clutches, which would be their exit from the series altogether, presumably.

Assuming things go this way, they're not gonna get killed off, they'll just bail.

They wouldn't bail. Baxter might, but not Xever and Bradford. Bradford is too loyal to want to leave, and Shredder always holds the threat of returning Xever to jail if he ever tried to leave. Plus Shredder has money and connections that Xever needs to maintain his gang ties.

Too much says they'd stay after de-mutation.

Edit: Ninjaed by Ninturtle. But yeah, they wouldn't bail.

Powder 07-27-2015 07:55 PM

Bruuuuuuh if Shredder does this himself, says f**k it all & combines himself with them without any regard for their well being, do you really think they'd be loyal to him if they came out of it alive? No way! Besides, just because there's history with him doesn't mean they value the relationship they have with their abusive master more than they do their long lost humanity. Rahzar & Fishface have already been replaced by Bebop & Rocksteady anyway, & my guess is they'll be all The Shredder is left with, assuming he survives this & they play some part in things.

I mean really, the second they become humans again, they'd see no reason to stay. They're loyal to him because as mutants they have no other choice. He gives them a place to stay, & missions through which to get their anger out. If he's down & out, pulling sh*t like this as a last ditch effort, his post-mutiny resources would be limited at best, so I doubt they'd be concerned.

Splinter the boss 07-27-2015 08:24 PM

I understand what you both are saying. They are loyal to shredder. However, when asked by Raphael why he was evil, what did he say ?

He responded by saying that a job where he gets to crack skulls every day pleased him, not “I am too loyal to shredder". And fish face has taken too many beatings from Shredder, especially in "the legend of the kuro kabuto ", to stay loyal to him if he were to turn human again.

There are so many reasons why Rhazar would betray Shredder.

1.Bradford was treated badly by Shredder when he was Dogpound.

2. Shredder didn't care about his mutation. He just thought his mutation form had his advantages in “ panic in the sewers".

Anyway this thread is about Shredder, not the others. You haven't given your opinion ninturtle.

ssjup81 07-27-2015 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1487619)
Bruuuuuuh if Shredder does this himself, says f**k it all & combines himself with them without any regard for their well being, do you really think they'd be loyal to him if they came out of it alive? No way! Besides, just because there's history with him doesn't mean they value the relationship they have with their abusive master more than they do their long lost humanity. Rahzar & Fishface have already been replaced by Bebop & Rocksteady anyway, & my guess is they'll be all The Shredder is left with, assuming he survives this & they play some part in things.

I mean really, the second they become humans again, they'd see no reason to stay. They're loyal to him because as mutants they have no other choice. He gives them a place to stay, & missions through which to get their anger out. If he's down & out, pulling sh*t like this as a last ditch effort, his post-mutiny resources would be limited at best, so I doubt they'd be concerned.

Bradford I could see remaining loyal if that's the situation. Xever, no.

jenna 07-30-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1487438)
Do I want it to happen? No.

Do I think it will happen. Quite possibly. Odds are by now 50/50.

How will I react? By spraining my eyes from rolling them too hard.

This - 100%

Before they mutated Karai, I really believed that there were limits to who was "mutatable". Now, nothing would surprise me. No human is safe.

Mew 07-30-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1487503)
I saw the clip, and it was a robot shredder, not a mutant.

Can you link the clip?

Amaranthus 07-30-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MewMeow (Post 1488702)
Can you link the clip?

Robot Shredder was from a toy commercial, Jesus Christ.


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