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Foombamaroom 02-15-2016 12:28 AM

AMC's The Walking Dead
 
I don't think there's a real Walking Dead forum here, so I figured I'd start one.

For one, episode 609, 'No Way Out', which aired tonight is hands down my favorite episode of the whole show.

ToTheNines 02-15-2016 05:38 AM

Amidst the deaths and maimings, this episode had an awesome triumphant feeling to it. A lot of characters stepped up.

Was completely caught off guard by the Saviors sequence lol.

Although, the hatchet/hand scene played out WAY better in the comics. Also, didnt understand why "W" had a change in heart.

Foombamaroom 02-15-2016 09:54 AM

I liked the way the hatchet scene played out. In the comics, it's much more terrifying, while this was like a dream sequence. It's different, but nice.

But that ending montage of Rick's group making a last stand against the walkers... Probably my favorite moment in the whole show.

Slade 02-15-2016 04:33 PM

I think there's a thread for this show somewhere, it just gets no love.

Anyway, I do watch this, I just get extremely bored with it in the middle of the seasons usually. But this episode here, was f*cking fantastic!!

Zak The Neutrino 02-15-2016 09:42 PM

I think this last episode was one of the best of the series. I was starting to get bored with the series but this roped me back in.

Foombamaroom 02-16-2016 11:25 AM

I'm one of the few that's really liked this season. 601, 602, 603, 604, and 606 were great. 607's nothing special, and 605 and 608 were crap.

But 609? God, that was the best episode of the whole series.

Hero 02-19-2016 05:48 AM

Best episode yet 6.09. Looking forward to the introduction of Paul Monroe next weekend.

shuriken 02-20-2016 08:34 PM

I stopped watching after Beth dies in what season 5. So stupid. But everyone is saying this season is one of the best so I might have to check it out.

MsMarvelDuckie 02-20-2016 10:07 PM

Why was it stupid? Aside from the fact that she basically caused her own death when she tried to kill that be-otch cop in the hospital. But honestly, the chick had it coming after everything she did. Or looked the other way on, in some cases. But Beth should have known not to tangle directly with a trained combatant (aka cop). Or maybe just, y'know, had better aim with the scalpel.

shuriken 02-21-2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1552122)
Why was it stupid? Aside from the fact that she basically caused her own death when she tried to kill that be-otch cop in the hospital. But honestly, the chick had it coming after everything she did. Or looked the other way on, in some cases. But Beth should have known not to tangle directly with a trained combatant (aka cop). Or maybe just, y'know, had better aim with the scalpel.

You pretty much summed it up. The cop had a gun, they were going to make the trade scotch free, you could've waited ect. There was so much wrong with the way that she died, it was needless and stupid. Just as I was beginning to like Beth she goes and gets herself killed. I mean, get a gun or something not some tiny ass scissors.
This is a case of grit your teeth and walk away.

Hero 04-02-2016 02:00 PM

Big season finale this weekend. Anyone else tuning in?

ToTheNines 04-02-2016 02:17 PM

Yes, very excited. I initially thought they were rushing into the whole Negan thing, and I was even kinda annoyed that they were even bothering to adapt the character considering his particular brand of swearing, but now that it's upon us... Gotta admit I'm really into it.

Although I feel like Carol is toast and that's going to put a real bad taste in my mouth. Despite her random and not so plausible crisis, she's still my favorite character. And when they show catches up to the comic she would be a great foil to the current Big Bad. So if she dies it'll be a complete waste.

MsMarvelDuckie 04-02-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1552138)
You pretty much summed it up. The cop had a gun, they were going to make the trade scotch free, you could've waited ect. There was so much wrong with the way that she died, it was needless and stupid. Just as I was beginning to like Beth she goes and gets herself killed. I mean, get a gun or something not some tiny ass scissors.
This is a case of grit your teeth and walk away.


I think she just couldn't stand by and walk away knowing what she did. She knew that the lady needed to be taken down and that none of her own people were going to do it. She acted on gut feelings and her own sense of justice, but it went sour. So yeah, in that sense it was stupid of her to try that the way she did, but she knew it was her best chance to stop what was happening there. It just went very sour, and in that respect, it was a tragic loss. Beth just wasn't good enough to do it without getting herself killed. Truthfully, I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did with being as unskilled as she was.

Andrew NDB 04-02-2016 02:32 PM

Can't wait to see Daryl die this Sunday.

MsMarvelDuckie 04-02-2016 02:36 PM

Oh, gawds, I HOPE not! He's one of the best characters on the show, and one of the three biggest draws for fans (Besides Rick and Glenn). I'd HOPE they wouldn't be stupid enough to kill him off. I've especially liked his interactions with Carol, and he's had some of the best character arcs in the show.

ToTheNines 04-02-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1564867)
Can't wait to see Daryl die this Sunday.

I always felt like he'd have the biggest impact, dying by Lucille's hand. Rick, Carl and Michonne have plot armor, Glenn died the exact same way in the comics, so Daryl's the only logical choice right?

It wouldn't have the same impact, but it could be cool to see Morgan take the bat too though...

Morgan: Because all life is precious.

Negan: No it's not. *thwack*

NinjaPug 04-02-2016 02:41 PM

I think either Abraham or Glenn meet Lucille in the finale. No way they'd have Carol in that role. The backlash would be insane.

ToTheNines 04-02-2016 02:46 PM

Abraham would be kind of weird, since Denise just stole his death two weeks ago. But it could happen.

Andrew NDB 04-02-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1564871)
I think either Abraham or Glenn meet Lucille in the finale.

Can rule out Glenn because there's already been 3 fakeouts this season. That'd be pretty lame if they just killed him after that. And nobody cares about Abraham.

It'll be Daryl. His arc has been over for many seasons now... his only good contribution at this point would be his death.

Here's how it'll happen, roughly (I'm betting): everyone will be laid out like in the comics, Negan will eenie, meeny, miny moe it... and choose GLENN. Cue the audience going, "Whoa, just like in the comics!" But then Daryl steps forward, feels bad because Glenn is a father to be, roars at Negan that he should pick him instead, that he's the guy that bazookaed his men in their first encounter. Negan agrees... and Daryl gets batted to death.

Hero 04-02-2016 06:10 PM

Carl is definitely off limits. There are stories from the comics yet to be adapted/hodge-podged that involve he and Negan after the major Lucille death.

Definitely Daryl or Glenn. I don't think AMC will go ahead with the mystery death that many fan groups have speculated on. Something like that can not be sustained for the next 7 months.

NinjaPug 04-02-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1564893)
Can rule out Glenn because there's already been 3 fakeouts this season. That'd be pretty lame if they just killed him after that. And nobody cares about Abraham.

It'll be Daryl. His arc has been over for many seasons now... his only good contribution at this point would be his death.

Here's how it'll happen, roughly (I'm betting): everyone will be laid out like in the comics, Negan will eenie, meeny, miny moe it... and choose GLENN. Cue the audience going, "Whoa, just like in the comics!" But then Daryl steps forward, feels bad because Glenn is a father to be, roars at Negan that he should pick him instead, that he's the guy that bazookaed his men in their first encounter. Negan agrees... and Daryl gets batted to death.

I get your point on Glenn but they just did the Daryl death fakeout at the end of the last episode. I hope it is Daryl though. I've always hated him.

AMC better not do that rumored first person camera shot to end the season with the audience not knowing who got Lucille'd.

Andrew NDB 04-03-2016 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1564945)
I get your point on Glenn but they just did the Daryl death fakeout at the end of the last episode. I hope it is Daryl though. I've always hated him.

I can't say I've hated him... but I'm puzzled at why so many people love him. He's one, maybe two dimensional. And has had literally no arc for so long. His first thing was, "Can I be my own man apart from my brother?" Which was flimsy. But ultimately resolved, and then his brother died so it became a non-issue. Then it was, kind of, "Can I adapt to work with others?" He did. Many seasons ago. That's done. They played with him flirting with Carol and it went nowhere, and then Beth, who died... and that's it. There's been no growth or arc since.

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AMC better not do that rumored first person camera shot to end the season with the audience not knowing who got Lucille'd.
I was very, very worried about that until recent stuff popped up that does pretty clearly paint a picture that a pivotal character will be dying on the season ender.

While Daryl is definitely my pick... with the words "groundbreaking" and such being thrown around by the cast and crew about it... I'm actually starting to wonder if Rick himself is going to get killed.

Which on the surface would be weird... but if the rest of the show becomes about, like, Morgan coming around and taking his place, learning to get his hands dirty, etc.... that could be compelling television.

myconius 04-03-2016 12:57 AM

imagine if they have Negan kill Carol?

i mean why not? she's LONG overdue!!!

Hero 04-03-2016 05:18 AM

Carol (and Morgan) are obviously not in the last scene. ;).

myconius 04-03-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero (Post 1565053)
Carol (and Morgan) are obviously not in the last scene. ;).

maybe so .... but i guy can dream can't he??? :D

NinjaPug 04-03-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by myconius (Post 1565018)
imagine if they have Negan kill Carol?

i mean why not? she's LONG overdue!!!

You really think AMC is going to have a man beat a woman to death with a bat?

myconius 04-03-2016 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1565090)
You really think AMC is going to have a man beat a woman to death with a bat?

why discriminate among the sexes? :lol:

no, i don't believe they ever would. i just thought the idea was pretty funny!

especially with how overly PC i truly think that show has become!

personally i'd rather see the shows writers get beaten with bats! :D

Hero 04-03-2016 01:31 PM

Though Daryl is likely, I reckon it will more likely be Glenn. IMO Daryl dying by Lucille won't make as much of an impact as it would Glenn, nor be as heartbreaking.

Since Daryl wasn't in the original comic, the biggest kill ever from that source material wouldn't be as effective. Still, I don't fancy Mr Dixon's chances of survival at all. Maybe they as Rick's top 2 wingmen they will both end up gone.

This iconic scene from the comics certainly won't involve a more minor player.

Foombamaroom 04-03-2016 02:05 PM

It's a cliffhanger. Sorry to break it to you guys, but they're going to have a POV shot of the victim, and then have Negan kill that person, and not reveal who it is until Season 7, Episode 1.

Bry 04-03-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1565012)
I can't say I've hated him... but I'm puzzled at why so many people love him. He's one, maybe two dimensional. And has had literally no arc for so long. His first thing was, "Can I be my own man apart from my brother?" Which was flimsy. But ultimately resolved, and then his brother died so it became a non-issue. Then it was, kind of, "Can I adapt to work with others?" He did. Many seasons ago. That's done. They played with him flirting with Carol and it went nowhere, and then Beth, who died... and that's it. There's been no growth or arc since.

A lot of the appeal is how attractive a lot of women find him, I think. :lol: Nothing wrong with that at all, most shows have a character like that, but I've always found him pretty thin as character otherwise. He's the "cool, quiet badass" and that's about it -- you're right, character-arc-wise he ran his course a long time ago. Though it can be entertaining watching him interact with people (Denise most recently, and the borderline "Dukes of Hazzard"-y episode with Rick not long ago) he's not really that compelling on his own.

As for the Negan/Lucille thing... I'm fully expecting them to do the comic verbatim, but hoping they don't. Considering the amount of incredibly aggressive teasing they've done with Glenn this season, I feel like it's gonna be super clunky if they don't throw a swerve in there. Then again, this show's not exactly a stranger to some clunky writing. :P

Hero 04-03-2016 03:35 PM

Cliffhanger maybe, but a mystery death is no way workable. The producers won't be able to keep that under wraps for the next 7 months let alone have some material to make a season 7 trailer from.

myconius 04-03-2016 04:17 PM

if this series is good at one thing, it's setting up a person or destination that the group needs to get to and then leave it at a cliffhanger.

they did that with the prison, they did it with terminus, finding beth, and now they've dragged out getting to Negan till the final episode of the season.

with so many dragged out wasted episodes in-between.

myconius 04-03-2016 09:37 PM

an hour and a half for that?

what a complete waste!!!!

Bry 04-03-2016 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius (Post 1565380)
what a complete waste!!!!

Ah, so you have watched The Walking Dead. :P

myconius 04-03-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1565382)
Ah, so you have watched The Walking Dead. :P

hahahaha! yeah, unfortunately! :lol:

ToTheNines 04-03-2016 10:42 PM

It was a great episode, so very tense and dire.

But with the ending... Walking Dead has officially become a joke.

1980 called. Dallas wants their cliffhanger back.

1995 called. The Simpsons are ****ing laughing at you.

myconius 04-03-2016 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1565390)
It was a great episode, so very tense and dire.

But with the ending... Walking Dead has officially become a joke.

1980 called. Dallas wants their cliffhanger back.

1995 called. The Simpsons are ****ing laughing at you.

i was actually gonna say it's like 'As the World Turns'?

but yeah, that end was a bad joke!!
and sadly i KNEW they were gonna pull some crud like that!!!

NinjaPug 04-03-2016 11:07 PM

Such a terrible decision to end it like that. That scene doesn't need a cliffhanger to be talked about during the summer. It's just another stupid stunt from the writers. It's not like the victim's identity won't be revealed this summer long before the episode airs anyway. Listening to Gimple and a Kirkman try to justify the decision is infuriating.

ToTheNines 04-03-2016 11:11 PM

Right? Kirkman was all "the comics always end on a cliffhanger"... that's monthly bro. And the issue you were attempting to adapt did not end on such a weak, amateurish note.

Obviously my viewership is a drop in the bucket, but I'm probably not going to watch season 7, just on principle.

That said, I'm convinced it was Abraham. For multiple reasons.

Foombamaroom 04-04-2016 12:30 AM

It's Glenn.

The audio leaked a few days ago, but they removed the screams of the group. You could hear Maggie and Abraham screaming, "GLENN!", and if you slow the audio down here, you can hear it, too.

But **** Gimple. I'm never watching another episode of this show live ever again.


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