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cookie jar 03-18-2016 12:18 PM

TMNT #56 Preview and Discussion
 
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articl...6/1100-155148/

Utrommaniac 03-18-2016 12:28 PM

I just finished looking through it.

From the Rat King's five second visit with Kitsune, we might have an idea of what's next next storyline. Maybe the "Rats. Rats everywhere" piece of TMNT lore.

CyberCubed 03-18-2016 12:37 PM

We've been waiting so long for Leatherhead to debut, over 56 issues! Especially with the teases of him in Turtles in Time #3, and in #49-50.

Its about time.

2K3 03-18-2016 01:33 PM

Spoiler:
I'm guessing the two figures by the fire are Traag and Granitor

Nice to see Metalhead is being reconstructed; hopefully we'll get to see this mechanized turtle soon!

I'm curious about Harold's former "Partner"; wondering who "she" is (Null maybe?)

Gotta love the Rat King; and it's high time we saw him and Kitsune together.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-18-2016 01:52 PM

Sounds like Splinter knows something is up regarding someone's mortal remains!

RAT KING!!!!

MikeandRaph87 03-18-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1559530)
Sounds like Splinter knows something is up regarding someone's mortal remains!

RAT KING!!!!

Rat King has interest in Shredder? I do qu3stion why Splinter would charge the defector with protecting Shredder's resting place. Its like hevis asking for a ritual to revive Shredder.:trazz:

neatoman 03-18-2016 02:34 PM

Who knows, maybe Rat King just thinks Shredder's bones would be nice to chew on?

Utrommaniac 03-18-2016 02:43 PM

It would depend on if the Rat King is involved with Shredder at all. Bringing him back might be Kitsune's ambition (how that involves Alopex is to be determined), and Splinter is suspicious. Hence finding a guard for his tomb.

CyberCubed 03-18-2016 04:39 PM

Am I the only one who thinks too many things are going on at once? You have the whole Kitsune/Rat King and Pantheon story going with them controlling Alopex, you have this current arc with Leatherhead and the Utroms, you have Bishop and Darkwater monitoring Burnow Island, you have the Street Phantoms and Darius Dunn as well as the professor and his partner's connection to them, plus now Splinter and the blonde Foot Soldier.

And this is on top of the other stuff on the side like the Mutanimals and Hob, whereever Karai went, and Null, etc.

It almost seems like too much is going on and there's not enough screentime or breathing room for everything.

ChosenOne 03-18-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1559583)
Am I the only one who thinks too many things are going on at once? You have the whole Kitsune/Rat King and Pantheon story going with them controlling Alopex, you have this current arc with Leatherhead and the Utroms, you have Bishop and Darkwater monitoring Burnow Island, you have the Street Phantoms and Darius Dunn as well as the professor and his partner's connection to them, plus now Splinter and the blonde Foot Soldier.

And this is on top of the other stuff on the side like the Mutanimals and Hob, whereever Karai went, and Null, etc.

It almost seems like too much is going on and there's not enough screentime or breathing room for everything.

I expect many of those plot threads will come together eventually.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-18-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1559583)
Am I the only one who thinks too many things are going on at once? You have the whole Kitsune/Rat King and Pantheon story going with them controlling Alopex, you have this current arc with Leatherhead and the Utroms, you have Bishop and Darkwater monitoring Burnow Island, you have the Street Phantoms and Darius Dunn as well as the professor and his partner's connection to them, plus now Splinter and the blonde Foot Soldier.

And this is on top of the other stuff on the side like the Mutanimals and Hob, whereever Karai went, and Null, etc.

It almost seems like too much is going on and there's not enough screentime or breathing room for everything.

Calm down, you. IDW has juggled many balls before.

TomWaltz 03-18-2016 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1559583)
Am I the only one who thinks too many things are going on at once? You have the whole Kitsune/Rat King and Pantheon story going with them controlling Alopex, you have this current arc with Leatherhead and the Utroms, you have Bishop and Darkwater monitoring Burnow Island, you have the Street Phantoms and Darius Dunn as well as the professor and his partner's connection to them, plus now Splinter and the blonde Foot Soldier.

And this is on top of the other stuff on the side like the Mutanimals and Hob, whereever Karai went, and Null, etc.

It almost seems like too much is going on and there's not enough screentime or breathing room for everything.

http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-...urtles-262.jpg

:twink:

Talk soon...

Tom W.

Technogeek29 03-21-2016 04:25 AM

Still kinda makes my skin crawl to see Rat King. While Saki might be gone it's heavily implied his spirit will be reborn someday, wonder when that will pop up?

Ninjinister 03-21-2016 06:36 PM

One of the best things about this series is how many stories they can have going at one time without sacrificing quality.

Joey Kamikaze 03-21-2016 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1559583)
Am I the only one who thinks too many things are going on at once? ... It almost seems like too much is going on and there's not enough screentime or breathing room for everything.

Nah. It's how this book has always worked. The first year is all one big story that comes together in #12. #13-21 and the related minis are all either world-building for the long term story or build-up to City Fall. Then everything after City Fall is again either long-term world building (like the formation of the Mutanimals) or build up to Attack on Technodrome and #50.

So now post-#50 some of what's going is slow-burn stuff, like the Pantheon storyline, which will presumably be this volume's long-term megastory; some of it is continuing fallout from what's come (the Leatherhead arc will presumably deal with fallout from Attack on Technodrome); the other random new bits will probably come together in a big story soon, especially if Null is Harold's ex-partner and supplied the Phantoms' cloaking tech, which feels like where they're going with this.

And to be honest, I feel like the book's finally at a point where they can **** around a little, tell some fun two- or three-part stories and have some of those random, weird adventures the turtles are known for. The recent Mikey and the Mutanimals two-parter was a good example of what this book can do now that the status quo is where it is at the moment. It doesn't have to be plot twists and melodrama all the time, fun as that's been the past year.

swing_kinker 03-22-2016 05:37 PM

Just finished it. Good stuff and that Mateus cover is sublime. I've enjoyed the stand in artists but this really is a book at its best when he and Ronda are delivering. Brilliant stuff, we get an origin story too

ProphetofGanja 03-22-2016 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swing_kinker (Post 1560770)
Just finished it. Good stuff and that Mateus cover is sublime. I've enjoyed the stand in artists but this really is a book at its best when he and Ronda are delivering. Brilliant stuff, we get an origin story too

Man, I can't wait til tomorrow

ChosenOne 03-22-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swing_kinker (Post 1560770)
Just finished it. Good stuff and that Mateus cover is sublime. I've enjoyed the stand in artists but this really is a book at its best when he and Ronda are delivering. Brilliant stuff, we get an origin story too

Oh, you and your sadistic teasing of us poor souls who don't get advance copies. One of these days, Alice, one of these days... :lol:

Utrommaniac 03-22-2016 11:09 PM

Well...I'm full of sugar from a milkshake coming back to Waco from Ft. Worth. I'll probably see if it's up at midnight and read it immediately.

Technogeek29 03-22-2016 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1560925)
Well...I'm full of sugar from a milkshake coming back to Waco from Ft. Worth. I'll probably see if it's up at midnight and read it immediately.

Waco to Ft Worth? Jesus that's almost a 3 hour drive 5 hours for me although Waco is considerably closer.

Utrommaniac 03-23-2016 12:01 AM

Yep! And my dad does the trip every weekend. He teaches in Waco (and I am a student at the same school), but he goes up to my mom on the weekend. I had to be there today for a memorial service, though.

It can be an hour and a half drive if traffic is really good, but 2 or longer if it's bad. What's more is that it's on I-35, which is still a nightmare.

I also checked to see what time they release, and it's about 10 am every day for new releases. So still more waiting.

neatoman 03-23-2016 07:14 AM

Spoiler:
Ch'Rell


Is it weird that I was expecting that?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-23-2016 09:54 AM

Well, a couple of unexpected things:

Spoiler:
1. Ch'rell! Did NOT see that coming.
2. Leatherhead claims he was awake the entire time and only first set foot in the Technodrome once Burnow Island was terraformed.


So... curious to see where this goes. I mean, we know who really killed the Utroms... but is Leatherhead being 100% truthful? And where will he end up in New York City?

Utrommaniac 03-23-2016 10:16 AM

Spoiler:
I had to go back and look for Ch`rell when you guys brought it up. Seems like he might still be a little troublemaker.

And here he is!
https://40.media.tumblr.com/6dcf08a5...rw8miz_540.png
https://36.media.tumblr.com/cfdeec8e...rw8miz_540.png
He's huge and still has the scar!

But Ma`riell is there! There seems to be confirmation that there are male and female Utroms, rather than lumped into a single ambiguous gender. And it answers my long-time question of "do they have beds? What do they look like?

As for my "Guess the Killer", I say Traag and Granitor. Leatherhead doesn't seem so bad, and would probably just be throwing tantrums later.
I imagined the Turtles and Leatherhead in a "Clue" like parlor trying to determine what happened. "*Zoidberg voice* Somebody here...is a big murderer!"

swing_kinker 03-23-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1560835)
Oh, you and your sadistic teasing of us poor souls who don't get advance copies. One of these days, Alice, one of these days... :lol:

Straight to da moon! Ha I assure its not braggadocios its purely a heads up to let you know if it's worth seeking out

swing_kinker 03-23-2016 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1561038)
Spoiler:
I had to go back and look for Ch`rell when you guys brought it up. Seems like he might still be a little troublemaker.

And here he is!
https://40.media.tumblr.com/6dcf08a5...rw8miz_540.png
https://36.media.tumblr.com/cfdeec8e...rw8miz_540.png
He's huge and still has the scar!

But Ma`riell is there! There seems to be confirmation that there are male and female Utroms, rather than lumped into a single ambiguous gender. And it answers my long-time question of "do they have beds? What do they look like?

As for my "Guess the Killer", I say Traag and Granitor. Leatherhead doesn't seem so bad, and would probably just be throwing tantrums later.
I imagined the Turtles and Leatherhead in a "Clue" like parlor trying to determine what happened. "*Zoidberg voice* Somebody here...is a big murderer!"

Ahhh I didn't see too much of the 03 series so never got the reference. Good stuff

ChosenOne 03-23-2016 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swing_kinker (Post 1561047)
Straight to da moon! Ha I assure its not braggadocios its purely a heads up to let you know if it's worth seeking out

Oh, I'm well aware of that, I was just teasing you myself. :)

As for the issue itself...

Spoiler:
Do Tragg or Granitor really have the sheer strength to do a number like that on poor Fugitoid, and so quickly, too? He was literally blitzed. The rock soldiers we've seen in action don't appear to be that strong or that fast. Hmm... I wonder if the "*koff*" wasn't misdirection. I mean, if it was Tragg or Granitor, I would assume they were retrieving Ch'rell from the room, but then why slaughter the rest of the Utroms? Could those two and Leatherhead be in cahoots?


The plot thickens.

Utrommaniac 03-23-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1561065)
Oh, I'm well aware of that, I was just teasing you myself. :)

As for the issue itself...

Spoiler:
Do Tragg or Granitor really have the sheer strength to do a number like that on poor Fugitoid, and so quickly, too? He was literally blitzed. The rock soldiers we've seen in action don't appear to be that strong or that fast. Hmm... I wonder if the "*koff*" wasn't misdirection. I mean, if it was Tragg or Granitor, I would assume they were retrieving Ch'rell from the room, but then why slaughter the rest of the Utroms? Could those two and Leatherhead be in cahoots?


The plot thickens.

Spoiler:
It doesn't seem like they were after Ch'rell. For whatever reason, they just saw it necessary to kill some random Utroms.

I'd say it was them because Fugitioid recognized one of them. Plus, they would know how to get into the rooms.

ChosenOne 03-23-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1561067)
Spoiler:
It doesn't seem like they were after Ch'rell. For whatever reason, they just saw it necessary to kill some random Utroms.

I'd say it was them because Fugitioid recognized one of them. Plus, they would know how to get into the rooms.

Spoiler:
Ch'rell was mentioned to be one of Krang's deadliest warriors. If Tragg and Granitor are still loyal to their general, they could be interested in reviving Ch'rell and enlisting his help in getting Krang back from Neutrino custody. Killing Utroms wouldn't do them any favors right now.

What seems more likely for this arc, that the villains are two henchmen who the Turtles can beat relatively easy, or a mutant heavy hitter they've never met before and aren't sure if they can trust?

Apart from the apparent lack of a tail, the shadow of the figure leaving the room even looks like Leatherhead, down to the tiny little hands and the creases in the fabric of the pants. It's possible Fugitoid went "You." because he'd just found a bunch of Utroms looking like they'd been slaughtered by a wild animal and was surprised to find Leatherhead, whom he vouched for, behind the whole thing.

It's also just as likely that I'm grasping at straws, but it's a valid way to pass the time until we know for sure.

Oh, and if Leatherhead turns out to be an antagonist, I expect this arc ends with him being captured by the EPF.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-23-2016 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1561070)
Spoiler:
Ch'rell was mentioned to be one of Krang's deadliest warriors. Ir Tragg and Granitor are still loyal to their general, they could be interested in reviving Ch'rell and enlisting his help in getting Krang back from Neutrino custody. Killing Utroms wouldn't do them any favors right now.

What seems more likely for this arc, that the villains are two henchmen who the Turtles can beat relatively easy, or a mutant heavy hitter they've never met before and are sure if they can trust?

Apart from the apparent lack of a tail, the shadow of the figure leaving the room even looks like Leatherhead, down to the tiny little hands and the creases in the fabric of the pants. It's possible Fugitoid went "You." because he'd just found a bunch of Utroms looking like they'd been slaughtered by a wild animal and was surprised to find Leatherhead, whom he vouched for, behind the whole thing.

It's also just as likely that I'm grasping at straws, but it's a valid way to pass the time until we know for sure.

Oh, and if Leatherhead turns out to be an antagonist, I expect this arc ends with him being captured by the EPF.

I personally think that
Spoiler:

The Turtles will think Leatherhead massacred the Utroms, but Tragg and Granitor did. They attack him... although, no.

Next issue's cover has Leo and Raph with LH searching Burnow Island, for what we can presume are Tragg and Granitor. But then Issue #58's cover has the Turtles fighting LH while the Utroms cower in fear.

So yeah, I think you're right. So why is LH slaughtering Ooties?

Also, I'd rather have Glurin and Xeinos namedropped than who we saw, but I'm still excited. Just please, leave room for Glurin and Xeinos in the surviving Utroms' ranks!

Technogeek29 03-23-2016 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1561074)
I personally think that
Spoiler:

The Turtles will think Leatherhead massacred the Utroms, but Tragg and Granitor did. They attack him... although, no.

Next issue's cover has Leo and Raph with LH searching Burnow Island, for what we can presume are Tragg and Granitor. But then Issue #58's cover has the Turtles fighting LH while the Utroms cower in fear.

So yeah, I think you're right. So why is LH slaughtering Ooties?

Also, I'd rather have Glurin and Xeinos namedropped than who we saw, but I'm still excited. Just please, leave room for Glurin and Xeinos in the surviving Utroms' ranks!

Spoiler:
Pretty sound it seems, LH could have done more than hiding? you don't live that long by running away, I feel for the Utroms there is noway Bishop will let them live in peace.

ChosenOne 03-23-2016 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technogeek29 (Post 1561079)
Spoiler:
Pretty sound it seems, LH could have done more than hiding? you don't live that long by running away, I feel for the Utroms there is noway Bishop will let them live in peace.

Spoiler:
Funny thing about LH: he doesn't have those big gnarly scars on his chest and shoulder when he first emerges from the swamp, nor while he's in hiding. Hmm... We're definitely not getting the whole story here.

Utrommaniac 03-23-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1561070)
Spoiler:
Ch'rell was mentioned to be one of Krang's deadliest warriors. If Tragg and Granitor are still loyal to their general, they could be interested in reviving Ch'rell and enlisting his help in getting Krang back from Neutrino custody. Killing Utroms wouldn't do them any favors right now.

What seems more likely for this arc, that the villains are two henchmen who the Turtles can beat relatively easy, or a mutant heavy hitter they've never met before and aren't sure if they can trust?

Apart from the apparent lack of a tail, the shadow of the figure leaving the room even looks like Leatherhead, down to the tiny little hands and the creases in the fabric of the pants. It's possible Fugitoid went "You." because he'd just found a bunch of Utroms looking like they'd been slaughtered by a wild animal and was surprised to find Leatherhead, whom he vouched for, behind the whole thing.

It's also just as likely that I'm grasping at straws, but it's a valid way to pass the time until we know for sure.

Oh, and if Leatherhead turns out to be an antagonist, I expect this arc ends with him being captured by the EPF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1561074)
I personally think that
Spoiler:

The Turtles will think Leatherhead massacred the Utroms, but Tragg and Granitor did. They attack him... although, no.

Next issue's cover has Leo and Raph with LH searching Burnow Island, for what we can presume are Tragg and Granitor. But then Issue #58's cover has the Turtles fighting LH while the Utroms cower in fear.

So yeah, I think you're right. So why is LH slaughtering Ooties?

Also, I'd rather have Glurin and Xeinos namedropped than who we saw, but I'm still excited. Just please, leave room for Glurin and Xeinos in the surviving Utroms' ranks!

Spoiler:
Traag and Granitor were in the caves and seemed to make plans for attack while LH was introducing himself to the turtles. Even dropping the "it's kill or be killed" (a phrase that will forever be associated with a soulless flower for me :P )

As for the pants as a giveaway for LH, I would say not. They're too tightly wrapped around the legs, and LH pants is in tatters. Plus, those go all the way down the leg.

And yes. Glurin and Xeinos namedrop please. I'll even take Obligado!

ChosenOne 03-23-2016 12:47 PM

One of the Utroms has a distinctive look, like an elderly scholar of sorts, or at least what would pass as one in Utrominon. He even appears on the cover of #57. I imagine he'll be important, going forward.

Redeemer 03-23-2016 01:01 PM

Really amazing issue, my only complaint yet again is the art style...... The turtles look like 12 year old adolescents and very feminine, not 16 or 17 year old teenagers...... Hopefully the art reverts back to the earlier stylings.


Also....

Tom this might be a question you could shed some light on?
Spoiler:
Why would Granator and Traag kill the Utroms???? Also shouldn't they have the equipment or ability to survive the terraforming of the island considering they are Krangs cohorts. Are we sure that Koyo and Blugeon aren't still on the island??? I can't recall what happened to them or could it be other mutants trying to escape the island??

CyberCubed 03-23-2016 01:02 PM

Spoiler:
Its hard to tell, but is Ch'rell still red instead of pink like a usual Utrom? They'll want to make him look different than Krang I imagine, so anyone hope he's still red-colored?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-23-2016 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1561092)
Are we sure that Koyo and Blugeon aren't still on the island??? I can't recall what happened to them or could it be other mutants trying to escape the island??

Did you even read "Vengeance"? Remember the Gauntlet? Four mutants versus four mutants?

Anyway, I read the issue again and I'm still just as unsure. Leatherhead is definitely not telling the whole truth and is holding some cards close to his chest, still...

But honestly, it could be him or the other suspects. It could go either way...

CyberCubed 03-23-2016 01:08 PM

Since the island is now terrafromed it could be affecting Traag's/Granitors brains making them crazy or whatever, hence the "Koff."

Then again they lived in the Utrom homeworld with Krang didn't they?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-23-2016 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1561097)
Since the island is now terrafromed it could be affecting Traag's/Granitors brains making them crazy or whatever, hence the "Koff."

Then again they lived in the Utrom homeworld with Krang didn't they?

We never saw them on the homeworld; we only saw them on that planet Krang was marooned on, in Krang #1.

Now, Triceratons, at least... we've seen those on the Utrom homeworld.

AquaParade 03-23-2016 03:42 PM

I thought this was a really solid issue. Thanks to the whole team.


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