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Vicky82 11-08-2015 03:47 AM
Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 3: The Weird World of Wyrm
 
My turn to make a thread :D

I don't know what's happened to Banhee as she usually does this.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/cb2603f8...9btro1_540.jpg

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/teen...-403-clip.html

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When Casey Jones discovers a hypercube, he accidentally unleashes a fourth dimensional being called Wyrm.
This fills filler to me and possibly going to be the strangest, weakest episode this season but it may surprise us.

Powder 11-08-2015 03:53 AM
As a huuuuuuuge fan of the old Wyrm action figure, I'm MEGA PUMPED!

Also, Hypercube, eh? A bit close to home... :tlol:

Shark_Blade 11-08-2015 05:49 AM
"Mikey Has Shellacne" felt like a filler too but look at how that turned out. I'm cautiously optimistic on this one.. :)

Is hypercube related to Cybercubed by any chance? :shifty:

Vicky82 11-08-2015 07:19 AM
It's up on I Tunes.

I just watched it (someone put it up on Tune.PK).

It was the most strangest episodes ever but it was funny.

The Fugitoid has his own training room using holograms and the Turtles were fighting Bradford, Dogpund and Rahzar. It was awesome.

They get food by thinking, using this machine

The Turtles new show to watch is Bradford old 80s show which looks like it's referencing Hulk Hogan's Rock and Roll Wrestling.

In this cartoon Bradford kissed a guy dressed up as a woman :o

I don't think Raph fans are going to be happy that he wasted a wish and screwed up. :lol:

I think Mikey fans are happy that he didn't screw up and that someone else did screw up. :lol:

Amaranthus 11-08-2015 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1517611)
In this cartoon Bradford kissed a guy dressed up as a woman :o
What are you? 12?

Vicky82 11-08-2015 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Amaranthus (Post 1517612)
What are you? 12?
No I was surprised that they got away with that in a kids show.

ShelleyQuick 11-08-2015 07:33 AM
What a crazy episode. I loved it. It was awesomely weird.

cookie jar 11-08-2015 07:35 AM
I just watched it. It was weird but funny episode.

Spoiler:
Well it was Donnie who wished the second wish. And at the end it turned out it was a good thing.

Vicky82 11-08-2015 08:17 AM
TMNT is the only kids show I watch (I don't count The Simpsons, Family Guy ect), I have no problem with it, it just surprised me that's all.

But what I don't get that they put Raph and Mona Lisa kiss off screen but allow to show Bradford kissing a man dressed up as a woman

The Happy One 11-08-2015 08:29 AM
Maybe to leave it up to the imagination?? I have no idea- I kinda wish they would have, though:ohwell:
Didn't they do that with April and Don in Northampton? It was like some odd camera angle so you couldn't tell.
They just like to tease, I guess:D

UnwiseOne 11-08-2015 09:16 AM
This was a very weird episode to me, I really enjoyed it. Though it feels kind of a waste of an episode to me.

Penst0ck 11-08-2015 09:21 AM
Can someone just do a list of what ppl wished for under spoilers, pleas? I just want to go through my work day happily imagining what this will all look like til I'm finally free.
Thanks.

Vicky82 11-08-2015 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Penst0ck (Post 1517647)
Can someone just do a list of what ppl wished for under spoilers, pleas? I just want to go through my work day happily imagining what this will all look like til I'm finally free.
Thanks.
Just don't come in this thread, if you don't want to be spoiled.

Jester 11-08-2015 09:51 AM
Thread cleaned. Keep it about the episode...

Oh...and Vicky...Bradford's show more a parody of this:
Spoiler:

TigerClaw 11-08-2015 09:53 AM
It's almost time. :)

Penst0ck 11-08-2015 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1517649)
Just don't come in this thread, if you don't want to be spoiled.
No I want to be spoiled. I meant put it under spoiler bar for anyone who doesn't.

Jester 11-08-2015 09:55 AM
Spoiler for Wishes...:
1. Casey Wishes for excitement, leading to the cube.
2. Donnie wishes Casey wasn't such an idiot.
3. Raph wishes for an anti-Wyrm laser cannon...which is against Wyrm rules.

TigerClaw 11-08-2015 10:00 AM
Here we go!

Penst0ck 11-08-2015 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1517658)
Spoiler for Wishes...:
1. Casey Wishes for excitement, leading to the cube.
2. Donnie wishes Casey wasn't such an idiot.
3. Raph wishes for an anti-Wyrm laser cannon...which is against Wyrm rules.
Thanks! Ooo man is this a recipie for disaster.

Vicky82 11-08-2015 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1517654)
Thread cleaned. Keep it about the episode...

Oh...and Vicky...Bradford's show more a parody of this:
Spoiler:
Oh right thanks, I never heard of it and I was born in the 80s too :P

But also it had someone called Master C obviously a parody of Mr T so the show will have references to the A Team too.

ssjup81 11-08-2015 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1517662)
Oh right thanks, I never heard of it and I was born in the 80s too :P

But also it had someone called Master C obviously a parody of Mr T so the show will have references to the A Team too.
I just totally busted out laughing when I saw the cartoon they were watching because I got the reference right off the bat. I never watched Chuck Norris' Karate Kommandos, but I knew about it.

That aside, I doubt they'll have A-Team references. They'll probably give nods to the old Mr. T cartoon...which I DID watch. lol

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...8&postcount=68

GoldMutant 11-08-2015 10:10 AM
Did... they just reference Vince McMahon with "it was me all long?"

So far I'm not impressed; I can already tell Casey is going to be terrible yet again. :roll: Come on, make the character cool, not a whiny spoiled brat.

Vicky82 11-08-2015 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1517664)
I just totally busted out laughing when I saw the cartoon they were watching. I never watched Chuck Norris' Karate Kommando, but I knew about it and thought of it right away.

That aside, I doubt they'll have A-Team references. They'll probably give nods to the old Mr. T cartoon...which I DID watch. lol

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...8&postcount=68
Thanks I forgot there was a Mr T cartoon.

saintsaucey 11-08-2015 10:18 AM
Yeah the first thing I thought of was the mr. T cartoon with the group of teen gymnasts.

TigerClaw 11-08-2015 10:30 AM
For once, Casey Jones did something smart.

It was a good episode.

GoldMutant 11-08-2015 10:37 AM
More entertaining than the last two weeks, but my gosh this episode was rushed and just as stupid as Dregg's motive. My twenty five cents worth:

While Wyrm was entertaining, he did border on being just as annoying as previous side characters such as Mondo and the recent behavior of Rocksteady and Bebop at the end of season 3. Probably the best new character of season 4 introduced for the fun factor, otherwise the episode is just sheer stupidity.

I can't believe how idiotic Casey has to be in this show; after all the destruction of the planet and freezing to death, he wants excitement. That's not how I think Casey should act, it's ridiculous of the lengths this character goes to just have fun. With that said, the wishes were entirely rushed and sheer perfect timing, no reasons for any of the wishes to leave an impact. I swear the characters have to be toned down on what to do to prolong the plots present, a filler like this that barely hints at the parts for restoring Earth shouldn't be part of it.

Although the Bradford beginning, the Bradford show and Wyrm make the episode entertaining, the rushed nature and overall no relation to the plot make this completely unwarranted by this point. Wyrm is a great addition at the very least, but overall I'm not impressed three times in a row now. Armaggon, don't fail me now next Sunday. :ohwell:

Vicky82 11-08-2015 10:41 AM
IGN Review

8.0

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/11/0...of-wyrm-review

Bitsy83 11-08-2015 10:48 AM
:teek::teek::teek: Well, that episode was super insane with a side of extra crazy....

I liked it and Dwight Shultz was pretty entertaining. You can tell he was channeling his inner "Disney Genie" to pull off the role.

Only thing is...I sort of got sad watching it too. While I was having breakfast, MTV was showing "Hook" and, of course, that's one of Robin Williams' most iconic movies. I couldn't help but want to hear Williams as Wyrm, only because A) his daughter is Mona Lisa and it would've been neat to see them working on the same series, even if not in the same episode and B) he was said to be a huge TMNT fan, so I'm sure he would've liked doing a guest spot. Shultz was good, but I couldn't help but think that Williams would've been even better, since Wyrm was clearly inspired by Disney's Genie from "Aladdin." Even though the show bombed, Williams was planning on returning to TV with "The Crazy Ones," so he might have had time to do an episode or two. I'm sure he would've had a lot of fun doing this; I just can't help but get a little sad whenever I think of him and his problems.

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't be posting stuff like this. BACK TO THE EPISODE!!! And even though it's already aired on TV, I'll put up spoilers for people who have yet to see it:

Spoiler:
It was a filler. Not a bad filler, since we might be getting introduced to these other "reality altering beings" later on, but still a filler. The animation was spot on and I'm sure the animators themselves liked doing these scenes. The holographic training room is a very nice touch; sort of X-men-ish with the Danger Room. Although Casey being drawn to the cube was kind of...stupid? Maybe they were pulling off some sort of subtle LOTR thing with Gollum or maybe his wish is what made him drawn to it. And Casey was pretty clever with the trick, but him being granted a bonus wish made it kinda of "Deus Ex Machina." It would've worked better if Casey had made the alliance, then used the THIRD wish. But I guess Wyrm could grant any wish he wanted since he was free of the cube, which makes less sense because he could've just changed his mind and I dunno, head hurting. Let's just go back to "That should've been the third wish" scenario.

Now I'm not saying I hated the episode. It was fun, entertaining, and did open up a possibility to new characters (the blob looking one might come back). I just think since we're only going to be in space for 13 episodes, they should try to link them all together, which is what I believe they said at the Comic Con panel. Hopefully it'll be the only filler we get in the arc.

Oh, and I guess we could chalk up the new Chris Bradford show as this season's cartoon parallel thingy. I remember those lame "Celebrity Animated spinoff" shows from the 80s/90s. At first I thought it was copying "Jackie Chan's Adventures," which was pretty decent actually, but once someone mentioned the Chuck Norris thing, I was like "Yeah, that makes sense." I bet when they return to Earth, Mikey will look for the rest of the episodes to watch till the end of season 4. I just thought they were going in decade order. Space Heroes was the 60s, that robot show was the 70s, and Crognard was the 80s. So I figured we'd get a 90s show, like "Reboot" with really blocky CGI animation or one of those "EXTREME" action shows. Either way, the Bradford show is cool.

And...what's with Fugitoid having those Anthony Warhol pics on his wall? Narcissistic much? Ah, well. It's neat.

Ninturtle 11-08-2015 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1517671)
More entertaining than the last two weeks, but my gosh this episode was rushed and just as stupid as Dregg's motive. My twenty five cents worth:

While Wyrm was entertaining, he did border on being just as annoying as previous side characters such as Mondo and the recent behavior of Rocksteady and Bebop at the end of season 3. Probably the best new character of season 4 introduced for the fun factor, otherwise the episode is just sheer stupidity.

I can't believe how idiotic Casey has to be in this show; after all the destruction of the planet and freezing to death, he wants excitement. That's not how I think Casey should act, it's ridiculous of the lengths this character goes to just have fun. With that said, the wishes were entirely rushed and sheer perfect timing, no reasons for any of the wishes to leave an impact. I swear the characters have to be toned down on what to do to prolong the plots present, a filler like this that barely hints at the parts for restoring Earth shouldn't be part of it.

Although the Bradford beginning, the Bradford show and Wyrm make the episode entertaining, the rushed nature and overall no relation to the plot make this completely unwarranted by this point. Wyrm is a great addition at the very least, but overall I'm not impressed three times in a row now. Armaggon, don't fail me now next Sunday. :ohwell:
Armaggon isn't going to premier next sunday , the half shell heroes special is airing. And I don't see the problem with Casey being excited abd wanting to have fun , he's a teenager exploring space, while he's a bit stupid and hasty at times it doesn't feel odd for the character as it reminds me of the 2003 Casey. And I still don't get your hate for Dreggs motives , he was selling drugs (spice which in Star Wars means drug ) the turtles screwed him over and cost him a ton of money and him being a crime lord got pissed and tried to killl the turtles, it seems like a valid motive to me.

NinjaPug 11-08-2015 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1517675)
Armaggon isn't going to premier next sunday , the half shell heroes special is airing. And I don't see the problem with Casey being excited abd wanting to have fun , he's a teenager exploring space, while he's a bit stupid and hasty at times it doesn't feel odd for the character as it reminds me of the 2003 Casey. And I still don't get your hate for Dreggs motives , he was selling drugs (spice which in Star Wars means drug ) the turtles screwed him over and cost him a ton of money and him being a crime lord got pissed and tried to killl the turtles, it seems like a valid motive to me.
Armaggon episode is next week. HSH is on the 22nd.

Ninturtle 11-08-2015 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1517679)
Armaggon episode is next week. HSH is on the 22nd.
Oh thanks , I'm now officially excited for next sunday.

GoldMutant 11-08-2015 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1517675)
Armaggon isn't going to premier next sunday , the half shell heroes special is airing. And I don't see the problem with Casey being excited abd wanting to have fun , he's a teenager exploring space, while he's a bit stupid and hasty at times it doesn't feel odd for the character as it reminds me of the 2003 Casey. And I still don't get your hate for Dreggs motives , he was selling drugs (spice which in Star Wars means drug ) the turtles screwed him over and cost him a ton of money and him being a crime lord got pissed and tried to killl the turtles, it seems like a valid motive to me.
Yes, he is appearing next week according to here:
http://epguides.com/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_2012/
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showat...tles/listings/
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlisti...orShow&desc=on

Armaggon appears next week and then the following week its the Half Shell Heroes. The latter already aired on Nick.com and everywhere else on platforms, not the actual channel.

Did Dregg's spice get revealed for importance? Did anyone bring it up for why he wanted it? No, they didn't; drug or not, "If it ain't in the show then it ain't in the show." ~Samuel Gavin (Sam's Channel on Youtube paraphrased to fit the topic). Last time assumptions were made, nothing went according, that would especially be Mutagen Man and the so called "Dark Raph", but more the former to me. It's a vague plot point that needs addressing by Dregg's next appearance, otherwise its petty reasoning of a spoiled kid who lost his favorite object.

As for Casey, his stupidity shouldn't and thrill for adventure be this irritating. He can be bumbling, but actually focused I want to see. The fact he was this foolish for that wish is contrived, I don't see why he needs to do that. I stand by my point, the bits of points of plot don't get addressed and needs to do.

kelligrafie 11-08-2015 11:03 AM
Wouldn't have given it 8/10, think IGN are going a bit far up somebody's backside with that rating. I'd probably go as high as 6.5/10.

Wasn't terrible, wasn't great. It felt very rushed to me. One of those episodes where an extra 10 minutes would really have helped with pacing.

The Good
  • The holodeck with Bradford, Dogpound and Rahzar was a great intro scene.
  • Wyrm is an interesting character. Very out there. There's the obvious comparison with Genie from Aladdin because he's so whacky. But for me, he more reminds me of the character 'Q' from Star Trek. He was a rogue character, you couldn't call him outright villain, but he wasn't a hero either. He would randomly show up and create a really tricky scenario for the Enterprise crew to get out of. Didn't answer to anybody.
  • Astro-Zombies? Very cool.
  • We get to see a bit more of Fugitoid's ship.
  • The animation is getting better and better. Some lovely little sequences.
  • No Apritello or Capril or love triangle rivalry.
  • Mikey's new TV show obsession?
.

The Bad
  • Yeah, said it before but the pacing was very hurried.
  • The wastage of the wishes by Donnie and Raphael. A bit reminiscent of when we saw the turtles' fears with Fungus Humungous. If that episode annoyed you, then the way they handle the wishes in this one, probably will too.
  • The end wish from Casey breaks the rules of good writing.
    Spoiler:
    Wish your characters INTO danger, never wish them OUT of danger because the viewers/readers WILL feel short changed
  • Not enough Fugitoid, although that's a personal preference really.


Did anyone notice that when they were watching the Chris Bradford show, that behind Raph, Fugitoid has David Hockney pop art portraits of himself?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTTha3uWwAQ3nLL.jpg

Ninturtle 11-08-2015 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1517686)
Yes, he is appearing next week according to here:
http://epguides.com/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_2012/
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showat...tles/listings/
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlisti...orShow&desc=on

Armaggon appears next week and then the following week its the Half Shell Heroes. The latter already aired on Nick.com and everywhere else on platforms, not the actual channel.

Did Dregg's spice get revealed for importance? Did anyone bring it up for why he wanted it? No, they didn't; drug or not, "If it ain't in the show then it ain't in the show." ~Samuel Gavin (Sam's Channel on Youtube paraphrased to fit the topic). Last time assumptions were made, nothing went according, that would especially be Mutagen Man and the so called "Dark Raph", but more the former to me. It's a vague plot point that needs addressing by Dregg's next appearance, otherwise its petty reasoning of a spoiled kid who lost his favorite object.

As for Casey, his stupidity shouldn't and thrill for adventure be this irritating. He can be bumbling, but actually focused I want to see. The fact he was this foolish for that wish is contrived, I don't see why he needs to do that. I stand by my point, the bits of points of plot don't get addressed and needs to do.
It's not the reasoning of a petty kid who lost his favorite object it's the reasoning of a gangster whos deal got screwed up, and the importance of the object was revealed he was selling it for millions of [ insert alien currency here ] , it makes sense for a gangster to want to kill someone for messing up their deal. And how would they say Dregg was selling drugs . It's a kids show so they have to keep things subtle, I thought it was pretty neat how they did it too. I still don't mind Caseys excitement and idiocy but I see where you're coming from on that point.

The Happy One 11-08-2015 11:12 AM
This episode was pretty wicked!

Casey seemed off, though at some times; I don't know if it was just me...

But, overall the episode- like these last few- have been fun.:D

I love the new show they were watching!!! It was hilarious.
-Chuck Noris references all over
-Master C!:lol:
It was priceless, really.

Then I couldn't help but feel Mikey was extra adorable with his little tongue sticking out and kicking his chubby feet while watching the show...Dwaaaw:lol:
*Ahem*

What I loved...

Anywho...I thought Wrym was awesomely crazy! He reminded me of some Bill Cipher kinda character- kooky and really, really- well- weird.

-Donnie and April talking like regular best friends appreciation!!! Yes, I love it!

-I also loved that they had things going on in the background. It was just the little things that made you smile while other stuff was going on:)

-Mikey cuteness (and not messing up) :D

-Donnie's various expressions were priceless! Heck, all of there's were!
-Leo being called Captain, tho:tthumbsu:
-Oh! And that holographic training was a very awesome touch. Great job guys!

-April still being an independent, boss charcter appreciation

-And, as usual, be-a-utiful animation!!!

What I found...displeasing

-Casey was rather...meh the first part. He seemed too immature. But towards the end, he was pretty cool so all is alright.

-I wish *wink* *wink* that it didn't feel a tad rushed. I know- and this is a bummer- that they only have so much time and those dumb 'Ricky Dicky and whatever their names are commercials' get in the way, but, overall it was great:D

Excited for Armaggon!

GoldMutant 11-08-2015 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1517691)
It's not the reasoning of a petty kid who lost his favorite object it's the reasoning of a gangster whos deal got screwed up, and the importance of the object was revealed he was selling it for millions of [ insert alien currency here ] , it makes sense for a gangster to want to kill someone for messing up their deal. And how would they say Dregg was selling drugs . It's a kids show so they have to keep things subtle, I thought it was pretty neat how they did it too. I still don't mind Caseys excitement and idiocy but I see where you're coming from on that point.
Even if creative, there's no hinting at it is my issue. Unless the spice is explained in the future for its importance, it just doesn't seem great unless Dregg went bankrupt from what they accomplished for accidental stupidity of running into him. Might be me, but whatever is presented to me I look at until either explained or the character is finished. Until then, I just want an explanation of the spice, without it being a mere reference to the subject matter of Star Wars or real life.

Either way, I just want an explanation and if the next episode's description is a given, hoping Dregg has reasons. Armaggon, please don't disappoint! :ohwell:

kelligrafie 11-08-2015 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1517691)
It's not the reasoning of a petty kid who lost his favorite object it's the reasoning of a gangster whos deal got screwed up, and the importance of the object was revealed he was selling it for millions of [ insert alien currency here ] , it makes sense for a gangster to want to kill someone for messing up their deal. And how would they say Dregg was selling drugs . It's a kids show so they have to keep things subtle, I thought it was pretty neat how they did it too. I still don't mind Caseys excitement and idiocy but I see where you're coming from on that point.
Dregg has to be OTT ruthless, he's a gangster. He can never show weakness, to anyone. The price or rarity of the drug is irrelevant. I heard a story of a kid who accidentally scratched a random car on the street with his bike. Complete accident. Only the car belonged to a really rough family and they went and beat the hell out of him. They probably weren't even bothered by the scratch and it was nothing personal against the kid, they just had a reputation to uphold. True story. That's how it works.

I think Casey in this episode has an element of Gollum to him. You could argue there was a little bit of subconcious manipulation from Wyrm there, to make opening the box appealing. Like Mikey and the hypnotic Pizza Face offspring. "Eatttttttt me."

Amaranthus 11-08-2015 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1517672)
IGN gives every episode of this series a good review. It's really doesn't mean that much.

cookie jar 11-08-2015 11:25 AM
Did anyone notice some similarities with 'Meet the Wigglenog', episode from 'Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!', show Ciro Nieli and Brandon Auman worked on?

TheMasterTurtle 11-08-2015 11:47 AM
I enjoyed seeing wyrm have an episode. Always one of my favorite characters that never was in any show (Cept for the commercial)

Very fast moving ep but it's up there with my favorite filler episodes.


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