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neatoman 08-02-2015 04:21 AM

So what's the point of showing the monsters still being alive at the end?
 
So the show is kind of infamous for introducing characters that never return or at least don't come back in any meaningful way. The Turtles battle all these monsters and nearly every time they're shown to still be alive at the end, promising a follow up that will never happen.

What is the point of that? It just creates more and more unresolved plotlines, it's pretty frustrating to be honest. Think about it, what does this actually imply? Look:
  1. Snakeweed is still probably trying to eat people
  2. The cockroach thing may very well regenerate
  3. The Newtralizer is still alive (granted, he'll probably come back)
  4. The mushrooms are still around
  5. Pizza face was ultimately proven to be real in the Mondo Gecko episode
  6. The Creep was implied to regenerate
  7. The Chimera is still haunting Northampton

So why even imply their survival if they're probably not going to come back?

Candy Kappa 08-02-2015 04:34 AM

Cause it's a children's show.

The Turtle Terminator 08-02-2015 06:18 AM

Because (hopefully) the writers are focusing on more important plot lines like Karai and Shredder and not so much the characters people dont wanna see. Characters like Newtrawlizer get extra episodes with characters like Slash because we the fans wanna see those characters more so than we wanna see Spider Bytez or Cockroach Terminator.

BubblyShell22 08-02-2015 07:17 AM

Showing them still alive means that they will come back eventually even if it may not be right away.

matteso586 08-02-2015 07:53 AM

I don't know about you, but I think the Creep and Chimera will team up.

Vicky82 08-02-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by matteso586 (Post 1489573)
I don't know about you, but I think the Creep and Chimera will team up.

Na, it should be Creep and Dream Beavers teaming up but then they turn on each other referencing Jason vs Freddy movie. :lol:

Cure 08-02-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1489552)
Cause it's a children's show.

Preeeeetty much. And so they can bring them back whenever they feel like it.

saintsaucey 08-02-2015 09:41 AM

Spyderbitez and snakeweed are great original creations so I am glad they are still around. If cockroach terminator shows back up I hope he is in his original form and not what he was right before he died

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-02-2015 12:41 PM

So they can be ready for new episodes, easier to sell toys if they aren't de-mutated and forgotten...

BabyTurtles 08-02-2015 01:02 PM

So they can maybe use them again when they don't feel like making another villain model?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-02-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1489667)
So they can maybe use them again when they don't feel like making another villain model?

Yeah, it's cheaper to reuse...

Tarris Vaal 08-02-2015 01:24 PM

Its hardly a problem exclusive to TMNT though :) I mean how many other superhero series (live action or animated) will forget to finish off their villains?

It generally only happens in movies (and even then....)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-03-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal (Post 1489681)
Its hardly a problem exclusive to TMNT though :) I mean how many other superhero series (live action or animated) will forget to finish off their villains?

It generally only happens in movies (and even then....)

Same with many comic books about heroes and superheroes.

NoName999 08-03-2015 07:56 PM

I like how the only villain who's more or less dead is the Rat King.

And by like I mean ugh.

ssjup81 08-03-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1490079)
Same with many comic books about heroes and superheroes.

Yeah. That way the writers can bring the characters back if the plot calls for it.

TLP 08-04-2015 01:47 PM

It's actually pretty bleak when you think about it. Some of these guys came really close to killing the turtles, who just barely defeated them....and they can't ever die. They're still out there killing dozens if not hundreds of more people while the turtles have their back turned, fully unaware. (You saw those skeletons in the Chimera's nest.)

It's like a neverending battle.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-04-2015 01:52 PM

Also, it may (hopefully) come a day at the end of the series (or mid, befoere a new main-storyline replaces mutations) when the TMNT are able to cure most mutations.

CyberCubed 08-04-2015 03:27 PM

Does it matter now when the show is still young? If we were in Season 7 and villains kept coming back with no closure I would agree, but now in Seasons 1-2?

For example Rockwell disappeared after like the 8th episode of the show and didn't reappear till part of the Mutanimals much later on. Some characters can go gaps without reappearing.

miru 09-04-2015 07:39 PM

Some of them do get used again once or twice.

They want to turn them back to normal for a happy ending for them (especially Timothy). It also effectively kills the animal-to-monster ones by making them just normal animals, so they don't really die.

ABrown 09-05-2015 11:16 AM

I assume so that the toys are more likely to sell. Also, so that they can use the character again. In addition, like others have said, cause it's a kids show.

victory_angel 09-05-2015 12:18 PM

I believe Ciro said that not all mutated characters would get happy endings.

And with the time being spent with Timothy right now, it's still possible to restore him, the longer they take the less probable it would be. Part of this has to do with Roger Craig Smith being impossible to get a hold of, otherwise they would have had him more.

But the attitude of the turtles towards Timothy is like "He's not going anywhere anytime soon, so we'll cure him next time." And it's plausible that Mutagen Man has a darker purpose, particularly with Donnie's character development. Since it was heavily emphasized that Donnie was responsible for whatever happened to Timothy since had chosen to take him on as a student.

The Chimera (Turducken) was assumed to have been killed. We know it's alive and that it's terrorizing Northampton. But when they escaped they pretty much assumed it was killed off. So that is likely a character we will see again.

Dream Beavers...will also come back since there is more then one Friday the 13th film. So it is possible they could return and terrorize the Turtles and Co again maybe the mutanimals. But it's also possible that they could come back as Anti-heroes and haunt the nightmares of the more villainous mutants.

ssjup81 09-05-2015 06:11 PM

The Dream Beavers were more Nightmare on Elm Street than Friday 13th...

victory_angel 09-05-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1499915)
The Dream Beavers were more Nightmare on Elm Street than Friday 13th...

Thank you for the correction. Shows how much I pay attention to horror.

Avatar Yuffie 10-06-2015 01:40 AM

Action figures!!!

miru 10-06-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie (Post 1507414)
Action figures!!!

Playmates has realized they need to focus on core characters more. But I agree most are kept alive in case they make a toy.

MsMarvelDuckie 10-06-2015 01:22 PM

Or to sell more of the toys they already made.

Shark_Blade 10-06-2015 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by miru (Post 1507470)
Playmates has realized they need to focus on core characters more. But I agree most are kept alive in case they make a toy.

Oh yeah, like those mix and match mutants' limbs toys they issued last time. Someone should be fired for that. :roll:


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