Is this how it works or they set a bad example?
 

I know I know. This is something we always argue about on the forums but after I watched the new episode it really bugs me.

Love relationships in the Nick show.

This is how relationships work in real life nowadays? I am not really an experienced person with relationships as I never had any serious one but I am certain they don't work this way. I believe there are times when you develop a crush on someone the first time you meet them but that is so shallow. If you think about it that happened with all four. Donatello and Mikey fell for instantly for Renet and April and Leo ad Raphael became interested in Karai and Mona mainly because of their fighting skills. Mikey and Raph confessed their feelings (even if they didn't express it correctly) at the first given moment. No getting to know them better, no waiting a little bit until they can get a hold on their feelings, no... Instantly falling for them. Ok, Donnie's and Leo's feeling deepened within time. One point for that but the quantity of love relationships got out of control.

Big sigh...

I am so bitter about this topic. I like if a relationship is handled in the right way but these are not like that. They are rushed, shallow, mostly based on first sight which make me cringe. I know that you judge first on the looks and what you see but the inner side what they should have put the emphasis on. Yeah, kids show. Yeah, they are teenagers who like hot women. Hell, even grown up me like hotties who am I kidding? It just... saddens me.

What are your thoughts on this? This is a kind of relationship people need these days? The writers set a bad example?

I had a huge crush based solely on looks last year and it tore me apart. I didn't even know the girl. I'm over it now but I still can't help looking at her a lot.
Fml.

Well this is a show....and if I learned anything from shows, especially cartoons, is that not everything that happens to characters or how it happens, will ever apply to real life:lol: And that is why, my friend, I have not be the least bit disappointed in how they convey the Turtles' little crushes and relationships because I know it's real.:D

It's something called cartoon logic. And in the vast and creative world of cartoons anything goes!:lol:

Maybe if the show addressed the way the four go about it being "it's shallow, but, y'know, they're teenagers" and do it in a subtle enough way, then yeah, I could totally see it working this way. But relationships in this series always felt rushed and forced, and they expect you to take them seriously.
Oh, and to answer your question, they just set a bad example. Maybe Donnie or someone will learn this lesson and use that on April and she'll fall in love with him, but who knows. Probably not, though. That's too smart for this show.

Well my Mum and Dad got together the first time they met, it was Love at first sight for them and they got married a few months later. They have been married 42 years now.

So yeah it does happen to couples, some have a long happy marriage and some don't.

Don't base real life relationships over cartoons.

Tfw you actually try to add to a topic by pouring your heart out and no-one cares.

I don't really see how you couldn't have posted this as a comment in one of the already existing threads on relationships within the series.

But I'll humour you.

I don't think it's sensible to say how a relationship can or should work, even within fiction because every person/character is different. Therefore every couple is different.

Do I think it's a good idea to rush into things? No.

But then again if you're referring to the Raphael-Mona from last episode, they were in a situation where there was a real possibility they were going to freeze to death, and that does things to your judgement.

It's not like he's going to see her every day at school and let the relationship slowly build up. She lives halfway across the galaxy.

It was very close to a holiday romance really.

I have had relationships that bloomed on first meeting- one in particular was very intense, happened during a trip, and turned into a long-distance relationship, much like what Raph's may end up being. As for getting together quickly and having it last? Going on 18 years with the man who was not only my uh, "first", but we "got together" and he moved in within a week of our first date! So yes, it DOES happen, though not often. I've been mostly fine with how they are portrayed in the show, because I can look at them and go "yeah, okay, that can happen". Because I've lived through some of the same things.

This is pretty much how I feel, everyone is different, and every relationship is different.
I know a couple who "Feel in love at first sight" got married after only two months, and there still going strong. The guy still tells the story of spotting this woman walking across the Community Collage parking lot, and is so gushy and romantic that I think a lot of us women end up feeling jipped (is that a real word or a Southern thing).
Me and my husband? We were friends first. Then he feel for me, then I feel for him. I knew him 5 years before we married. Now we have been married 11 years and were very happy ( I was 19). Everyone's story is different.

I don't think the romance is bad in this show at all. Everyone handles love differently and most romances in fiction are like this because that's just the way it is. My relationship started out very slowly. We were friends first and then we became a couple. We've been together for twelve years now. Everyone handles it differently and everyone should move at whatever pace they feel comfortable with.

Thanks for the comments, guys.:) I was just really curious about your opinions.

It's good to know that there are relationships which become strong even if they were love at first sight. You know, I may be negative but this "by our first look I knew we were meant to be" just seem to be too cheesy and unreal. You must be hella lucky if things turn out good in that kind of relationship.:)

To be honest, it would have been just a new topic. It wouldn't have been relatable. I considered doing it but opening a new thread would draw more attention. And the relationship topic is something people like to argue about.:lol: That's what I think.

Ok, I didn't consider everything, sorry. You got your point. Now I think about it, every one of them wanted to confess. Well, some of them did - in a situation which they thought would be the last one with their love interests.

Sorry about your loss, Amaranthus. Somebody will surely come in your way. :D

I wish I was April. The turtles are um... Handsome...:ohwell:

Well, it is a cartoon. I wouldn't really call their crushes "shallow." Pretty normal, if not over top at times. Lots of people develop crushes, sometimes they grow, sometimes not, sometimes returned, sometimes not, we've all made fools of ourselves at some point. Don't overthink it. Have some fun, go mess around some, lol! :D

It's a cartoon for kids about talking turtles.

Calm down.

Cartoons are usually like that. It's all about looks, and if said love interest turns out to be a real jerk, they usually find out within the same episode, unlike real life when one usually finds out way later.

Exactly.

You can't do anything about the initial fancying of someone. If you're attracted to them, you're attracted to them.

But you CHOOSE to make (or not) the next move. You choose to date or marry or kiss or sleep with the person (provided they're up for any of that too of course).

Leo and Karai is the most realistic because when you're with someone for long enough, eventually all you think about is killing each other. Trust me on that.

To those who think they themselves are longing, desperate, or needy: Suck it up, you ain't missing much.

As for any kind of relationship angle on this show, yeah it's done dumb. A lot of things in this show are dumb. It's not a bad show, but it's a very dumb one. Having a half-dozen concurrent subplots about fake relationships is exceptionally dumb.

In fact, the only thing dumber than THAT would be extrapolating on the dumbness of it as a group. Oh, wait, here we are. Sigh.

I think we've all been there man. It's rough.

Real relationships are messy with all sorts of ups and downs and inbetweens. I don't think episodes with in depth relationship drama will go over well with many viewers. :tlol:

I mean, the whole April-Casey-Donnie thing is already borderline (or outright) exhausting for some people and the writers probably recognise that, which could be why we're not seeing much of the triangle this season. I can't begin to imagine what the show would be like if the Turtles had to deal with significant others on top of saving New York/the world/the galaxy.

Personally, I feel that it's been toned down since season 2. Seems the triangle isn't fully referenced or focused on unless the plot actually calls for it, hence episodes like Chinatown Ghost Story.

It has toned down and matured a lot - if anything its been more realistically presented since the last few episodes of Season 3 than at any other point. A brief example perhaps, but just look at the way Don and April interact in the latest episode for example (especially in the background). Its a lot quieter, a lot more subtle, a lot more friendly and honestly a lot more like the foundation for a real relationship.

Its been more presented now that they are at that sort of starting point where they are clearly friends, but you couldn't say for certain it wasnt developing further (or if it was developing at all).

Personally I'm very fond of this change of style. It keeps things hinting at the possibility its a blossoming relationship, without making it a central plot point or distracting from an already over loaded (plot wise) episode.


I also have to defend Raph's head over heels approach. I dont think Raph was presently unrealistically at all in that regard (I even know people who have fallen off the deep end into a romance like that). Its Mona I found to have been a bit harder to accept - she really did just switch from hate to love a bit too extremely, there should have been a bit more of a progression there.

I like how they are presenting the Don O'Neil relationship now as well.

Season 1. Donnie was acting like a boy who had just discovered love for the first time. But since he doesn't have any personal experience with being around an actual girl he didn't really known how to behave around her. And because of that he would come across as creepy. It's only the occasional moments when he's there as her friend that his love for her truly shines through.

Season 2. Donnie has experience what it was like to lose the girl he loves. And of course having the present challenge of having a rival for April's affections. All the Turtles make a serious mistake, and Donnie is determined to make everything right again, between April and himself. But even after that, there is a need to prove himself to April that he is more then just a friend.

Season 3. Donnie's been given an experience that has given him a first hand experience that his pursuit of April was not helping. While he still loves her he needed to take a step back from her and let her get to know both her suitors art her own pace. And April herself has started emotionally evaluating both boys. She loves and cares about both of them, but at the same time she also knows her future and her entire life will be affected by the one she chooses. And in a way part of her is afraid of love Donnie because if the look Kirby has out the window in Deadly venom is any indication. He doesn't seem to approve of April hanging around Casey... and he doesn't seem to mind April's friendship with Donnie. However that appears to be only so long as they are just friends at this time.

Season 4. Don and April have thus far just hanging out in some moments or talking as friends or Psudo Siblings. And things will certainly define themselves. But it does still seem to be an underlying fear of losing April to Casey. Because April was devastated that Casey would betray them and join Wyrm, but also Casey seemed to be tormenting Donnie most of all in the nightmare sequences.