Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 5: Riddle of the Ancient Aeons
 

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RIDDLE OF THE ANCIENT AEONS

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Best episode of the season! Great fights, cool story and some great emotional scenes :)

So...I love being an iTunes subscriber!!!

Anyway, that was pretty intense and I am loving Fugitoid more and more! I'm gonna put the next bit in Spoilers since not everyone has seen it yet.




Well, can't wait to discuss this with you guys! It's good to be back!!!

Here we go!

"It's been a week since something exciting" -Casey

Damn you Casey, seriously. :roll:

(Presses trap for no reason) Do they really need to dumb him down this badly? Come on, we already had the entirety of Wyrm's episode with that, do we really need to drive home the point with it all the time in the space arc?

Did Raph do a Three stooges move?

Aw Leo misses Splinter. And Mikey oh no...

Total Recall reference?

OMG!!!! Noooooo!!!!! poor Mikey. :o

Phew he's fine.

That hug!!!!!, that hug!!!! That hug!!!!!

Yes!!!!!! Mikey didn't press the button.

Casey :roll:

It was a good episode.

OMG!!! I loved this episode. It has to be my favourite so far this season. :D

It was so intense.

I noticed the Mr Spock hand gesture reference.

Heh, I was already thinking about a Back to the Sewers homage myself...

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I like this episode.

This episode was alright, I wasn't a huge fan of the turtles conflict as it kinda felt akward at times. But I really liked seeing the Triceratons again and seeing Mozar rage, So I liked it more than most episodes this season. I'm not really looking foward to next weeks episode as it's just filker in between story which gets really annoying.

God I hope we see demon april or corupted april in this. Would be pretty cool.

A nicely done episode with a great ending! Some of the plot reminded me a bit of the Eye of Zarnath arc from the OT, but it was a good way to pick up after a break. Also, seeing Splinter in a dream at the start of the episode is a good way to show how he might return later on.

Show Grade: 8/10

In terms of how well it's good, I'd say it ranges from being the best of the space arc or the second best, right behind The Outlaw Armaggon! I loved the attention to detail with the Aeons at the end, hooray for a Vulcan reference and a slinky gag with the Fugitoid. :lol: Also, any episode in regards to Triceraton focus is a plus in my book. I did have problems though.

The main gripe for this episode is the increase of aggression for the heroes; granted it's explained by April according the dialogue and at the end, but it got old fast. It doesn't help it happened for half of the episode and the dialogue coming down to mostly insults an elementary student bully would state. Granted, the callback to The Invasion with Leo hugging Raph was a welcome sight in addition to the city virtual reality for a few brief seconds.

If it wasn't obvious though from earlier, why the hell did Casey have to act like a kid seeking excitement? :ohwell: It really feels that Casey is trying to be way too optimistic based on the writing that it's extremely frustrating to contend with. Last time the excitement occurred, he almost got his friends hurt with Wyrm; even with the reset, I have to ask what is it going to take for Casey to stop acting like a child and mature up? As much as I don't like April too much in this series, at least she's serious when the time calls for it, so why can't Casey?

Overall though, it was a relatively up average episode and is among the best of the season for sure at this current time. If they fleshed out the planet a little more and maybe added in a little more elaboration on a few parts, this easily is the best episode thus far. However, with some concepts not well fleshed out to the fullest, it's right behind The Outlaw Armaggon! as my favorite episode, but barely.

I'd say it's at least a 7 or 6.5 out of 10, well executed but in some aspects could have been much better.

Who wrote this one? It was funny and all, but the end felt like a crappy video game with all boring exposition. And so rushed in the final scene!

Really loved Fugitoid again. His whole bit threatening to spank everyone had me laughing out loud.

I'd probably put this episode right before Armaggon and Wyrm. It was good, but I wasn't too amazed.

I just checked and Brandon Auman was the writer. Dude is so hit-or-miss.

That episode was pretty good and probably the best out of all that we had so far.
I think, though, out of everything in this episode April was my favorite. I'm really loving her character these days and she's gaining a lot more- for a lack of better word- personality. I just really enjoyed watching her this episode.

And Casey? I just learned to live with it. :ohwell: He could be better....they just need to take it down a few ten or twelve notches on the who 'I'm dumb' trope.

Man, poor Leo:( Misses his Daddy...
But the mini fight/hug between him and Raph was nice to see- though I think it happened a bit too fast. I liked that the planet brought out they're deeper thoughts- things they hardly ever voice. That was a great touch.

And Mikey...darn, for a minute I thought he was a goner! But good for the kid to stick up for himself, even if it was just the rage talking.

Hah, I did get a crack out of Don and Casey's little 'whose gap is bigger' argument:D I was trying not to laugh but..hey, it was a little funny...:lol:

And Don...man, he was thrown around a lot in this ep:tlol:
And, as usual, Fugitoid was such a treat!

Also really interested in that stone April took with her...Hmm...
Overall, great episode- a few bugs here and there- but nonetheless one of the best!

I missed the beginning of the episode, up until Mikey's helmet cracks open. What happens before then?

Anyway, for what I saw I thought it was okay. I don't remember laughing or finding much interesting. The two events that stood out were Leo hugging Raph and Fugitoid completely killing someone.
Seriously, who else is shocked that having a hero completely obliterate someone, and then turning it into a joke, got past the radar? Even if it was a nameless character (I think), that's still...just...wow. Most deaths so far in this series have been very serious and are usually the villains fault.
It's not a big deal, but this episode offered me so little to get excited about.
Also the turtles fighting against the demons reminded me of their very first fight in the series, when they kept getting into each other's way and couldn't work as a team. Have their abilities degraded that much?
Also, why does April only shoot things? She is a kunoichi, isn't she?
I do like the idea of a planet twisting their minds, but it was so glossed over and rushed.
5.5/10

Maybe you should watch the whole episode before you rate it. :ohwell:

The reason the turtles were fighting the Demon Bats that way (getting in there way, couldn't work as a team) because the anger (caused by the evil planet) was taking over there minds and making them unfocused.

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IGN Review is up 8.0

Yeah, dude, definitely watch the beginning and you'll understand it a bit better.

As for April using blasters and not her kunoichi skills...well we must remember that she is basically at only but level 2 of all things ninjutsu so...
I mean, she's not a bad fighter but she ain't an A+ fighter either so it's probably best to either rely on her developing powers or a blaster...Good observation, though.

It was interesting that April (along with Fugitoid) were the only two members of the team seemingly uncorrupted by the planet's effect. So that added extra weight at the end when Donny said "anyone can be corrupted by power" as April stares wistfully into the glowing Soul Star fragment.

Yeah, I was reminded of another moment from the OT 2nd Season. The bit where the Turtles turn on each other was very reminiscent of "Splinter No More" where they are under the influence of Shredder's device. And April has to call their attention to the fact they are being controlled.

Brandon Auman.

Did everyone noticed when

What's up with that?

It wasn't Mikey who set the booby trap off, it was Casey.

I have to watch it again but I expect Fugitoid just popped it back in off screen.

And the "planet of angry feels" doesn't affect the humans why exactly? :lol:

Maybe it affected Casey, but he's kind of like that normally anyhow... though I guess he is the new Mikey with touching stuff. But good on him for just accepting responsibility for doing it and not throwing an attitude.

The monsters turning into the aliens was pretty predictable early on, but not in a bad way. More the way that gets the anticipation going and ending with an "I knew it!"

Oh god, but the Leo-Raph hug... Dammit Nick and your ability to make a person tear up a touch over a half hour action-oriented cartoon. You guys are good. Raph saying what he did though... just that one line alone felt like a jump in progress between characters with the whole conflict between him and Leo and Leo's closeness with Splinter.



Didn't catch that. Enough going on after it I forgot about that piece. But it was cut off with a saw, so...cartoon magic I guess?

Although the way it was done made me laugh. "What's this do?" *arm taken off* "It does that."

Oh, yeah, that was such a nice moment. Good tonal callback to the last episode of Season 2 when Mikey jumps to embrace Raph who's furious over losing Splinter.

I guess it's a usual gag that a robot/cyborg could easily lose its arm an reattach just as easily, much like C-3PO in numerous occasions.

But yeah they could at least show someone help him reattach his arm or something. Maybe it got cut to save time :-?

BTW, you don't have to use a spoiler tag anymore, the episode has aired.

It did affect Casey. I guess it didn't affect April because she's half human half Kraang with psychic abilities.

I loved the hug and Leo saying 'I love you Raph' was adorable.

Possible.

Or, was thinking while watching, for women it simply feels like "the planet of PMS" and, well, nothing new there so she handles it. :tlol:


Although that place would be pretty convenient to point out at a later date. "Remember that planet?? I feel like that, so leave me alone!" :lol:

:lol:Never thought if it that way!

Today's episode was solid. I really haven't enjoyed the plots for season four, but I liked this one. I wonder if That line Donnie said at the end could be foreshadowing that.

:/
Still kinda disappointed with this season.
Yes, this episode was the best, and it's still early on, but I was hoping for a series of arcs that were connected, not just 'planet of the week'. They keep taking a step back from the emotional moments. That Raph/Leo scene should've been bigger than what it was.

Best thing about this episode is when Fugitoid was gonna pimp slap someone. Jesus, that had me rolling.

Yeah, was thinking likewise.

1) Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that April's psychic powers is what's protecting her from the planet's corruption. And I understand why Fugitoid is not affected

2) Isn't it weird that the Triceratons somehow know where the fragments are?

3) It seems that Bishop's design comes with the tuxedo's too. Just look at the flashback.

4) Let's not assume the worst, and assume that the thing April was given will get the gang out of a dire situation later. Or it would help her with the whole missing mother thing.