R mika butt slap removed from street fighter V
 

The developers have chosen to removes R mika's famous butt slap from the 'Street Fighter V' video game, how do you feel about this?

http://www.gamezone.com/news/street-...emoved-3430677

Is this really considered an issue with some people?

Its a fighting game.

A shame it had to go I suppose. But really in the world of Street Fighter, there is only one butt that means anything and that is Cammy's. Mika loses a butt slap, no big deal, but put pants on Cammy, and stuff flies up the wall.

We already have two SFV topics, mate.

This isn't too big of a deal honestly. She's still hot.

Who gives a sh*t?

I hate seeing companies bend to the will of loud mouth bloggers who don't even play the games they protest. I wouldn't care about the issue much if at all if not for that sort of pressure being a driving force behind this decision. I'm not too invested either way as I'm not a big Street Fighter fan, but it's slightly irksome to me.

And yet you basically still see all of Cammy's ass as usual. Why do feminists care about fighting games anyway?

All female characters in just about any fighting game out there are sexualized. Even Smash does it with Zero Suit Samus. Its to be expected.

Pretty much this. As a Street Fighter fan, I don't have an issue with them removing something that doesn't affect the gameplay at all, it's just that I feel they're pandering to SJW morons. Yes, I know they say there was no outside pressure for them to do this, which makes me wonder more why Mika's buttslap would make anyone "uncomfortable". Who else, other than overtly-PC people and SJWs could possibly feel "uncomfortable" with that?

I don't really see what the problem was with a taunting butt slap from what's essentially a fetish dressed wrestler, it kinda fits her. If anything, one would have thought the costume itself would have gotten an overhaul if anything was to be changed for "sensitivity issues".

But, it's their game so I guess they can do whatever. I guess that means we won't get Poison eventually.

yeah really makes no since, since Cammy's win pose in winng a round is still showing off her new and impove non flat butt lol. Yeah SFIV her rear was pretty flat. I think this is perhaps the best looking Cammy I seen, will I wish she had her leg strips, but Cammy has it all pretty much look wise in V.

Mika, since Alpha3 her thing was ways butt moves, from the flying peach, to her rubbing her butt. So it was strange they would remove it.

I don't really like to see anything censored, but I'm no R. Mika fan. I'm happy to see correct the sins of SFIV, and keep bringing back characters that aren't SFII staples.

Cammy's always been one of my favorites, but I'm not a fan of her new form. Doesn't look bad, just not like her. When you think about it, wouldn't the feminist thing be to embrace body diversity? Unlike, say, Mortal Kombat, the women of SF have always had very different forms. Why crank up the "TnA" on Cammy?

I can't imagine why anyone would care. It has no impact on the gameplay whatsoever and they've repeatedly stated it was an internal decision they weren't pressured into. But I guess if some folks have an axe to grind they're gonna grind it no matter what the facts are. :P

The way I see it, content like this has been removed/altered by game companies as long as video games have existed, and long before the Internet, social networks, or "gamer culture" were even a thing. It's business as usual.

I think SFIV mostly tone it done with the flat butt they gave her, In SFII, Alpha series, cannon strike, and even Street Wise with that Beer Ad, it was pretty rounded, than SFIV came out, and she had this flat butt, which was not really Cammy imo.

If you notice, the SFV Cammy is base on the Cannon Strike game Cammy right down to the empty gun holder. I really do like the new Cammy lol.

Oh, wow. There's some gamergate-level sh*t going down in here now.

I feel like I'm in a field of eggshells, right now.

Fighting games have always been aimed at teenagers, ones mainly looking for violence and sex appeal. That's the whole reason Mortal Kombat exploded in popularity in the 90's, and why the Dead or Alive franchise gets volleyball spinoff's.

Soul Calibur does the same thing with Taki's skin tight outfit and Ivy's breasts are so large now you wonder how she can hold herself up.

Id blame this one on the Feminists and SJW's like that anita sarkeesian girl

The company stated that this was an internal decision and people are still bugging out? Maybe they are trying to be more inclusive because they are sick of the FGC being so vitriolic.

It bothers me that they censured their own game and they caved into pressure of idiots. Now I'm not even a big fan of the serialization of Street Fighter, I always thought SF was more subtle with its sexualizing (well as subtle as Cammy in SSFII was able to be) but starting with SFIV they started going the route other fighting games did which is a shame and SFV is full blown DOA/Mortal Kombat/Soul Calibour level of fan service and it rubs me the wrong way, that's not what I expect from SF. But even then I still feel annoyed that they caved into pressure to censure their own stuff I don't know why, I guess it's the principle. Why don't they cave into pressure and make a very different SFV. I mean the outfits themselves are far more slutty and offensive than the actual buttslap so why is that being censored, Cammy's outfit has become ridiculous and so has the other females so why is slightly changing the camera angle to not feature so much of the costumes they themselves designed. Either design different costumes or show them off.

This whole Feminism vs anti-feminism is so annoying from both sides, I don't even know which side is dumber.

Exactly -- the game's producer flat-out said it was an internal decision and had nothing to do with outside influences. Plain as day. But that doesn't fit the outraged Gator narrative, so doubling down on conspiracy theories it is! :roll:

Also worth noting: a company choosing to change the content of their product is not, and can never be, censorship.

This is a total non-issue and changes nothing about the gameplay. It's so weird that some people actually care so much about a tiny, minor detail. Gaming is not under siege by "extremists" because some companies are trying to cater to more customers than one very specific demographic. That's just capitalism. Games are fine. Everything is fine. Relax.

Why on earth would they admit to caving in due to SJW pressure? That'd just encourage more of it.

If it's such a non-issue, then there's no need to criticize those who think it is.

Oh, lordy. :lol:

Where's this supposed "SJW pressure"? Seriously, do a Google search for "R Mika Street Fighter V". I'm sure there's been some criticism somewhere, but the outrage is overwhelmingly coming from the other direction -- pages and pages of gamers freaking out about "censorship" and cooking up conspiracy theories.

Hell, they didn't even technically remove the taunt -- they just changed the shot to focus on her face instead of her ass.

If we're seriously at the point where the game's producer can flat-out say they weren't pressured by anyone and the immediate response is a coverup theory... I dunno, man. I can't figure out why gamers would want to die on that molehill.

Capcom says they made the changes they did because they want the game to appeal to the widest audience possible. They're a business. That makes sense. They're 100% in charge of their product, nobody even could force them to change anything against their will, so I don't see a valid reason not to take them at their word.

Sure, it has absolutely nothing to do with this being on the heels of Dead Or Alive Extreme 3 being held back from western audiences for the same reasons.

Businesses lie about motivating factors constantly. That is capitalism. I don't see why we can be so quick to doubt politicians but every other money minded suit can be taken at face value during questionable times. Sh*t happens behind the scenes in all fields, but everyone is ready & willing to dismiss the sketchiness of this particular one because it's demographic is comprised of geeks.

There are actually some very compelling potential financial reasons for that decision made in this article and in the comments following it. That game series wasn't exactly a high seller, especially the previous game, and the costs of localizing, licensing, marketing, and distributing it in a market that it was never really designed for might not have even been profitable.

Capitalism is making money, full stop. Capcom has flat-out said that the (very slight) alterations they're making from the first beta are only to better appeal to a wider, younger audience. And I don't see much actual evidence to the contrary.

Yeah, that's all well & good, but they outright gave their reason in a now deleted post: https://archive.is/KmUZc

Capcom can flat-out say whatever they want. Some people believe it, others don't. It is what it is. There's enough going on for myself & others to doubt that reasoning.
That belief has no effect on you, so I don't see the point in going on about it.

I'm not saying it didn't potentially factor in to some degree, but ultimately the final decision would have been financial. A company would never shut down an entire source of revenue just over some potential Internet comments. More likely they ran the numbers and figured that the game wasn't likely to make a profit (or enough of a profit) in North America and didn't feel it was worth the hassle. If they thought it'd be profitable enough I am sure they'd release it in a heartbeat.

But yes, the games market is changing, that much is true. It's a big business and more developers are choosing to consider a wider, more diverse audience because they want to make as much money as possible. You can believe that games are under siege by "SJWs" if you really want to, but no CEO is going to shoot their business in the foot over some online criticism alone. If it's business, ultimately it's always about money. This kind of thing always happens when a market grows.

Be that as it may, their voice is very much being heard. Controversy/criticism can hurt business, especially when it is a perceived matter of prejudice/sexism. It's what gets stores that carry those items boycotted & so forth. Yeah, business comes first, but when mouthpieces can f*ck up that business, it's really more about politics, isn't it?

I really don't want to continue hashing this out with you. It's very clear we stand on two different sides of the issue. You're sure as hell not gonna convince me of anything.

Than what happen when Mortal Kombat 1 hit the stores, Nes took the blood out and Sega did keep it(With code) Sega out sold Nes by a large margin, and pretty much force there hand to keep the blood intact for MKII. Censured stuff has back fire in the past, and perhaps most gamers might like that close up lol.

controversy does sale though, and like it or not sex also sales.

The moon landing was faked by those pesky SJW, you guys.

Oh, it's all political. And like it or not, the so-called "anti-censorship" side is being every bit as political... possibly even moreso. Again, run that Google search, you'll find a ton of it -- they're making petitions and putting public pressure on the company to change their product back in order to suit their specific preferences. Just because their politics represent something you seem to agree with doesn't make it any different. Everything you just said applies every bit as much to that "side".

Whether or not you believe them or agree with it, Capcom made the decision and they seem to stand by it. And they're under way more pressure from the "anti-censorship" mouthpieces than anyone else right now and haven't changed their minds there, so make of that what you will.

That much is very clear. ;) I've said my piece and don't plan on spending my day running in circles.

:lol:

All hail our Reptiloid SJW Illuminati overlords!!

Yeah. And video games were created by the privileged cis-gendered straight white male in order to oppress women and minorities through rape culture in games like GTA and white supremacy in games like Legend of Zelda.

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And you thought this didn't deserve it's own thread :tlol:

It didn't, because just look at the absolute nonsense in here now!

This thread has already changed my perspective on so many people.

It all began with the cathode ray tube amusement device and and now it'll end with no longer having the camera focusing on Mika's cheeks.

Can one of the mods close this thread? It's getting ridiculous.

It started ridiculous.

And it'll end ridiculous. As deserved :P