What is the ONE aspect you would like to change in the Nick series?
 

If I had a choice, I would lower the amount of mutations that occur in the show.

Lately, I feel that there are too many mutants. Decreasing the amount of mutants/mutations on the show would reap positive results.

- There would be more screen time dedicated to character development and world building, since the show would focus on not having an excess amount of mutations/mutants.

- The turtles/Splinter would be more "unique". Since there would only be a certain amount of mutants/mutations, the turtles/Splinter would be able to stand out more.

- They show would be able to introduce a variety of characters that aren't mutants. ( For example, characters that are humans, ghosts, demons, etc.)

That is the one aspect I would like to change. Discuss your thoughts below.

Realizing I'm not the target demographic for this show, the only thing I'd like to see is Donnie's creeping tendencies put an end to.

And maybe they are by this point, I'm more than a few episodes behind, but that's the most irksome thing about the show for me.

As you mentioned, there are too many mutations. I'd like it to change as well.

One other thing is that they should wrap up some old plots that are quickly becoming forgotten, like Timothy Plot, Karai plot, Newtralizer plot. For the love of God, he hasn't showed up in the Salamandrians episode. Hopefully he does later, because he's got some unfinished business with Slash.

Last thing is that Xever, and Bradford need more screen time.

I'd do something about all those mutations as well, but what I'd really like to see is them bringing back that entertaining bickering among the Turtles you'd hear in Season 1. Those were always fun scenes.

If there's only only thing I can choose I might need to think about it. Right now I'd say they probably should have been more careful about how they treated the storyline, it comes across as rather fillery (is that even a word?) and like it discards/alters developtments too much.

I'd bring back the season 1 writers, they were way better.

The fact that they wont show us Don and Leo's rooms (they almost did in the Animated Adventures comics)

This. I'd erase everything post season one and keep those writers.

Honestly, several things:

Even though season 2 I prefer over 1 due to the season sticking out more in my mind, I do agree the main issue is the lack of a coherent narrative. Season 1 triumphs quite a bit with that; however, my issue was the story felt rather slow in season 1 with business only picking up right at Never Say Xever. Episodes such as Old Friend, New Enemy and It Came From the Depths were good, but somewhat rushed a little bit. Season 2 may have the pacing I personally prefer, but what good is it without a good narrative? As a result, several plots have died out whether due to change in writers or the lack of time for voice actors; such examples are Trejo, Craig Smith, and Combs.

Despite my disdain for the majority of relationships and partially the mutations, the writing is what honestly needs to be fixed. There's shining examples of brilliance after season 1; Wrath of Tiger Claw, The Invasion, Serpent Hunt, personally Casey Jones vs the Underworld are really good. The issue is their placement in their respective seasons barring Invasion; that's ultimately what is killing the show. The writing went from having strong connections between interactions and overall plots turning more into a toy marketing show again for the Turtles. I'm not asking for everything to extend into an arc, but at the very least go for stronger writing.

Fix up the writing and (personally) the love affairs and tonal shifts then the show has potential to get back on track. Also, didn't you make a thread like this before, or someone did to this extent?

The show is fine the way it is, but I'd prefer more human enemies than mutants all the time.

If we can keep the new character designs along the way, then I'm game.

I'd add more ass-shots.

The characters designs are the one thing that the show is improving.

Probably this.

If not, I'd have preferred it if "Karai" had been named Pimiko, or just been Miwa, or any other random Japanese name. Making her Karai in name only bars them from utilizing a more Mirage-esque Karai, which is a shame considering the crew is comprised of plenty of Mirage fans and that's the best version of the character.

Then again it might be for the best. It might be tough for a kids show to adapt City at War without butchering it.

Put season 2 out on a complete dvd set so you don't have to buy the separate discs... like they did eventually on season 1.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B011MU...CHXK2V47DQ2RAP

This requires double dipping on season 1, but there ya go.

I'd have them keep the Vision Quest gear permanently.

That's an odd thing to care about.

I would stop giving old names to new characters. It prevents the old characters from actually showing up. So many examples such as neutrinos being nothing like the Dimension X race.

Less Kraang. As in not making everything involve the Kraang.

April O'neil? Was half-Kraang all along.

April's "mother"? Kraang experiment all along.

Irma? Kraang all along.

Human evolution? Kraang all along.

Every conspiracy ever? Kraang all along.

You see where I'm getting at this? Pretty much almost everything that happened? The Kraang was most likely behind it.

How much you wanna bet Kraang Subprime says this some where down the line, or Prime:

I'd like to see EITHER:

Lots more character development

Closure of old plot holes such as Karai, Mutagen Man, mutations

Have the one-shot characters start a city at war of sorts (TMNT and mutanimals vs kraang vs foot vs other mutants)

Stop the "half season focused on large plots, mid season finale begin main season plot until season finale" formula

Nothing really comes to mind for me so I'll go with this.

That's also something I would've preferred in retrospect. Have Pimiko/Miwa and Karai as separate characters and keep the 'Pimiko/Miwa being Splinter's daughter but raised by Shredder' angle whereas Karai could be more like her Mirage incarnation by having her around Shredder's age, not be related to Shredder in any way, head of the Japanese branch of the Foot clan when Saki moves to New York upon learning Yoshi is alive, and for her to plan on overthrowing Saki because she's fed up with his dishonorable leadership and wasting of resources for his petty revenge. Perhaps you could work it in a way that's similar to City of War, like say whenever they actually defeat Shredder for good, city goes to hell, and Karai sees this as her opportunity to obtain dominance, they team up, they succeed, Karai claims the Foot won't go after them, but still underlie she might go back on her word one day if it suits her.

But nah, let's just name her Karai anyway since we have a evil lady ninja Leo has the hots for and that kinda-sorta happened in 2k3 amirte. Who would want a competent, non-mutant female villain who, underneath her supposed good ethics and honorable demeanor, isn't above being a manipulative, scheming opportunist to achieve her goals? Who WOULD want that? ;P

Yeah, truly a bummer.

Uhh... dunno what you're on about, but if they wanna use someone like Mirage Karai there's literally nothing stopping them. All they have to do is call her something different... Lotus Blossom or Muchiko or Tatsumakisenpuukyaku or pretty much anything.

I feel like you're putting too much importance on names. What's in a name? A character by any other name would serve the same purpose.

That's dumb.

This.
Also less Mutants and more human characters. I was saddened by Irma being a Gilbert Gotfried voiced Kraang

Um, they're all underage man...

^^ But they are cartoons so it makes it less creepy. Or more creepy. I dunno anymore :ohwell:

So's he. Or well, they're not in his country. Either way, he's one of the few around here who can get away with that. :tlol:

While I'll admit there are a couple aspects that don't entirely sit right with me, I gotta say I like it the way it is. I would like to see them tone down Raphael's moodiness though. I can only take so much of his whiny "I hate everything!" act. I am happy with how they've been treating Michelangelo this current season. He's definitely grown a lot over the last year or so, especially during the farmhouse arc.

I can't think of anything I would change currently.

Extend the length of every episode by 10mins and encourage more links between episodes for developing character interactions, background detail, secondary plot arcs, etc.

Basically give the writers more room to breath and not have to rush (or cram in) the ideas they have in each episode.

Overall: Let's have less new mutants and better characterization of the ones we do have.

For a part of the story: I'd have the Kraang's boast of having created humanity shown to be a lie. The Kraang might have done many things, but once KP bragged about that, I got the feeling that the writing was in the process of jumping the shark. If it takes you millions of years to create one species just to invade a place, and yet you can't simply cook up a genome from scratch in a merest fraction of the time with all of that ultra-advanced technology of yours, then God help you as invaders. :trolleye:

i'd like it very much if they'd do away with Apritello!

it was funny at first but now it's overstayed it's welcome.

They haven't really done much of that in the current season, save for that initial scene in the season premiere where Don and April were hanging out on that alien planet together and looking at those crystals.

You mean the thing that hasn't had a lot of focus outside of season 1 (mostly) and some of 2, unless it was actually plot related? I kinda don't have a problem with it since it's not as "in your face" like in season 1. It popping up every once in a while is cool with me, just as long as it's maybe a scene or something, like the season 4 premiere. Not much there and I don't mind it that way.

yeah, this scene wasn't creepy at all

http://36.media.tumblr.com/89a37fc39...ut2ko1_500.jpg

(finds a bucket to puke in)

(then proceeds to puke in said bucket)

Nice ass-shot.
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