Confused about Krang's Origin
 

In the beginning of the OT and if I'm not mistaken, on the box art for his action figure, we learn that Krang is the disembodied brain from an evil warlord from Dimension X who was banished to Earth for his actions. However, in the season 3 episode "Four Musketurtles" he shows us a flashback of himself with other brain-like creatures that basically imply he is part of an alien race ie the Utroms. Anybody have any other references to either of these origins? Which one is cannon? Should I just chalk it up to the other inconsistencies of the series?

Below is an image of the flashback.

The Season 7 episode where it shows Krang clones have their full bodies is canon as its written by David Wise, the head writer of the series.

The flashback is probably just an idea they kicked around and axed if they ever planned to bring Krang's race into the series which they never did.

It's the OT. I wouldn't expect some conspiracy over it. Probably just usual bad storywriting... Hey! What besides this beloved toon has bad writing but still contains an interpretation of the turtles hmmmm???

And that season episode about Krangazoids leads us to believe that those bodies are replica's of the body that Krang once inhabited? I haven't seen it in years, so that's why I'm asking.

Yes, that's in Season 7.

David Wise was the head writer/showrunner of the original cartoon. He wrote the first season and many episodes in all the other seasons.

I'm aware of who David Wise is and all that he contributed, but I'm still confused as to if those bodies grown by his clones were representative of the body that he himself once inhabited and was curious if it was stated that this was the case in the episode. My curiousness is furthered by the fact that Krang never regrew his body and how his clones were able to do so.

Honestly, the has so many contradictions and repeated ideas, you might as well assume a good chunk of the episodes take place in their own universe.

It's pretty much just inconsistency. The show is full of it, and this is not the only one. Arguably the most glaring.

I just laugh at that one with the mustache for now.

I like to joke that's Krang's father or grandfather. :lol:

"Krang, did I ever tell you about the time I defeated the entire Triceraton army in Dimension War II, using nothing but a paperclip and Santa's sleigh?"

The Dawn of Quanin.

In the S7 episode it is never stated that that's Krang's actual body, just that he grew a body. We can assume that his actual body is his brain self, in S1 he mentions he wants "his body back" and Shredder makes him his Android Body so we can assume that's the body he meant. It's a way to make sense of both episodes instead of ignoring a canon episode that actually takes place before in the series.

It's kinda interesting how Krang's origin is virtually the only debated topic of contradictions shown in the original TMNT series. Whereas the original Transformers (my other major passion) cartoon has seemingly endless debates. The whole "Who Is Cyclonus?" debate could start World War III.

Especially since there's so much more to Krang's backstory than just about if he had a flesh and blood body beforehand.

Who banished him? Why does he still hold power even though he was banished? Why didn't they try to stop him when he came back? What was up with his history with Shreeka? Did he know her while he still had a body? Why did he abandon her? What was he doing in the Andromeda Galaxy? What was the nature of their relationship, given that she wore her ring on her left finger and Krang kept the ring in the chest of his android body? And Drakus too. What happened there?

Worth repeating, who banished him!?

I always assume it was the Neutrinos who banished Krang from Dimension X. And Krang's army, Traag and the Rock Soldiers were still fighting the Neutrinos in Dimension X while Krang was stranded on Earth.

Krang has a lot of backstory in the original cartoon that's told across several episodes of the entire series. We never get to see what he did, but you can piece the pieces together and it forms a huge history of Krang.

Beserko designing the Technodrome with him, partnership with Shreeka, the Shockwave device from Season 8 that Krang wore as his birthright, the Krangezoid body he lost, meeting Shredder, Traag's war against the Neutrinos, Krang's slave farms from the Season 7 finale, etc.

Its funny, Krang's history is told piece by piece over 10 seasons. You just gotta search for it all like a detective.

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These were two designs rejected by Playmates for Krang's body, but it seemed like several ideas were thrown around where Krang is basically a severed head. I like the Stone Warrior vibe of the second one.

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I'd say there's more evidence that Krang is a disembodied brain.

The way the Rock Soldiers react meeting him for the first time after his banishment, the Clone bodies, the toy design and Arche Comics. Plus his yearning for a new body that's bipedal over the bubble-walker.

I've stated before in a similar thread that I believe it's possible that the more intelligent beings in Dimension X made it a habit of shedding their bodies in order to gain a higher perception of reality. Either that or it was just their way of walking around naked.

Oh jeez, can you imagine what an awkward parallel that would have been.

"Shreeeedderrr, why haven't you made my new clothes!?"

"Do i look like a frickin' tailor for you?"

for sure would have been his answer lol. Anyway, I found it a shame they never really could manage to settle for one way in Krangs history. I kind of like the theorie that he really is just a brainy brain, without any natural body at all.


Also the stuff with Shreeka, she wears the ring on her left hand, means they were dating or what?

I would have assumed married...whether it was a political marriage or romantic, I'm not sure. Somehow I got under the impression that Krang gave her the ring at some point, then took it back when he escaped

From what I recall, Shreeka wanted her ring for its power only. That would derail any sort of sentimental value of "Oh. He got this ring for me because he cares.." feeling that usually comes from obtaining a ring from a male partner.

I used to think that she either inherited the ring from her mother (Or picked it off of her dead finger after a violent dispute), or that Shreeka swiped the ring elsewhere.

Well, obviously it was no longer sentimental at that point, but I still question why she wore it on her left hand. Even when Shredder puts it on, he wears it on his right.

I've often thought this, too. I think that while there was some "surprise" at him just being a brain, it may have just not been expected at that point, as much as it was possible.

Maybe Krang just had a robot while in Dimension X which he refered to as a body.

Its kind of funny how both IDW and Nick tried to tie Krang into the Utrom origins.

- In IDW, Krang IS an Utrom and he's trying to revive his race.

- In Nick, Krang is also an Utrom but he discovered the mutagen and enslaved Utroms turning them into mindless "Kraang." So Kraang Prime and Subprime were also Utroms at one point.

In the original cartoon he's both Krang and part of a lizard/Krangezoid race.

And that upcoming crossover might retcon that. That "Kraang Sub-Prime and Krang are cousins" bit might have been a joke but if it isn't, well...

The Krangezoid clones developing bodies is no state that Krang had such a body.