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Allio 01-15-2016 06:46 AM

10 Cloverfield Lane
 

The Deadman 01-15-2016 09:54 AM

Literally nobody asked for a Cloverfield sequel as the first one REALLY sucked.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-15-2016 10:05 AM

Well THAT was uninformative...

turtlefanforever 01-15-2016 10:10 AM

yeah?
 
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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1538199)
Literally nobody asked for a Cloverfield sequel as the first one REALLY sucked.

tell that to the makers or clevagefield!

Allio 01-15-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1538199)
Literally nobody asked for a Cloverfield sequel as the first one REALLY sucked.

"literally," literally?

The Deadman 01-15-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1538206)
tell that to the makers or clevagefield!

Cleavagefield would probably be a better movie lol.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-15-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1538208)
Cleavagefield would probably be a better movie lol.

Must be the porn parody...

TigerClaw 01-15-2016 11:17 AM

I liked Cloverfield, and will be looking forward to this one, I read that this film is not a direct sequel, but its more a blood relative to it, but set in the same universe.

Allio 01-15-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1538211)
I liked Cloverfield, and will be looking forward to this one, I read that this film is not a direct sequel, but its more a blood relative to it [Cloverfield], but set in the same universe.

-It is very common knowledge that the monster “Clover,” was a baby.

Clover’s mama is home, and she is angry

NinjaPug 01-15-2016 11:45 AM

Pretty impressive of JJ to keep this under wraps until 2 months from release.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-15-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1538219)
Pretty impressive of JJ to keep this under wraps until 2 months from release.

Agreed. Although it helps Star Wars probably runs pretty massive interference...

Foombamaroom 01-15-2016 02:52 PM

Cloverfield's a good movie the first time you watch it because you have no idea what's going on and you feel like you're with the characters. Second time? Nope. That's when it gets aggravating, and the shaky cam really hits.

The only thing I'm really worried about this movie is if they're stuck in that basement the whole time.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-15-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom (Post 1538278)
Cloverfield's a good movie the first time you watch it because you have no idea what's going on and you feel like you're with the characters. Second time? Nope. That's when it gets aggravating, and the shaky cam really hits.

The only thing I'm really worried about this movie is if they're stuck in that basement the whole time.

I think it's actually a conspiracy theory whacko bunker...

sdp 01-15-2016 08:49 PM

Man I remember the hype for Cloverfield, did the movie live up to it? maybe not but it didn't ruin it, it just didn't show us enough of what actually was going on to judge if it lived up to our dreams. This was done on purpose though so yeah I guess a bit of a disappointment for that reason but not necessarily bad. I never felt compelled to watch the movie a second time though but I guess I will before watching this movie.

Now this sequel looks to be about the same as the first, I'm already very intrigued but I'm also guessing they won't actually show us much of what is actually happening outside, even the tagline suggests that it's more about what happens inside the house. Still it looks fun enough and I can't believe this was a secret for so long, would love to get more surprises like this instead of 3 year waits like with Batman vs Superman.

Wildcat 01-15-2016 10:13 PM

Wow I was just thinking about Cloverfield a few days ago and wondering if they'd ever make a sequel or another movie anyway.

This looks cool but only if they actually show what's happening and legitimate shots of the monster.

I hate the whole "less seen the better" thing. No, that only works to build up a movie. By the end...show us whatever it is. Actually show it. Not just glimpses you have to pause either.

Etsyturtle2 01-16-2016 05:14 AM

e x a c t l y r I g h t . I h a t e g l I m p s e s .

ProactiveMan 01-16-2016 06:46 AM

Genius. It's like all the classic Godzilla movies right?! Nobody's interested in the parts where cool monsters trash the city while humanity tries desperately to destroy them. You watch those movies for the interpersonal relationships between inconsequential bystanders. Don't you?

Allio 01-16-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ProactiveMan (Post 1538445)
Genius. It's like all the classic Godzilla movies right?! Nobody's interested in the parts where cool monsters trash the city while humanity tries desperately to destroy them. You watch those movies for the interpersonal relationships between inconsequential bystanders. Don't you?

that's why the original Godzilla is still one of the best.

Etsyturtle2 01-16-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ProactiveMan (Post 1538445)
Genius. It's like all the classic Godzilla movies right?! Nobody's interested in the parts where cool monsters trash the city while humanity tries desperately to destroy them. You watch those movies for the interpersonal relationships between inconsequential bystanders. Don't you?

I watch it for the monsters, while the humanparts add to the story and flesh it out more.

The Deadman 01-16-2016 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ProactiveMan (Post 1538445)
Genius. It's like all the classic Godzilla movies right?! Nobody's interested in the parts where cool monsters trash the city while humanity tries desperately to destroy them. You watch those movies for the interpersonal relationships between inconsequential bystanders. Don't you?

That's a lot of fish

Foombamaroom 01-16-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1538467)
That's a lot of fish

Don't you dare reference that movie.

The Deadman 01-16-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom (Post 1538474)
Don't you dare reference that movie.

You didn't find the Zilla babies to be the cutest things ever even though they wanted to rip your face off?!

sdp 01-16-2016 10:38 AM

I'll take Godzilla 98 over Godzilla 2014 any day.


Anywho less is more, it's not that we watch Godzilla movies for only Godzilla fights, that would make very boring movies, while the human subplots can be vary in quality they don't put them there because they hate the fans but you can't make a movie of just kaiju fighting. Of course Cloverfield basically had no real scenes for the monster, so yeah they over did the whole less is more but the movie was always meant to be about the characters and not the monster just like Blair Witch Project was. This movie will also be more about the characters than the monster. It might also be the best choice, I mean we all have our own ideas of what "Cloverfield" actually is, how can it live up to all the hype?

Foombamaroom 01-16-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1538488)
I'll take Zilla 98 over Godzilla 2014 any day.

Fixed that a little bit for you. But I guess you can't fix bad opinions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wildcat 01-16-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1538488)
It might also be the best choice, I mean we all have our own ideas of what "Cloverfield" actually is, how can it live up to all the hype?

I don't agree with that. Godzilla wasn't kept a secret. Do we think any less of him? No.

It's just hard to take a monster movie seriously if you make it about the humans. There's a giant creature attacking the city. Eventually you have to give it the spotlight imo. They must have thought of some kind of origin even in passing.

Godzilla 2014 was disappointing. The build-up was great but it never pays off. The monsters are fighting...let's focus on humans recovering the bomb. :roll:

sdp 01-16-2016 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom (Post 1538573)
Fixed that a little bit for you. But I guess you can't fix bad opinions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That's sh-t is so annoying and got old ten years ago.

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1538674)
I don't agree with that. Godzilla wasn't kept a secret. Do we think any less of him? No.

It's just hard to take a monster movie seriously if you make it about the humans. There's a giant creature attacking the city. Eventually you have to give it the spotlight imo. They must have thought of some kind of origin even in passing.

Godzilla 2014 was disappointing. The build-up was great but it never pays off. The monsters are fighting...let's focus on humans recovering the bomb. :roll:


Godzilla 2014 was indeed disappointing but would focusing on the Godzilla fight more really have made the movie better? That movie had various problems.

You don't address the points that two giant kaiju fighting does not make a compelling movie. You need some story to set it up and you need humans for that. Also you can't compare Godzilla with Cloverfield, they're going for two totally different things. They did have some origin for Cloverfield you saw that with all the viral marketing, it had something to do with a Japanese company mining the sea but the actual movie was more about the characters dealing with the disaster and not about the cause of the disaster itself unlike say Godzilla movies which also needs to be more specific since not all Godzilla movies are a like.

Wildcat 01-17-2016 12:36 AM

@Sdp, I wasn't saying it should all be fighting no with no story. A plot is important but having a movie be all "less is more" with only quick shots of the monsters now and then is just pointless. Then why bother creating a monster.

Ya I do think Godzilla 2014 would have been better if they finally switched focus to the monsters in the last 30 mins or so. Seeing them duel it out in a well constructed fight would have been cool. It wasn't going to be a cheesy Japanese style fight.

It should have been catastrophic while the city and world looked on. Something scary. By that I mean like what the trailers portray. Remember "you're hiding something and it's gonna send us back to the stone age". That really induced a sense of impending doom. That forces beyond control are coming.

The next one is said to have King Ghidorah. So you'd assume it'd be more monster orientated. I just wonder how they'll explain a 3 headed dragon in a non silly way.

Anyway Cloverfield should bring a certain amount of fear. Like in the trailer when she looks out the door. Oh and when I say this I mean good panned out shots of monsters and such. I'm tired of the zoomed in thing. Give us a good scale scene.

Allio 01-17-2016 01:29 AM

personally, less is more i feel should always be used for these kinds of things. it's what make Alien and the original Friday the 13th such great films.

snake 01-17-2016 02:06 AM

I like the first movie honestly. It's a fun monster movie. The found footage element is a little annoying but it adds to the movie imo

Wildcat 01-17-2016 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1538704)
personally, less is more i feel should always be used for these kinds of things. it's what make Alien and the original Friday the 13th such great films.

Well it's not an issue in the Friday the 13th movies. We know it's a human. Jason is very visible unless you mean the unmasked moments which are good enough for those movies. (I know it's the mother in the first).

I think it's different in a monster movie. I know I'm in the minority although I have come across some others that agree...but that's the very reason I do not like the first Alien. Plus he's easily killed off. There's no final bout between them. Not in a traditional sense. She hurries to self destruct the ship, gets in the other and then he gets sucked out into space.

I would have had some kind of actual fight or chase or something. This is why I really liked part 2. 3 I can take it or leave it. I thought Ressurection was cool.

Leo656 01-17-2016 04:46 PM

So, generally action over suspense. Gotcha.

It's a way to go, I guess. I think it's more of a case-by-case thing as to what's best. Usually the first film in a series is more suspenseful, while the sequels rely more on action since the "mystery" is gone. Frankly I think that's fine.

From a storytelling and psychology standpoint, people tend to become more emotionally invested in something if there's a build-up and then a reveal, rather than going balls-out right away. But some people are impatient and want the "good stuff" right away. Makes sense, but I'm personally fine not being spoon-fed every single thing immediately or whatever.

Anyways, this ought'a be neat. I liked the first one but agree the first time seeing it is the best, and the shaky-cam sh*t is always awful no matter who does it. But I'm a huge fan of giant monsters as a concept so seeing more stories in that universe is intriguing to me. Plus, John Goodman.

Etsyturtle2 01-17-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1538488)
I'll take Godzilla 98 over Godzilla 2014 any day.


Anywho less is more, it's not that we watch Godzilla movies for only Godzilla fights, that would make very boring movies, while the human subplots can be vary in quality they don't put them there because they hate the fans but you can't make a movie of just kaiju fighting. Of course Cloverfield basically had no real scenes for the monster, so yeah they over did the whole less is more but the movie was always meant to be about the characters and not the monster just like Blair Witch Project was. This movie will also be more about the characters than the monster. It might also be the best choice, I mean we all have our own ideas of what "Cloverfield" actually is, how can it live up to all the hype?

Wow. Just wow.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-17-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1538838)
Anyways, this ought'a be neat. I liked the first one but agree the first time seeing it is the best, and the shaky-cam sh*t is always awful no matter who does it. But I'm a huge fan of giant monsters as a concept so seeing more stories in that universe is intriguing to me. Plus, John Goodman.

Do you see what happens, Larry!?

Wildcat 01-17-2016 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1538838)
So, generally action over suspense. Gotcha.

It's a way to go, I guess. I think it's more of a case-by-case thing as to what's best. Usually the first film in a series is more suspenseful, while the sequels rely more on action since the "mystery" is gone. Frankly I think that's fine.

From a storytelling and psychology standpoint, people tend to become more emotionally invested in something if there's a build-up and then a reveal, rather than going balls-out right away. But some people are impatient and want the "good stuff" right away. Makes sense, but I'm personally fine not being spoon-fed every single thing immediately or whatever.

Its not being impatient. It's wanting a good pay off after the build-up.

I never said I was against build-up. I want the endings to justify the build-up and some movies clearly do not.

TigerClaw 01-17-2016 10:51 PM

I actually like the Godzilla 2014 movie, I liked all the buildups to it, its like a Spielberg movie where it all slowly builds up til you see the monsters.

I bet this is what will happen with 10 Cloverfield Lane, The 1st half is the stuff in the bunker, then one person goes out and see a bunch of monsters outside.

chrisdude 01-17-2016 11:43 PM

I definitely feel like the climax of Godzilla 2014 was worth it. I think they paced that movie well, and actually fit in a lot of action sequences, throughout. But the final battle was spectacular. I remember the audience cheering, at points.

10 Cloverfield Lane looks to be worth a watch. JJ obviously doesn't want to make the same movie again, or revert to traditional kaiju, so this is his other take on the genre. I thought Cloverfield was great. And, although I agree repeat viewings aren't nearly as good, and I've only watched my blu-ray one time, it was a awesome theatrical experience. Well worth the ticket price. So, I'll give this the benefit of the doubt.

Leo656 01-18-2016 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1538905)
Do you see what happens, Larry!?

:lol: Dear Lord, one of the greatest things I've ever seen or ever will see. :lol:

"I just bought dee fahcking car last week! I keel YOUR fahcking car!" :lol::lol::lol: Just terrific. That movie is terrific.

The Deadman 02-25-2016 01:39 PM

J.J. Abrams Has Monstrous Plans For Third ‘Cloverfield’

TigerClaw 03-10-2016 09:44 AM

10 Cloverfield Lane right now has an 88% on Rotten Tomatoes.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10_cloverfield_lane/

Allio 03-10-2016 09:27 PM

just saw it, pretty good thriller. though wish for actual connections to the first.


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