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Halloween Costumes that are banned in schools
these are the 8 Halloween costumes that are banned from certain schools across the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/w...id=iehp#page=1 1. JESUS CHRIST 2. SUPERHEROES 3. GEISHAS, SQUAWS, AND COWBOYS 4. SOMBREROS 5. TRENCH COATS 6. CROSS-DRESSING 7. SEXY NURSE 8. ANYTHING WITH A WEAPON Reasons for no Jesus Christ: Quote:
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so there you have it. I'm mixed on this, some of these like no sexy nurse, or trench coat wearing, or no weapons with costumes I can under stand. The sexy nurse, though fun is not very appropriate for school, and the trench coats can come off like "a gang" and some kids might be dumb ass enough to bring in a real weapons to make their costume more authentic, but the others I think are little much. Though the Jesus Christ and cross dressing costume ban might could come across as making fun of transgender and Christians for students who want to use the opportunity to be assholes behind the guise of "Halloween." (Does this mean dressing up like an angel is banned too since it is related to religion)? Also what does the school do with the students who dress transgender all year round? Will they make them wear clothes that denies their gender identity so as not to appear insensitive to the very life style they live? How about students who dress up like a character that is the opposite sex as them, will little Susie be made to take off her pirate customer because it's a boy pirate with a goatee? Maybe she should be girl pirate, but wait she looks like a serving wench now and not a real pirate and that's too sexual--send the little up start home! I used to love to dress like an native American and angel as a kid, I think it is sad kids can't do this any more in some schools. I can kinda under stand not wanting to promote negative stereotypes about Native Americans by why not use this opportunity to educate kids about what I real native American looked and acted like rather than banning it? Everything else--psssshhhhh! Come on people...all kids love dressing up as super heroes, geishas, ninjas, cowboys, ghosts and witches...why rob them of that? It's sucking the essence out of Halloween. And don't get me started on why sombreros being banned is ****ed up and stupid... Is every kid just going to dress up like Disney Princesses and Disney heroes? |
Some of this I understand like the sexy nurse and the Jesus stuff since it's separation of church and state. But some of this other stuff is f*cked up. Gotta love political correctness, right? So dumb. This is why I hate PC idiots. They need to grow up and get a life.
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Wait a second, superheroes are too scary for some children? I thought superheroes aren't supposed to be scary.
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Wait a second, schools get to dress up for Halloween?! Man... I'm jealous. I never got that xD
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Someone else's culture shouldn't be a costume.
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So- no Ninja Turtles then, huh? It's someone's culture, right? And it has "weapons". Yeesh, that just ridiculous no matter HOW you slice it. Or what about dressing as cowboys? Anyone here think real cowboys are gonna' gripe about how they're being stereotyped? Kinda' doubt it. Or real-life superheroes? Yes, that is a thing, BTW. Why would anyone care if a kid dresses a a witch? I AM a witch, and I LOVE it when people dress up as one, because no matter how outlandish or even stereotypical it might seem, it's all just FOR FUN! :trolleye:
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I agree that it's out of hand but that's what PC is all about. It's just a bunch of idiots with their heads stuck up their a**es who have to gripe and moan about stupid things. So what if someone dresses like a geisha, a ninja, or a samurai? What if the person wearing the Mexican costume is actually of Mexican heritage and is paying tribute to their culture? I see nothing wrong with that at all. But again, PC liberals have to f*ck with everyone's fun. This is why I hate America. Nobody can have fun and just relax anymore.
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In order to satisfy today's culture of increasing political correctness, it's better to ban Halloween altogether since everyone, in theory, will be culturally appropriating another's culture/subculture by wearing a costume. This is exactly what our heteronomous--- I mean, "autonomous" society needs in regards to self-expression.
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RR, I agree. Nobody can have fun anymore, and it's sad. |
I guess I wont be Mr. Taco this year. :P
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For example... http://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences4/accents And who says it's offensive to dress up as another culture? If my sister wants to wear a sari or a cheongsam, is that offensive? If I want to dress up as a samurai or a Viking, is that offensive? Sadly, it's really not as simple as "Someone else's culture shouldn't be a costume." |
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/costume Says nothing about costumes being intended to disrespect or respect; they're just a thing. |
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And your attempt at a slippery slope fallacy doesn't change that fact. As to answer your questions: Yes, all of those things could be construed as offensive, depending on the audience. Even Bubbly says that some costumes are wrong, provided they fall outside of her nebulous 'within reason' limitations. And honestly, no one should ever wear the American Flag. The only time it's appropriate to drape an American Flag on anything is when it's displayed over the casket of someone who died in service to the country. |
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If you don't like those examples, then how about this: A hypothetical movie is in production to tell a story about the Anglo-Zulu War (the British Empire's war with the African Zulu Kingdom). It's going to be period-accurate, which means the actors and actresses playing British roles will be wearing British costumes, and the actors and actresses playing Zulu roles will be wearing South African costumes. By your blanket statement, this movie should not be made. Or, should Duckie be offended at sexy witch costumes? It's her right to be. Should there be a ban to enforce absolutely no witch costumes, sexy, green-faced, or whatever? Eh, probably not. |
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I know quite a few other Pagans who are less than pleased with the popular culture's preconceived notion of what a witch is. I also know more than a couple of Jewish folk who take issue with the trope as well. And being from Mass...well, I have opinions on the matter also, seeing as my home state has a history of drowning, burning, and pressing people to death because people accused them of witchcraft. Don't even get me started on the whole Sexy [Place person/place/thing] here... As for your willfully obtuse strawman: Who's making the movie? Who's starring in the movie? Will there be someone there to represent both the British and Zulu interests involved? Or will this be like Adam Sandler's movie, where the Native American actors were so insulted that they left the set? http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/entert...lous-six-feat/ Nicki Minaj said it best: Quote:
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Rest assured, however, I would never use Adam Sandler in an example. Pretending he doesn't exist and is just a glitch in the Matrix is the best possible way of addressing his career. That's a fascinating article, however, sincere thanks! Wow... I'll add it to the list of reasons I don't watch his stuff. And... you are trolling me, right? How else could you introduce a Nicki Minaj quote into this talk? That's taking the Karaoke of Ideas to a whole new level... Let me then retort: I am politically incorrect, that's true. Political correctness to me is just intellectual terrorism. I find that really scary, and I won't be intimidated into changing my mind. Everyone isn't going to love you all the time. Mel Gibson One pop media idiot's words for another. Spoiler:
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Again...this whole conversation is way more comfortable with that Chrome App on. Why yes, Mel Gibson, to you being respectful of people IS intellectual terrorism.
Where as Nicki was directly addressing a very real problem in popular music today...the cultural appropriation of black culture by white popstars. Not that there hasn't been a long history of that in American music to begin with... Yeah, I'm looking at you, Elvis. I do, however, really relish the counter-quote from Gibson when presented with one from Nicki Minaj. There's just something so...tumblr about it. |
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There's also a huge difference between doing your research and get a costume that properly reflects what you're dressing up as compared to buying a racial caricature dollar store costume.
like every idiot that have horned helmets for their viking costume :roll: |
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I still hold to that blanket statement. But you've wandered us away from Halloween Costumes to entertainment et al...and I followed. Would you like to move the goal post further? |
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Here are some brilliant ideas for costumes.
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CKD, you are my new favorite person of the day! You know, I COULD be offended by "sexy witch", "scary witch", ""pretty witch" (for little girls), or any variation of "colorful witch" you care to dress as, but I'm NOT. Because like MOST actual witches, I recognize that it's all in fun, and that it's not meant to be taken as the real thing. Because it's OUR holiday, after all! What better way to promote "the cause" than to have everyone celebrate it with parties, food, and scary movies! Funny how that works, isn't it? Quote:
And yet, there are hundreds of us who actually OWN it, and walk out of that broom closet loud and proud every year come Samhain. And sexy witch? Why thank you! Usually only my hubby gets to call me that, but for one night of the year, I'm more than happy to let others join in, LOL! Two hundred years ago, I'd have probably been right up there on the gallows with the likes of Sarah Good, Rebecca Nurse, and others who were accused and hanged, stoned, burned, etc. Yet now we have kids running door to door on OUR night, asking for candy and WANTING to be scared and/or thrilled! Is it any wonder I'm not offended? It's the best advertisement we could ask for! And it's meant to be fun for EVERYONE. It's the one night when everyone dresses up, and boldly faces what scares us. I think that's a good message to spread, that the things that go bump in the night are far less frightening than the disgustingly PC world we live in today, where we can't even enjoy our own holidays without fear of offending someone. That goes for ALL holidays, BTW. Christmas, Halloween, Chanukah, Yom Kippur, Thanksgiving, Easter, etc.... Get the picture? |
Let me preface this by stating that it's hard for me to identify with people who feel strongly connected to, or protective of a culture. Other Australians may disagree, but I don't think there is a definable Australian culture, and I'm too many generations in to know much about my ancestry.
So... The problem with Minaj's position is that she is commercially exploiting the culture she wants to protect, and once something has entered into the pop culture sphere, it's a big ask to demand sovereignty. Halloween costumes on the other hand, are supposed to be for fun, so I guess if people are upset about something that is important to them being goofed on, it stops being enjoyable, so then what's the point? Dress as the Wolf Man instead. |
But therein lies the problem. When we start banning certain costumes, or saying what is and isn't acceptable or allowed, it just stop being fun AT ALL. Not to mention, what if the real vampires (porpheric anemia is a real disease, folks, and yes, it is the basis for fictional vampirism) or "werewolves" (Native shamanic skin-walkers, or those with the "lycanthrope" disease) get offended? What then? Do we ban dressing as ghosts or zombies for fear of offending the dead? (Actually, the holiday's original purpose was to banish or scare away malign spirits, so that's actually not too far off, LOL!) Heck, even Jack-O-Lanterns were originally meant to represent severed heads to scare away evil spirits! Does that mean we can't even dress as a pumpkin or Jack-O-Lantern? What about fairies? Will we start banning those costumes for fear of offending (and inviting the ire of) the "fair folk"? See how ridiculous it is?
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Holy sh*t. This place.
By some people's logic I should apparently waist tackle and maul anyone dressed like a comical Leprechaun, for sh*tting on my heritage. I think I'll just let it ride. Halloween's a f*cking goof. If I can endure the ridiculous but harmless farce that is St. Patrick's Day, I think the world can survive everyone dressing up and being goofy for one whole day. It's for kids and overgrown kids, 99% of which don't mean any harm and are just f*cking around. Jeez. |
Holy crap! I almost forgot the Little People! Thanks for reminding me, Leo, LOL! I'm pretty sure I've got a leprechaun or two in my family tree somewhere- it's the only way to explain why we're all so gosh-darned short! But like you, I'm not gonna sh*t on anyone's St. Patty's Day parade. Because that's just selfish and rude. Besides, as a certain pair of brothers once said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuqoVHIt0qk |
The only costume that offends me is this:
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St. Patrick's Day is probably among the most offensive things any person of Irish descent can endure, frankly. Shockingly, most of us plain don't give a sh*t. Let the rubes have their fun, they ain't hurtin' anybody. Well, aside from their own livers, but that's their personal business, if they wanna paint themselves green and try to hang in a league they clearly have no business being in.
It's not an attack, though, it's just people being goofy and having fun. Halloween's the same thing. I agree with Powder, though. THAT is highly offensive to all five senses. |
Well, Leo, there's always Cinco De Mayo! Imagine how the Latinos feel.... (Which is weird, because it's more celebrated here than in Mexico....)
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I side with Dan Savage on this:
Halloween : Straight People :: Pride : the LGBT community. It's a time to let your freak flag fly. Respecting others has never put a hamper on my enjoyment of the holiday. |
I find the super heroes and cowboy bans stupid. What are they suppose to dress up as? Business men?
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And it's hilarious that you put up a Nicki Minaj quote when she's the one flaunting her huge a** and is proud of it in that Anaconda video. So, I'm sorry, but I don't buy her B.S. People need to lighten the hell up and get over it. If someone wants to dress as a gangster, they have every right to if they like gangster movies. If someone wants to be black for a day, they can do it if they want to. I'm so tired of PC liberals telling us what to do and how to act. And I agree with your sentiment, Duckie, about other holidays. I may be atheist, but I don't care if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas. I just say, "Thanks" or "You too" and leave it at that, even if I do feel a little awkward about it. This is what's wrong with America. Nobody can have fun or do anything. People who get offended can f*ck themselves. I don't care if I offend anybody anymore. I'll say what I want and do what I want. And I agree that the movie TMNT costume is offensive as hell, but that whole movie franchise is offensive to TMNT. |
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Cowboys (and cowgirls) are part of the history of the USA! I used to like Lucky Luke as a kid, and at the end of the comics there was a small text that you could learn anything of 19th century USA history! I can understand some extrme things (like if someone dressed like Adolf Hitler) but people always take this to extrme point too. |
I thought it was hilarious when Eric Cartman dressed up as Hitler. I can see why some people would be offended by it, but they need to get over themselves and the past. No different than someone dressing up as Stalin or dressing up as one of the Presidents of our country. Should Obama be offended if someone dresses up like him? No, he should feel honored that someone would want to dress up like him.
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Actually, I would see most dictators of the 20th century (or maybe second half 19th century) being extreme. Don't care for kings and queens commanding wars in old days (like 17th-18th century) since no people from that time is still alive. |
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