Apritello VS Capril
 

Which one do you like better? Donnie and April or Casey and April?

Based on how they've been presented in the show, I'll take Donnie & April every day of the week.

Apritello!

Beauty and the Beast combo! Heck yaas!

Any other version I'd have said Casey. but THIS Casey?! Uh, no. Gonna' go with Donnie here. Casey's a perv.

These shipping names trigger me. Is this what the young kids of today really use? These awful shipping names?

This thread needs to be locked.

You like 3 of them getting it on? Capritello is for you. :P

Or perhaps you prefer Leorai?

Let's see:

Donnie is the nicer of the two, and the way they've handled it, yeah, it seems more likely. April is usually mad at Casey, but the beginning of season two aside, she's never really mad at Donnie. However, I feel that there may be some backlash if it is ApriTello, because aside from Donnie being a giant turtle, it breaks tradition (which admittedly is another reason I would like to see the pairing happen. It's different).

Meanwhile... Casey's human? Help me out with pros here. I'll ship them in any other version, but here, there aren't many reason to. It's tradition and he's human. Like I said, it seemed like April is peeved with Casey most of the time (mostly in season two and here and there in season three), however, since they've been getting left behind, who knows. Maybe they've had time to bond. Otherwise, eh. He's not exactly the kindest or smartest. I mean, he started off kinda nice, and there were times where they sat down to talk, no jokes or anything (Target: April O'Neil and Buried secrets come to mind), but overtime the character has just gone downhill. But uhh, hey, tradition and the fact that he's human?

Final verdict: Neither. I'd still lean towards Donnie. But still, the last time they really seemed to try and work on that pairing was A Foot too big (?), which was over a year ago (plus, if they were intended to be together, that was kind of a missed opportunity.:tgrumble:). So, since it does kinda make it hard to totally say who she will/is more likely to end up with, neither.

The shippy shippy fangirl part of me totally says Apritello all the way though. Just sayin'.

Apritello has been toned down quite a bit, but there is still more going on with it in the background.

I get the impression that April truly has feelings for Donnie. But she is scared about revealing them.

After all there was a time when mixed race relationships were frowned upon...and likewise same-gendered relationships were viewed as something to be ashamed of. It was only recently that these two types of relationships have become more accepted then they they were years ago.

And while the Nick won't be as heavy handed as say history has...they will still make it clear that there will be a stigma about humans having relationships with mutants.

And I'm not saying in terms of bestial relationships because that arguments been done to death...though I can see someone on the show making a "If people can have relationships with mutants, next thing you know we'd be shipping with our pets." kind of comment. But they will make it clear in the show that human on mutant relationships are not to be encouraged.

So I can see April's feelings for Casey are more platonic and she just emotionally uses him as a beard so that it looks like she has a more "Acceptable" relationship. And of course force herself to believe that she is in the correct relationship.

Let's say there is an episode where Joan Grody learns the Turtles are in fact Mutant Turtles. She would naturally try to paint the Turtles as monsters because she wants ratings. And fear mongering is one of the ways to get attention and sway public opinion

The Nick Series has occasionally hinted April going into a career as an investigative journalist. So April could bring back that board she made in season one and use it to gauge the extent of Joans influence. As well as sway public opinion and debunk Joan's lies and assumptions about the Turtles.

From here there are three things that Joan could use to discredit April in no particular order.

1. The photo of Donnie pushing April on the swing.

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This may feel like a stretch but, this photos first and last appearance was in Mutagen Man Unleashed. The last time we see it was when MM goes to the surface to look for April. He has the photo and he's trying to get the people there to tell him where he can find April. And the last we see if it was when the frame is dropped on the ground and broken. As far as we know it had been left there for anybody to pick up.

A plausible scenario is that Joan Grody hears about a monster attack in the city. She goes to follow up on it and either finds the photo or someone gives it to her saying the creature (mutagen man) had left it behind. Everyone thinks Donnie is some kid in a turtle costume so they don't think much of the photo. However Joan has her suspicions and holds on to it.

So eventually should April be asked for an interview with Joan about why she feels the Turtles not "Child Eating" Monsters. Joan could reveal this image and force April to reveal her true relationship with the Turtles.


2. April is revealed as a mutant

In Kraang Conspiracy it was revealed the reason April has psychic powers is because she is half human/half Kraang mutant hybrid. Beyond that April has been very reluctant about admitting or accepting that she is a mutant. And the Turtles have been nice enough not to push the issue on that fact either. Casey it is doubtful he knows April is a mutant...he just assumes she's a psychic who is just discovering her latent
skills. And even when he asked her about her powers she just says 'I'm special' as a way of saying "I rather not go into it..."

If this plot point is revealed...I can see Joan leaping at it and saying "How can we trust you when as far as we know...you could be in league with the Kraang themselves?"


3. Dark April


This would be its own can of worms...

I used to prefer Apritello, but after some careful thought, I have a different opinion. So, bear with me...

I'm still holding out for April and Karai.

Donnie is one let-down and a trilby away from #NotAllMen, and carry had three braincells to rub together.

Neither, actually, as I'm indifferent to both, but if forced to choose, Donnie x April". Personally, I feel she'll end up with neither.

Based on how they've been presented in the show so far, my opinion is neither.

Well I guess Casey and April feels a lot more mutual, Donatello just sort of comes across as a creepy stalker.

Can you go a post with out bringing up your silly SJW agenda?

Apritello all the way, Casey is an idiot. I mean why date a guy that doesn't care that all of humanity is dead including his family.

Neither.

1) You're overanalysing this.
2) A lot of crushes are based on looks.

I dunno, there are people out there who have pretty crap families...

I know Nick isn't pulling anything from the IDW series (and certainly not the Dreamwave one) but your statement is valid.
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Random Aside, is Casey's dad abusive in the Mirage universe?
I mean...we meet his mom, and his cousin Sid, but is there any mention of his dad at all?

True, but the reason Casey, for this series, got into the vigilante thing was to protect his sister, father, and April.

Too bad we never really see either his father or sister to really care about them. Or when he seemingly doesn't care about them.

It's almost like the writers forgot he had a family. This is another thing on my list of things I wish they'd elaborate on.

They're in the same boat as April's aunt really.

At least she was mentioned, but seems when Kirby finally returned that they could've had her say, "My aunt went home" or something.

Really wish there was a third option called "I like them both" and a fourth one called "Neither". I've said it before and I'll say it again, the show can't do relationships well except Leo and Karai. That's the only dynamic I feel they nailed properly with Leo's desperation to restore Karai's sanity; though there's occasional flirting prior to mutation, it's subtle. The others are either irritating for me to sit through such as Michelangelo and Renet or could have worked, but are instead played up for laughs and annoying for Raphael and Mona Lisa. Another time for it, but I'll focus on April because honestly, it's been four seasons and I'm really tired of it.

Capril- Can you even call this a relationship in the Nickelodeon universe? I certainly don't; in most TMNT incarnations, we know Casey and April are set to be together. The only time I'm aware of that it isn't is the Fred Wolf cartoon; if there's another version with both in (not PD as of now), feel free to correct me as I still need to read the comics. The dynamic of the two, while repetitious is always fun to watch. Casey often the lovable, yet feisty everyman with a rougher past in comparison to April's background where she's been through tough times, though not as tragic as Arnold Jones' passing. With the Turtles, the overall theme is family; April serving as a sisterly figure to the group, a tender heart in hardships while Casey is the stepbrother, at times arguing with the group but willing to do what's right.

The dynamic of the family theme leads to a problem I have with Casey in this version: his arrogance and arguing is grating after it's done too often. I can excuse Mutagen Man Unleashed because it is his debut into the cartoon; after all, it takes time to adjust a reinterpretation. Problem is with Casey is his main trait season 2 wise is to be the foil to Apriltello mostly. Sure, it can be argued that as a sister to the Turtles, Donnie would struggle to let April go with another man. As Casey doesn't mature usually either, that's an issue, though teens (myself included) have a superiority complex at times.

I've yet to find a reason personally to say Casey should be with April besides being continuous in the TMNT mythos. Maybe as the show progresses and he matures, then maybe. However at this time, I can't say yes. As for Apriltello, that's an entirely different subject matter.

Apriltello- ....From what I've seen on the forums, this is one of the most difficult topics to discuss Nickwise due to some liking and shipping the two, some are indifferent, and some don't like it. Personally, numerous opportunities have been present to go all in with this, but majority of the time it's played up for comedy. I do like Donatello's character in this series and am a sucker for good ol Paulsen, but the crush, despite it's spacing out, is irritating. In a way, Donatello's shyness reminds me of Peter Parker; not in a vein of heroism, but a stereotypical nerd is shy and insecure, taking a while to come out of his shell. That's acceptable, but how Don behaves in specific episodes bugs me.

Not to say Donatello is bad by any means, but I get a bad vibe from the comedic opportunities present. Obviously, there's the chart from Monkey Brains which goes way too far as a crush and more of an obsession. Besides that elephant in the room, Beyond the Known Universe is another major example that hurts the potential of both shippings. Obviously, appearances are more favored, but it went rather overboard despite a gag at best. Then of course, the infamous A Foot Too Big; despite disdain, the episode is actually something I can praise, though see why people hate.

In most episodes surrounding Donnie's affection/obsession (take your pick), he does have a lot more sympathy for April whereas Casey doesn't get much of a chance unless off camera. The Kirby demutation arc of season 2 being the prime example. Guilt does factor into wanting to fix a mistake; in Donatello's case, he feels responsible for Kirby turning into a mutant and wants to help him. That's the quintessential example of what the writers can do to make the crush not cringe inducing, but relatable. Of course, there are stinkers, particularly A Foot Too Big with April's kiss after Don accepted being wrong; certain episode involving Capril sometimes go for a feel good ending, which is a fault barring Target: April O'Neil. The writing is a severe conflict with the relationships, but if handled correctly you get heartwarming moments between April and the guy you ship.

Ultimately, even though Don has done more good than Casey to be with her, I can't see April being anything more than friends. Casey's arrogance as a vigilante can be annoying, but he seems somewhat absent minded. On the other hand, despite the good Donatello's done, the teasing and at times his personality are rather cringe inducing. I blame it more on the writing and overblowing the situation out of proportion as the show isn't through. Until a resolution or something is done without going to the extent of imagery, then I can't ship nor like either couple.

Tl;dr: Despite good moments spaced in the series and Don trying to do his best at certain points, the writing hurts both relationships, causing me to ship neither.

I don't think so. All I know about that version of Arnold is that Hun Killed him.

same here, except I have more on the Donnie part

Donnie along with.. Donnie? oogled over her body?
Also I think the chart thing was from 'Monkey Brains'

For me, if done right, both could go pretty nicely.

With Donnie...he's sweet- let's face it. Sure season one and a bit of two was cringe worthy while watching them sometimes. But I think it was a nice basis of what not to do (that the majority of teenage boys do anyway) and has kinda blossomed from that. Again, if Nick did it right, I'd be fine. But seeing, as Gold said, the only one they've nailed down good is Leo and Karai- I'd prefer April and Don as best friends, dorky nerds that enjoy science and the like.

As for Casey...it's kind of the same. Since they make this kid almost devoid of any other emotion besides either indifference or totally wicked, man! it just wouldn't work that well...not in my opinion.

In the comics (more specifically IDW) I love April and Casey’s relationship. Their dynamics are great! But that has to do with the more than excellent writing and characterization that IDW comics has. On top of that Don and April’s science bros type friendship flows nicely and something that I wish they had in the show.

So, in short, it's not really the characters themselves. It's more of tthe way the relationships- friendship or not- are executed and written. And, honestly, in the show, neither relationships are all the way there yet. :ohwell:

This feeling, when you ship an obscure ship...

These shipping names still trigger me. Why do they exist? Probably created by the younger tumblr crowd whose first exposure to TMNT is the Nick cartoon.

Back in my day we didn't use shipping names such as these, we didn't use shipping names at all!

Have you heard yourself? You sound like an oldman yelling at kids for stepping on his damn lawn. :lol:

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Except for the fact that portmanteau have been a fandom convention since the early 2000s.

April and Casey have been a pairing since the 80's in Mirage and I've never once heard, "Capril" being a name for them until the Nick show started.

Since when did people ever refer to April/Casey back in the 80's, 90's or early 2000's by that name? I never heard it before. And I've been in the online TMNT fandom for 15 years.

The concept of the fandom portmanteau dates back to the early 2000s, the first FanFic.net story using it was posted in 2014.

And I'd like to point out that you've been part of THIS portion of online fandom for 15 years. That hardly makes you an expert.

In the nick series both pairings suck balls. Capril or the other "thing" which is called Apritello are nothing more than forced relationships with little to no real ground to stand on.

The 4kids cartoon brought the pairing CaseyxApril rather good, it was not as cringeworthy as April and Casey or Donatello and April in the nick series. It felt natural, here however it feels kind of forced. Kind of.

But maybe i am just biased against both characters in this incarnation :D

Ship names are cute but annoying too. I think it is a younger crowd thing. I used to be April X Casey, for example, not an actual couple name. But TMNT is not the only one to do it, even sitcoms do it!

I'd choose Casey and April just so they can both leave the turtles alone.

but really...I want to choose neither.