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neatoman 01-04-2016 07:31 AM

How it all began
 
So is this the real "How it all began"? I just thought it was the first season VHS, not some hour long clip show.



If it is the real thing, it sure is a strange feature.

Candy Kappa 01-04-2016 09:41 AM

I was pretty certain that How it all Began was the first season cut into one special, as the episode with Baxter was cut, yet he's mentioned as they make the Turtlevan. But it's a while since I've seen it.

Meow 01-04-2016 10:33 AM

Yup according to wikipedia and other references on the web it happened like that.

MikeandRaph87 01-04-2016 10:37 AM

I always wondered, was it ever stated why A Thing About Rats was cut out of the serialized cut? Was Shredder's hit on Baxter too mature? Not relevant to the overall story aside from the Turtles taking Baxter's van?

Candy Kappa 01-04-2016 10:40 AM

my DVD lists it as 74 minutes long, so something had to be cut I suppose.

Meow 01-04-2016 12:11 PM

DVD? Now that's interesting...

From what I know this "episode" seems to have never made it for the german audience. Couldn't find any reference for a german version on the web and my dvd set doesn't list it either as it starts right off with the e01 "Turtle Tracks" and goes up to episode 169 to end season 7 with. So it seems there was no such episode as shown above in german, definately not on dvd, but ...

Now here's the most interesting part: The german title "Wie alles begann" does ring a couple of bells and it does refer to something from way back associated with the turtles I just can't get a clear relation. I already thought of the Panini sticker album if it had sections in there titled like that but for this I'd need the sticker album from back then, not sure if mine is still somewhere in the attic of my mum's home.

Candy Kappa 01-04-2016 12:44 PM

yeah, I got some FW DVDs as a gift, but it's the Scandinavian release, so no English dub. And to put it nicely, the Scandinavian dubs are... terrible, absolutely garbage. Especially the Norwegian ones where 2 of the Turtles have helium pitched voices.

So, I've only opened a couple of them when I showed them to my kid brothers years ago and not opened them since.

I got randomly 4 out of the 7 of the DVD releases, the episodes are not in any order, and is just dollar bin type DVDs. the first DVD have the How it all Began.

Meow 01-04-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1533756)
And to put it nicely, the Scandinavian dubs are... terrible, absolutely garbage. Especially the Norwegian ones where 2 of the Turtles have helium pitched voices.

Haha! I hear what you say :tgrin:

What's "FW" mean by the way? And looking at the last line of your previous post it seems those are more of bootlegs, could this be true? No idea of the covers and the entire presentation in general of course, just trying to count one and one together based on what I'm reading here without the intention of making something or someone look bad.

Candy Kappa 01-04-2016 02:29 PM

FW = Fred Wolf.

nah, they aren't bootlegs, just the usual crappy FHE/Lions Gate single DVD release.

https://www.laserdisken.dk/billeder/...3441383372.jpg
https://www.laserdisken.dk/html/bill...09563441383372

Meow 01-04-2016 03:21 PM

Thank you so much for this credible information :tgrin:

neatoman 01-04-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1533756)
the Scandinavian dubs are... terrible, absolutely garbage.

I haven't watched much of the Swedish dub but I know there's an episode where Leo calls April "Slyna" which roughly translates to "bitch".

CyberCubed 01-04-2016 04:42 PM

Foreign dubs of American cartoons should just not exist. They should just be broadcast in english.

ToTheNines 01-04-2016 04:51 PM

Can you go back to wherever you had been? I liked this place a lot better without the bile that is your post content the past few days.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-04-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1533839)
I haven't watched much of the Swedish dub but I know there's an episode where Leo calls April "Slyna" which roughly translates to "bitch".

There are two dubs into Swedish. One's for TV from 1990 by Mediadubb AB, and while using the "Hero Turtles" signature, the voices were popular. The other one is from 1991 for video by Sun Studio AS.

http://www.dubbningshemsidan.se/credits/turtles/

As you can see on Candy Kappa's picture, the "How it All Began" is in Danish, Finnish, Norwegian and Swedish. I had it in Swedish on video, it was just from season 1 without "A Thing About Rats". (got "A Thing About Rats" on video later)

neatoman 01-04-2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1533848)
There are two dubs into Swedish. One's for TV from 1990 by Mediadubb AB, and while using the "Hero Turtles" signature, the voices were popular. The other one is from 1991 for video by Sun Studio AS.

http://www.dubbningshemsidan.se/credits/turtles/

As you can see on Candy Kappa's picture, the "How it All Began" is in Danish, Finnish, Norwegian and Swedish. I had it in Swedish on video, it was just from season 1 without "A Thing About Rats". (got "A Thing About Rats" on video later)

I can only see up to season 3, how much of the series was dubbed into Swedish? Also, how much of the 2003 series was dubbed? I distinctly remember seeing the season 3 finale in Swedish and I think I might have seen some season 4 episodes on Swedish TV.

Candy Kappa 01-04-2016 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1533840)
Foreign dubs of American cartoons should just not exist. They should just be broadcast in english.

especially to kids that don't know English yet. :roll:

MikeandRaph87 01-04-2016 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1533855)
especially to kids that don't know English yet. :roll:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1533840)
Foreign dubs of American cartoons should just not exist. They should just be broadcast in english.

Cubism at its finest.

It goes both eays as you recall anime.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-04-2016 05:29 PM

TMNT in Swedish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1533854)
I can only see up to season 3, how much of the series was dubbed into Swedish? Also, how much of the 2003 series was dubbed? I distinctly remember seeing the season 3 finale in Swedish and I think I might have seen some season 4 episodes on Swedish TV.

1987 cartoon:
*TV 3 Sweden ared season 1-3 dubbed into Swedish by Mediadubb AB. Circa 20 episodes from seasons 1-3 were also released to video, dubbed into Swedish.
*TV 1000 aired seasons 4-5 in English, with subtitles (text) in Swedish. TV 1000 also aired the Vacation in Europe episodes, dubbed into Swedish by Mediadubb AB. By daytime, when the Sun was shining upon beautiful landscapes of the idyllic wellfare state of Sweden and the children were awake playing, TV1000 was a children and family-friendly TV channel, airing TMNT cartoon episodes and film and TV-series versions of Astrid Lindgren books like the Bråkmakargatan children and the Bullerby Children. By night, TV 1000 somehow got more adult... :)

2003 cartoon:
*Dubbed into Swedish by KM Studio, it was released to DVD-video starting in 2003. Starting on 17 January 2005, it began to air over Swedish Cartoon Network (where I watched season 1 in early 2005). I've never seen anything past-season 3 in Swedish (which is sad for children who liked the series, at least season 4 should be dubbed).

*2012 cartoon
*Began to air over Nickelodeon Sweden on 4 November 2012. Has also been released to DVD.

read more here

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenag...%C3%A5_svenska

This website

http://smdb.kb.se/

allos you to read about audio-visual media released in Sweden throughout the years.

Leo656 01-04-2016 09:28 PM

Ahem, it's called "Galactic Basic", and if it's a good enough language for every single sentient being in the Star Wars universe from Hutts to Wookies and everyone in between to learn it, then there's no excuse for anyone on Earth not to be fluent in it as well. We're one planet. C'mon.

sdp 01-04-2016 09:40 PM

Anime should be broadcast in Japanese.

CyberCubed 01-04-2016 10:32 PM

A lot of foreign language dubs of American cartoons are poorly done, and that's why the cartoons bomb over there and get canceled. They can be broadcast in english with subtitles (like how people watch anime with english subtitles), for young kids if they don't know english yet.

English is taught everywhere in the world, I'm sure most kids learn it in grade school even in foreign lands.

sdp 01-04-2016 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1534071)
A lot of foreign language dubs of American cartoons are poorly done, and that's why the cartoons bomb over there and get canceled. They can be broadcast in english with subtitles (like how people watch anime with english subtitles), for young kids if they don't know english yet.

English is taught everywhere in the world, I'm sure most kids learn it in grade school even in foreign lands.

You couldn't be more wrong about everything. English is taught in some countries not all and even then only a fraction of that learn English. Kids aren't going to read subtitles and neither would you as a kid that's why things are dubbed. Hell the US adults don't even like to read subtitles outside of a minority. And where do you get the information that cartoons bomb over there? And where exactly is "over there"? you mean the rest of the world? Some cartoons that bombed in the US like Top Cat, Undergrads, Cybersix were actually quite successful in other countries and they were dubbed.

That was some Donald Trump level sh-t you wrote right there.

Meow 01-04-2016 11:04 PM

The interesting thing here is that actually the both of you are right :)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-05-2016 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1534071)
A lot of foreign language dubs of American cartoons are poorly done, and that's why the cartoons bomb over there and get canceled. They can be broadcast in english with subtitles (like how people watch anime with english subtitles), for young kids if they don't know english yet.

English is taught everywhere in the world, I'm sure most kids learn it in grade school even in foreign lands.

Children don't care much for the dubs, especially not if they hadn't heard it in the original language.

Franchise-based cartoons are usually cancelled in many countries because the market is smaller. For example, the rules for children's advertising are stricter and there has historical been lesser TV channels. In Sweden there were two TV channels and three radio channels, all of them government-operated, up to the late 1980s-early 1990s. Children's advertising is banned in Sweden (but they can air from the UK instead).

Candy Kappa 01-05-2016 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1534071)
A lot of foreign language dubs of American cartoons are poorly done, and that's why the cartoons bomb over there and get canceled. They can be broadcast in english with subtitles (like how people watch anime with english subtitles), for young kids if they don't know english yet.

English is taught everywhere in the world, I'm sure most kids learn it in grade school even in foreign lands.

so... Kids that can't read yet nor understand a foreign language shouldn't enjoy cartoons?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-05-2016 01:47 PM

Some countries dub non-animated series, that's worse...

Sumac 01-05-2016 03:21 PM

"How it all began" was the first "episode" of TMNT that was shown on out TV. Though, they've interrupted it (somewhere at the end of 4th episode) for news broadcast and then never resumed.
After that, this channel started showing cartoon starting with the 3rd season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1533840)
Foreign dubs of American cartoons should just not exist. They should just be broadcast in english.

Post and posters like this shouldn't exist as they lower IQ of everyone on the forum.

Meow 01-05-2016 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1534321)
Post and posters like this shouldn't exist as they lower IQ of everyone on the forum.

Take it easy. You know that's not too fair, regardless of the individual background. Some see it this way, some see it differently. Being a non-native speaker I know what it's like and I'm not having a hard time relating to both opinions at all since I enjoy a lot of animations in their original language as well as their dubbed ones.

In example - and for those who are familiar with it - the second saw movie comes up with a situation in the early beginning saying "your son is in a safe place" while a safe is right next to the jigsaw character literally meaning it. In the german version you don't get this hint all as it is translated in a way like the conversation partner don't need to worry about his son. Maybe this hint of mine benefits all of the readers and posters in this thread :)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-05-2016 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=Sumac;1534321]"How it all began" was the first "episode" of TMNT that was shown on out TV. Though, they've interrupted it (somewhere at the end of 4th episode) for news broadcast and then never resumed.
After that, this channel started showing cartoon starting with the 3rd season.

/QUOTE]

In the UK?

ToTheNines 01-05-2016 07:57 PM

What the **** is up with all the people defending cubed's buffoonery and bigotry lately? Weird forum.

Shout out to you Sumac, wise words.

Leo656 01-05-2016 10:09 PM

Because CyberCubed is the heart and soul of this place, and without him it would have shut down ages ago.

As I've said multiple times: He's the hero this cesspool deserves. You all created him, now you have to deal with him.

ToTheNines 01-05-2016 10:15 PM

Right, right. Much as it sickens me, I have to admit his heel act spices this place up and makes it less boring from time to time.

I'm just perplexed by the two cases within a week of each other where mofos defended him and WITH (apparent) STRAIGHT FACES, tried to say he wasn't a chauvinist.

Truly the apex of internet weirdness.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-05-2016 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1534474)
Because CyberCubed is the heart and soul of this place, and without him it would have shut down ages ago.

As I've said multiple times: He's the hero this cesspool deserves. You all created him, now you have to deal with him.

He's not a hero. He's our god. An angry and capricious god, one who lusts after Supergirl and one who will smite you all with holy fire. Tremble, mortals, when you whisper his divine name.

ToTheNines 01-05-2016 10:37 PM

Ha.

CyberCubed is to Supergirl as Thanos is to Death.

Leo656 01-05-2016 11:39 PM

I will say with a straight face that CyberCubed is nowhere near as big a chauvinist as I am.

Sumac 01-06-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1534380)
In the UK?

No, Russia.
What's interesting, it seems channel that showed "How it's all begun" and seasons 3-7, never got around to dub seasons 1-2 and they were shown later, on different channel with different team behind translation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 1534343)
Take it easy. You know that's not too fair, regardless of the individual background.

Ignoring ignorance and stupidity is the sure way to allow them to spread and infect others. Especially since certain poster spouts almost nothing, but such questionable stuff.
And no, "but he has different background" has nothing to do with the lack of common sense and logic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1534525)
I will say with a straight face that CyberCubed is nowhere near as big a chauvinist as I am.

It's nothing to brag about or to be proud about.

Sage Ninja 01-06-2016 02:01 PM

you know the best way to get rid of trolling is to ignore it right? damned hard to do at times especially with Cyber cubed since he is basically the text book definition of an internet troll...

Meow 01-06-2016 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1534618)
Ignoring ignorance and stupidity is the sure way to allow them to spread and infect others. Especially since certain poster spouts almost nothing, but such questionable stuff.
And no, "but he has different background" has nothing to do with the lack of common sense and logic.

See, I do not mean to offend you at all, that said beforehand. And yes of course I see your point as well as another ones, hence the "regardless of individual background". It is us all together setting sails for a course of common interests based on working together, not against each other. It is difficult I hear you say? It is but what does "difficult" mean when it doesn't mean "impossible"? On the other hand would you have someone talk like that about you? Let that sink in first and do not take it personally because that's not what I'm here for at all :)

Yes I went offtopic so please forgive me dear other readers and posters as I hope that you all see the greater good and the heart being put in with such a post leaving all the best for all of you :tsmile:

PS: Ignoring is never a way, only a step back for a single being but no solution at all, no way to make peace with one another or yourself

Leo656 01-06-2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1534618)
It's nothing to brag about or to be proud about.

I...

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:trazz::trazz::trazz:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-06-2016 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1534989)
I...

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............................................. Disagree.

:trazz::trazz::trazz:

Next up...

#leo656thesexist tags in all the threads. You heard it here first.


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