"The good guys win, and the bad guys lose"
 

I just find that part of the theme song...off-putting. Considering that the turtles have lost multiple times in this show. Sometimes they don't exactly "win", but it's not really a loss either.

Its a kids show.

Repeat: Its a kids show. The good guys always win in every children's cartoon.

They may lose some battles along the way but they always win in the long run.

Technically they did. That "bad guy" (Robotnik) did "lose".

That aside, I wouldn't pay any attention to it at all. It rhymes. How many kids actually pay attention anyway? It's like the Animaniacs opening when they changed one of the lines to "We pay tons of income tax" from "While Bill Clinton plays the sax". I doubt any kid cared...but it rhymed...

You can lose battles and still win the war.

I wouldn't read too much into it. It's to make the theme song sound catchy, that's it. Besides, "the bad guys win and the good guys loose" doesn't sound right.

If it bothers you I recommend DVR'ing and fast forwarding through the opening theme song

Well if we're being honest here you might wonder what kind of lyrics "Heroes in a half-shell, Turtle Power!" are anyway.

It's just a theme song. Mikey is more then just "one of a kind"

The difference is that
"The good guys win, and the bad guys lose"
is one of the most general fiction themes ever.

All the tmnt theme songs have a few fallacies in them.

Even if it was a kids show or not, it doesn't mean anything. I hate when people use the "it's for kid's" excuse.

I believe this what the turtles themselves thought when they were younger and more naive. They believed that the good guys always won, and the bad guys always lost. Also, it rhymes.

Okay but you have to admit that in a show for kids, the heroes always win. The same even goes for most adult films as well like superhero films. It's basically the idea that good always conquers evil. The good guys always win while the bad guys lose. The turtles may not win every fight but by the time that this show finishes, there is no doubt that the turtles will win and it won't end with Shredder as the victor.

It's just a catchy little rhyme is all. Not everyone wins everything, but I believe the song is implying that at the end of the day, Shredder's going to lose the war.

With the season finale, this line shouldn't be in due to the fact that's it's a complete lie. :tlol:

To be fair, the supposed plan Ben Hurst had for season 3 of SatAM would have called for Snivley being defeated to the point where he would simply give up being a villain and join the Freedom Fighters. So they still would've won.

I remember from the Teen Titans theme song: "Never met defeat, and that's delight!" didn't always hold true in that show either.

Theme songs don't have to make sense. Hell, there was a lyric in the original Teen Titans cartoon: "Never met a villain that they liked." yet there've been times in the show where one of the Titans liked a badguy.

How the heck has this thread reached 2 pages? :lol:

This.

Well...that was pulled from the comics (Terra) and she wasn't known as a villain to them yet (comic wise). For the show, Terra started off as a friend and then later became a villain just to sorta become good again...so...doesn't count, right? Since she started off as a friend, they were trying their best to get her back.

I also recall "never fight unless someone else start" from 2003. Suh a cliche ("don't test this kids!") just to keep kids out of trouble. We saw Splinter after revenge already in season one.

"Donatello does machine"

Did he do it? Like REALLY do it?
All the time?


It's a kids show.

As the many examples before you will show you all the openings have something corny about them.

The OT had "They're heroes in the half shell and they're green"

2k3 first two lyrics always made me cringe I mean
"Mutant Chain reaction, living underground"

And Nick I both like and find this line hilarious "Get rocked with the shellshock pizza kings"

Favorite scenes in any opening funny enough always have Mikey.

OT knocking away the trash

2k3 riding on top of the battle shell before jumping off.

Nick then beginning scene of him running through Katas.