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shuriken 11-24-2015 07:46 PM

Xenophobic backlash
 
http://usuncut.com/news/9-hate-crime...media-ignored/

I think it's super messed up the way some of these bigots are going about hurting and assaulting people for their beliefs and or appearance. On a lighter note this: (9th article snippet)

“It’s a teachable moment,” Ahmadiyya Muslim Community spokesman Salam Bhatti told the Associated Press. “As we do raise awareness of attacks in mosques, we will see mosques do not respond in violence. Islam teaches us to teach peace.”

Also anybody think the U.S. state governors denying refugees are ever going to change their stance? Can they even do anything legally to stop them?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-24-2015 08:39 PM

For a nation that was heavily populated by immigrants over the years, parts of America's population have always been astonishingly racist and/or xenophobic.

Locking Japanese up in internment camps during WWII, the plight of the Chinese in San Francisco, Jim Crow laws and "separate but equal"... the list is long and embarrassing. I used to think America wasn't racist anymore, but I grew up.

Powder 11-24-2015 08:49 PM

What about "No political or religious topics" don't you guys get?

Prowler 11-24-2015 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1521791)
What about "No political or religious topics" don't you guys get?

This...

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1521789)
For a nation that was heavily populated by immigrants over the years, parts of America's population have always been astonishingly racist and/or xenophobic.

Locking Japanese up in internment camps during WWII, the plight of the Chinese in San Francisco, Jim Crow laws and "separate but equal"... the list is long and embarrassing. I used to think America wasn't racist anymore, but I grew up.

Well, multiculturalism isn't exactly a cakewalk. Whenever you put people of different ethnic groups, nationalities and religions together in one country there's bound to be some conflict at some point or another. You don't hear or read about racism in a country like Estonia, per example, because pretty much everyone there is white and an ethnic Estonian. So who'd they be racist against?

snake 11-24-2015 09:16 PM

Xenomorphs need to leave our system

#deportthealiens

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-24-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1521795)
This...


Well, multiculturalism isn't exactly a cakewalk. Whenever you put people of different ethnic groups, nationalities and religions together in one country there's bound to be some conflict at some point or another. You don't hear or read about racism in a country like Estonia, per example, because pretty much everyone there is white and an ethnic Estonian. So who'd they be racist against?

Man, I haven't even heard of Estonia. :teek:

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1521798)
Xenomorphs need to leave our system

#deportthealiens

Snake's got the right idea. :tlol:

Prowler 11-24-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1521799)
Man, I haven't even heard of Estonia. :teek:

Really? I know it's small, but it's not exactly in the end of the world. It was once part of the USSR.

Nations I forget that exist are places like Tuvalu and St. Kitts and Nevis, per example.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-24-2015 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1521800)
Really? I know it's small, but it's not exactly in the end of the world. It was once part of the USSR.

Nations I forget that exist are places like Tuvalu and St. Kitts and Nevis, per example.

I freely admit, the smaller satellite nations don't really stick in my memory until they end up in the news.

Papenbrook 11-24-2015 09:53 PM

This is why we are getting a World War III. It's so sad.:'(

snake 11-24-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken (Post 1521815)
This is why we are getting a World War III. It's so sad.:'(

Someone preordered a world war three?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-24-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1521818)
Someone preordered a world war three?

The Free Republic of Antarctica is on the rise...

snake 11-24-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1521819)
The Free Republic of Antarctica is on the rise...

F*cking penguins are at it again trying to claim Antarctica as their own

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-24-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1521820)
F*cking penguins are at it again trying to claim Antarctica as their own

Pretty sure the Emperor Penguin has already orchestrated the slaughter of all human scientists. As soon as he brokers an alliance with the Polar Bear Kingdom, that's it; it's all over.

We'll be f***ing doomed.

Leo656 11-24-2015 10:51 PM

Racism isn't going away, it's ingrained in human DNA. Human beings all evolved from tribal cultures, and that tribalism, that "Us Vs. Them" is too big a part of how we existed for thousands of years to suddenly evaporate in a few decades just because "we all know better now". Since people first crawled out of caves, things like "They look different than us," "they have more stuff than us," or even, "We live Over Here and they live Over There" were good enough reasons to storm in and kill everybody you saw, anywhere in the world. It's really only the last little while that it's been much different.

People can co-exist for a while, but when things are particularly bad for one group of people, they'll inevitably lash out at another, "more different" group of people. Maybe that will go away eventually, but that's not going to be for a long, long time.

I mean everybody's smart enough to know better, it's just easy to lash out when you're pissed off. It's too much a part of who we are as a species.

Klunk1234 11-25-2015 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy;1521799]Man, I haven't even heard of Estonia. :teek:


Cylons, then you need to take Geography classes or buy an Atlas.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-25-2015 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=Klunk1234;1521922]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1521799)
Man, I haven't even heard of Estonia. :teek:


Cylons, then you need to take Geography classes or buy an Atlas.

Uh huh. I sure do. My life is in irreparable ruins due to a lack of Estonian knowledge.

Tell me, Klunky, how will knowing about Estonia improve my financial situation, my sex life, my interpersonal relationships, or my sense of morality?

Sherlock Holmes says it best:
Spoiler:

"You see," he explained, "I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it. Now the skillful workman is very careful indeed as to what he takes into his brain-attic. He will have nothing but the tools which may help him in doing his work, but of these he has a large assortment, and all in the most perfect order. It is a mistake to think that that little room has elastic walls and can distend to any extent. Depend upon it there comes a time when for every addition of knowledge you forget something that you knew before. It is of the highest importance, therefore, not to have useless facts elbowing out the useful ones."

"But the Solar System!" I protested.

"What the deuce is it to me?" he interrupted impatiently; "you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work."

Prowler 11-25-2015 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy;1521971]
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Originally Posted by Klunk1234 (Post 1521922)

Uh huh. I sure do. My life is in irreparable ruins due to a lack of Estonian knowledge.

Tell me, Klunky, how will knowing about Estonia improve my financial situation, my sex life, my interpersonal relationships, or my sense of morality?

Sherlock Holmes says it best:
Spoiler:

"You see," he explained, "I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it. Now the skillful workman is very careful indeed as to what he takes into his brain-attic. He will have nothing but the tools which may help him in doing his work, but of these he has a large assortment, and all in the most perfect order. It is a mistake to think that that little room has elastic walls and can distend to any extent. Depend upon it there comes a time when for every addition of knowledge you forget something that you knew before. It is of the highest importance, therefore, not to have useless facts elbowing out the useful ones."

"But the Solar System!" I protested.

"What the deuce is it to me?" he interrupted impatiently; "you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work."

It might not be relevant to those aspects of your life... but then again what is? So you think the only knowledge that people need in life is how to socialize, manage money and know that stealing and killing are wrong? As a Turtles fan, I doubt reading and watching every different adaptation helsp any of those aspects of your life either, but yet you probably still do it. If people only knew about stuff that is related to their job, then mankind would be even more ignorant, and ignorance is dangerous. Plus, knowing where a European country is on the map is something you can learn in a couple of seconds. It's not rocket science. Sounds like you're just making up excuses for your ignorance.

I speak for myself, but I find it odd and sad when someone who's well educated doesn't know simple facts like pointing France on a map or who Leonardo da Vinci was.

Cure 11-25-2015 03:33 PM

Dude didn't know about Estonia. Is this really an argument worth having?

Candy Kappa 11-25-2015 03:38 PM

As much fun it is to ridicule american's knowledge about outside of America, maybe consider that USA is huge. With 50 states as mini countries of their own, a hand full of US Territories, Canada, Mexico and the many other countries In North and South America continents.

So a stab and a jest is fine, but don't go full douche about it...

Prowler 11-25-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1521995)
Dude didn't know about Estonia. Is this really an argument worth having?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1521996)
As much fun it is to ridicule american's knowledge about outside of America, maybe consider that USA is huge. With 50 states as mini countries of their own, a hand full of US Territories, Canada, Mexico and the many other countries In North and South America continents.

So a stab and a jest is fine, but don't go full douche about it...

I didn't ridicule him, despite being surprised he hadn't heard of it ever.

And who knows if Klunk isn't American? His location doesn't reveal his country.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-25-2015 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=Prowler;1521992]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1521971)
It might not be relevant to those aspects of your life... but then again what is? So you think the only knowledge that people need in life is how to socialize, manage money and know that stealing and killing are wrong? As a Turtles fan, I doubt reading and watching every different adaptation helsp any of those aspects of your life either, but yet you probably still do it. If people only knew about stuff that is related to their job, then mankind would be even more ignorant, and ignorance is dangerous. Plus, knowing where a European country is on the map is something you can learn in a couple of seconds. It's not rocket science. Sounds like you're just making up excuses for your ignorance.

I speak for myself, but I find it odd and sad when someone who's well educated doesn't know simple facts like pointing France on a map or who Leonardo da Vinci was.

Oh, you silly silly children. There is a huge difference between knowing where France is on the map and where Estonia is on the map. There is a huge difference between knowing who Leonardo da Vinci was or who Taavi Rõivas is.

Not everything they teach you in school is ultimately important, nor is everything you need to know taught in school. Learn the discipline you need to educate yourself, and then do so in the fields and areas that you need. I do not yet have any need for knowledge of Estonia, and I know how to educate myself if/when that need arises.

Knowledge for the sake of knowledge alone quite often leads to assh0les with a superiority complex. And looky what we have here!

Prowler 11-25-2015 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy;1522000]
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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1521992)

Oh, you silly silly children. There is a huge difference between knowing where France is on the map and where Estonia is on the map. There is a huge difference between knowing who Leonardo da Vinci was or who Taavi Rõivas is.

Not everything they teach you in school is ultimately important, nor is everything you need to know taught in school. Learn the discipline you need to educate yourself, and then do so in the fields and areas that you need. I do not yet have any need for knowledge of Estonia, and I know how to educate myself if/when that need arises.

Knowledge for the sake of knowledge alone quite often leads to assh0les with a superiority complex. And looky what we have here!

Calls people silly children and then the others are the ones with superiority complexes. All I did was trying to understand your POV better. No need to get a nerve struck. And the thing isn't really you not knowing where a specific country is, but it probably being part of a bigger picture.

Me knowing where a country is isn't knowledge for the sake of it. Being European, it's advisable for me to know which countries compose my continent, I'd say. Not to mention I'm a fan of history.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-25-2015 03:58 PM

[QUOTE=Prowler;1522003]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1522000)
Calls people silly children and then the others are the ones with superiority complexes. All I did was trying to understand your POV better. No need to get a nerve struck. And the thing isn't really you not knowing where a specific country is, but it probably being part of a bigger picture.

Me knowing where a country is isn't knowledge for the sake of it. Being European, it's advisable for me to know which countries compose my continent, I'd say. Not to mention I'm a fan of history.

Prowler, I apologize. I assumed you were going off on me, but if I was mistaken, my sincere apologies. I've been sleep deprived for about a week now so my social skills may be a bit off par. :tlol:

With smaller satellite countries, they usually only enter my purview when somebody bigger invades them, like Georgia being targeted by Russia a couple of years ago...

Prowler 11-25-2015 04:00 PM

[QUOTE=CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy;1522004]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1522003)

Prowler, I apologize. I assumed you were going off on me, but if I was mistaken, my sincere apologies. I've been sleep deprived for about a week now so my social skills may be a bit off par. :tlol:

With smaller satellite countries, they usually only enter my purview when somebody bigger invades them, like Georgia being targeted by Russia a couple of years ago...

That's OK. I'm not offended at all. And to be fair, it can be hard to interpret text online considering you don't hear people's tone.

Well, Estonia isn't a country that shows up on the news very often, so I can see why it might not be on many people's radars.

Commenter 42 11-25-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1521992)
It might not be relevant to those aspects of your life... but then again what is?

...Sounds like you're just making up excuses for your ignorance.

I speak for myself, but I find it odd and sad when someone who's well educated doesn't know simple facts like pointing France on a map or who Leonardo da Vinci was.

Agreed. Pleading ignorance is not an excuse, especially online. It's just lazy.

An incredibly septic response in a thread about xenophobia; to say there's "just no gosh darn room in me brain!", and be proud?

Yikes.

Allio 11-25-2015 04:06 PM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...4)_-_Alien.jpg

I could understand a fear of aliens.

but then again, I'm a xeno-phile...and a robot-phile....and a...

Commenter 42 11-25-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1522010)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...4)_-_Alien.jpg

I could understand a fear of aliens.

but then again, I'm a xeno-phile...and a robot-phile....and a...

hahaha.

This.

Cure 11-25-2015 04:10 PM

Why is the quote function acting all wonky? I thought I was losing my mind when I saw Prowler and whoever constantly quoting themselves.

shuriken 11-29-2015 02:48 PM

^^Right?

It's good to know where countries are, helps get a better view of the world to know where everything is happening. I have noticed a lot of Americans have a very limited knowledge of geography (something I'm trying to get better at myself) more than people I've met from other countries. Although If they are traveling from a different country to the US then it would make sense now wouldn't it...
Anyway this backlash is sickening and I really hope more people would react in more constructive ways with dealing with their fears and uncertainties, but as Leo said such is life and it's a lot easier to do.

Klunk1234 12-04-2015 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=Prowler;1521992]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1521971)
It might not be relevant to those aspects of your life... but then again what is? So you think the only knowledge that people need in life is how to socialize, manage money and know that stealing and killing are wrong? As a Turtles fan, I doubt reading and watching every different adaptation helsp any of those aspects of your life either, but yet you probably still do it. If people only knew about stuff that is related to their job, then mankind would be even more ignorant, and ignorance is dangerous. Plus, knowing where a European country is on the map is something you can learn in a couple of seconds. It's not rocket science. Sounds like you're just making up excuses for your ignorance.

I speak for myself, but I find it odd and sad when someone who's well educated doesn't know simple facts like pointing France on a map or who Leonardo da Vinci was.

Well, said Prowler. And Cylons, I really don't care about what you do with your social life. Learning about a country is culture And being sleep deprived is not excuse to attack somebody you don't know in real life. If you need help talk to your psychiatrist, there is nothing wrong to talk to the "nut doctor". Maybe you're dealing with too much stress in real life.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-04-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Klunk1234 (Post 1524948)
Well, said Prowler. And Cylons, I really don't care about what you do with your social life. Learning about a country is culture And being sleep deprived is not excuse to attack somebody you don't know in real life. If you need help talk to your psychiatrist, there is nothing wrong to talk to the "nut doctor". Maybe you're dealing with too much stress in real life.

Psychiatrists are expensive; bourbon is cheap. Tastier, too.

Klunk1234 12-04-2015 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1521998)
I didn't ridicule him, despite being surprised he hadn't heard of it ever.

And who knows if Klunk isn't American? His location doesn't reveal his country.

Prowler: I'm a girl, not a guy. And yes, I'm not American.

pennydreadful 12-05-2015 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klunk1234 (Post 1524948)
Well, said Prowler. And Cylons, I really don't care about what you do with your social life. Learning about a country is culture And being sleep deprived is not excuse to attack somebody you don't know in real life. If you need help talk to your psychiatrist, there is nothing wrong to talk to the "nut doctor". Maybe you're dealing with too much stress in real life.

What the hell is a "nut doctor"? Cy, is this kid telling you that you need to go get your junk checked out? :lol:

Leo656 12-05-2015 12:31 AM

Either way, it's good advice. :trazz:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-05-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1524962)
Either way, it's good advice. :trazz:

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1524960)
What the hell is a "nut doctor"? Cy, is this kid telling you that you need to go get your junk checked out? :lol:

True story, in my town, we have a urologist whose name is Dr. Richard Chop. Yes he does go by "Dick Chop." :tlol:

Leo656 12-05-2015 12:36 AM

Does he take tips?! BWAH! :tlol::tlol::tlol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-05-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1524964)
Does he take tips?! BWAH! :tlol::tlol::tlol:

He will if you piss him off!

Or as Archer is wont to say... JUST THE TIP!

Leo656 12-05-2015 12:42 AM

"WHY aren't we doing PHRASING?!"

Klunk1234 12-05-2015 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1524960)
What the hell is a "nut doctor"? Cy, is this kid telling you that you need to go get your junk checked out? :lol:

Allow me to explain this, kid. Your :lol: keep it for yourself.


Good grief! (Meaning "Oh my Gosh") Like Charlie Brown from Peanuts said. (I hope you know what the Peanuts cartoons is) Nut or nutty in the United States of America means crazy and this is how they called the psychiatrist is not mean a guy's balls only. The expression "Are you nuts?"is heard in many Hollywood movies. Besides learning English, I also learnt these idioms by been in this country ( the U. S. A ) for many years. (I'm not American) By the way, dear Aussie, Americans called the urologist the "Ass-man". An urologist is the one that put his fingers inside a guy's rectum to check the prostate.


What is the slang for the psychiatrist Doctor in Australia? Like in many countries certain slangs varies from country to country.For example: Fanny is a common girl's name but in England is a woman private parts.

It's more easier to learn American slang for an AngloSaxon like you than a person from another country whose main language is not English like me. Sounds weird but you can get lost in translation in your own language.

Good day, mate like you Aussies said.

Candy Kappa 12-05-2015 02:48 AM

never heard of the expression "nut doctor", there's Nut Hut, though. Would thought shrink was the go-to word for a psychiatrist, the more you know I guess. :lol:
but damn that post was condescending, and that comes from me.


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