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TurtleGuy 04-01-2016 10:21 PM

Does anyone here still enjoy the 80s series?
 
I ask because it seems that every time a thread involving the 80s series opens, there's always those guys who come in and say how much it sucked and that people need to take of their nostalgia goggles and see the show for the trash it truly is. I know there's a difference in opinions and a forum would be boring if everyone just agreed with everything but they keep doing this.

Every. Single. Time.

But enough of that rant. I just want to know is there anyone else on this forum who still at least likes this show?

I don't really care if the show doesn't have overdrawn overarching plots, character development, or focuses on humor. And I know that the other shows are "superior" in storytelling and action, but sometimes I just want to watch a fun show. That's it.

lonewarrior20 04-01-2016 10:27 PM

yes. yes sir i like it.

plastroncafe 04-01-2016 10:30 PM

I enjoy my memories of it, which is why I choose not to rewatch it.

TMNTooze 04-02-2016 12:56 AM

I bought the entire collection DVD set and like watching them. Reminds me of my childhood. I watched a few of the seasons with my kids but they do like the new TMNT cartoon better. Cant say I blame them since this is their time for turtles and cartoons look so high def. I will always like the originals and the new cartoon too.

CyberCubed 04-02-2016 01:00 AM

This forum is filled with people who like the cartoon, that much has always been obvious. Its just always the people who dislike it that tend to be the loudest.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1564687)
I enjoy my memories of it, which is why I choose not to rewatch it.

This is rather bizarre. Usually for shows/movies I haven't watched in ages I would want to rewatch them to see if my memories of them still hold up, or if I still like it.

Powder 04-02-2016 01:13 AM

Yeah, the hate is just a vocal minority. & even many of us who nitpick or resent it still like/love it, just not necessarily the effect it has had on the franchise.

CyberCubed 04-02-2016 01:15 AM

To be fair I actually see dislike for all 3 cartoons almost equally. There are plenty of bashers of the Nick cartoon, and I always see people say they "couldn't get into" the 2k3 series.

Weird, because I love all 3 for different reasons.

Zage 04-02-2016 01:28 AM

I still like the original series, just watched the two Lotus Blossom episodes, earlier. :D

Chabrendeki 04-02-2016 02:03 AM

I loved the Fred Wolf cartoon as a kid very much - it was definitely my favourite show.

Now, with my re-found Turtle-fandom, my connection to it failed... yet. But I'm still trying.

But even I don't make it, you will never see me as a hater of it, that's a promise. :tcool:

FredWolfLeonardo 04-02-2016 02:07 AM

Never grew up but heard about it after being introduced to the 2k12 series via a friend who grew up with it.

Watched it and loved it all the way through even though i was expecting it to be lame. The first episode I ever watched was Splinter Vanishes

My favourite version of turtles is a tie between the Fred Wolf cartoon and the current Nickelodeon series.

ssjup81 04-02-2016 05:24 AM

I still like the OT. Ironically, today I was decked out in OT gear. OT hoodie, t-shirt, and wallet. Unfortunately, I haven't any OT skirts. :-P

Prowler 04-02-2016 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1564718)
Yeah, the hate is just a vocal minority. & even many of us who nitpick or resent it still like/love it, just not necessarily the effect it has had on the franchise.

Pretty much this.

However, I do not enjoy it as much as I did back when I was a kid/teenager. I'm sure that having re-watched it several times in the past doesn't help either, but it's not the best TMNT version around.

I think a lot of Mirage fans are also a bit tired of all the latest nostalgia pandering of this series. Plus, Michael Bay's films seem like a pretty bad parody of the FW series. Back in the 2k3 series days, you didn't see FW related stuff everywhere, and the show didn't really have many throw backs to it, all thanks to Peter Laird, who wasn't big on the FW series, calling the shots. So I'd wager that there was stronger nostalgia for the FW series back then and also hope that the franchise would have moved past it eventually. But no. Almost 30 years later, the FW series still seems to be considered the standard by the general audience, and that upsets Turtles who are into many versions of the franchise, especially the Mirage ones, and understandably so.

So yeah, I like the FW series and many of its characters as much as the next guy, but I don't think it deserves all the attention it does nowadays after all these years. Let the franchise move on and get something to replace it as the standard.

DarkFell 04-02-2016 05:38 AM

I still do like the OT. It is interesting to note that I find the series even more enjoyable as an adult than I did as a child.

I lost interest in the show in my teenage years, forgot about the cartoon some years later ...and went back to watching it again.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2016 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1564727)
Watched it and loved it all the way through even though i was expecting it to be lame. The first episode I ever watched was Splinter Vanishes

One of the best during season 4.

thundermaster612 04-02-2016 05:50 AM

I enjoyed the 80s series and still do, the 2k3 series may have been my first exposure to TMNT but it wasn't long after that I found out about the old toon and started watching it.

Sadly in those days it was almost impossible to find episodes of the old series...

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2016 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thundermaster612 (Post 1564750)
I enjoyed the 80s series and still do, the 2k3 series may have been my first exposure to TMNT but it wasn't long after that I found out about the old toon and started watching it.

Sadly in those days it was almost impossible to find episodes of the old series...

I recall wanting to rewatch more than just my old videotapes back in late-2003 and early-2004, also having problems to find more episodes using the Internet. Today it's just search the Internet and it's there within the very next moment.

thundermaster612 04-02-2016 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1564751)
I recall wanting to rewatch more than just my old videotapes back in late-2003 and early-2004, also having problems to find more episodes using the Internet. Today it's just search the Internet and it's there within the very next moment.

Yeah, but to be honest I kind of enjoyed doing all that scrounging and searching on the deep web. It helped make me the tech guy I am today

Powder 04-02-2016 06:34 AM

You said you were 14.

Luzmagica 04-02-2016 07:01 AM

Another turtles all times lover here! Of course you can count me between people that love 80 OT :tgrin:

TigerClaw 04-02-2016 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1564719)
To be fair I actually see dislike for all 3 cartoons almost equally. There are plenty of bashers of the Nick cartoon, and I always see people say they "couldn't get into" the 2k3 series.

Weird, because I love all 3 for different reasons.

The ones who dislike them would be those who prefer the mirage comic, the 2k3 series was close to that, but they still dislike it for how it handled the shredder.

There's a vocal minority that like the comics more then the shows.

Etsyturtle2 04-02-2016 07:24 AM

i just enjoy the first three episodes and the theme song, but can't stand when someone else tries to emulate it and fails miserabley. (coughcoughnickelodeoncough)

mikey22 04-02-2016 08:40 AM

the old show had- great audio- great voice cast.



had they kept season 1s story going better with more mutated punks... more on shredder trying to create another retromtuagen gun.... where krang actually came from.


and more importanly mikey using his chucks as well as season 1s japanese anime for animation it woulda been better to watch now

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey22 (Post 1564779)
had they kept season 1s story going better with more mutated punks... more on shredder trying to create another retromtuagen gun.... where krang actually came from.

Shredder mutated more punks from Bebop's and Rocksteady's gang during late-season 1 (probably far away from all of them, since some appeared as humans in later episodes).

Aaronardo 04-02-2016 09:29 AM

I talk a lot of sh*t about it, but I still find a lot of enjoyment in it. I grew up on the DVDs of the show as they were being released, and they were pretty much my introduction to TMNT. Transdimensional Turtles on the Nick show gave me a reason to watch some of the 80s show again, and I was reminded on just how legitimately humorous it is. Super Rocksteady and Mighty Bebop in particular is just comedy gold.

Wesley 04-02-2016 10:37 AM

I still like the OT. It's not as good as I remembered it as a kid, but nearly half of the episodes are still fun to watch. I rewatched some of the series recently and I actually enjoyed some episodes more as an adult, as a lot of the humour went over my head as a kid. It's not one of the best shows out there and parts of it haven't aged well, but it's alright in small doses.

cammy85 04-02-2016 10:44 AM

Sadly, with the different tone for each season and certain episodes, I spend more time deciding and less watching. Knowing that I would blow through Seasons 1, 7 (Saturday episodes), 8 and 10 if given the chance.

ToTheNines 04-02-2016 10:51 AM

I still love it, especially season 3.

I actually just watched Leonardo Versus Tempestra last night.

plastroncafe 04-02-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1564716)
This is rather bizarre. Usually for shows/movies I haven't watched in ages I would want to rewatch them to see if my memories of them still hold up, or if I still like it.

It's almost like we're completely different people.
Weird.

ProactiveMan 04-02-2016 11:33 AM

I enjoy it, and I'm willing to admit that nostalgia plays a role, but I think nostalgia has gotten a bad wrap lately. Besides, people who tell you to 'take your nostalgia goggles off' are usually just trying to convince you that your love of something is invalid because it's subjective, without being self aware enough to realise that they dislike it for equally subjective reasons.

Unworthy tinker 04-02-2016 11:56 AM

I like it. It's my least favorite of the cartoons, but that's not to say it's actually "bad". Were there flaws? Yes, very, very many. The continuity may be all over the place, but it can totally be fun to watch. Sometimes you just need a laugh.
And I know this isn't nostalgia talking, because I didn't really grow up watching it. Sure, I saw a few episodes when I was like, five, but that's it. Heck, I just got finished watching it last Thursday.

Andrew NDB 04-02-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleGuy (Post 1564684)
But enough of that rant. I just want to know is there anyone else on this forum who still at least likes this show?

Pretty much everyone of The Powers That Be at Nickelodeon really, really, really love the 80s show. And since they're the gatekeepers of TMNT now, that's all that really matters.

Unfortunately.

neatoman 04-02-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1564827)
Pretty much everyone of The Powers That Be at Nickelodeon really, really, really love the 80s show. And since they're the gatekeepers of TMNT now, that's all that really matters.

Unfortunately.

If you're talking about the crew of the current cartoon then that's a maybe, if you're talking about the executives of Viacom I doubt they "really, really, really love the 80s show". It's more likely they just view TMNT as a money making asset and that (for the time being) instruct the people making new material to emulate what is (in their mind) the most successful version.

Not that it's very comforting either way, it's just that I don't think the gatekeepers really care about the property beyond how much money it can make them, that includes the Fred Wolf show.

billbot85 04-02-2016 12:44 PM

I still love the OT series, it was a huge part of my childhood. Sure there were some episodes that weren't that great, but that can be the case with almost any cartoon. Overall, the show was enjoyable and entertaining enough to have fond memories of and look back on, and I still enjoy it even as an adult. :tgrin:

Andrew NDB 04-02-2016 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1564834)
If you're talking about the crew of the current cartoon then that's a maybe, if you're talking about the executives of Viacom I doubt they "really, really, really love the 80s show". It's more likely they just view TMNT as a money making asset and that (for the time being) instruct the people making new material to emulate what is (in their mind) the most successful version.

Dan Berger was pretty clear when Viacom bought the TMNT, all the conversations he was privy to their main and central interest was in all things Fred Wolf. And each and every thing I've seen spawn from their ownership of the TMNT would lead me to conclude he was absolutely right.

MrPliggins 04-02-2016 12:55 PM

I loved the show when I was a kid into my teen years. I don't think I could binge watch it today like I did back then. If I had kids, I'm sure I'd have no problem watching it with them. I do still like to collect some of the cels, but watching the show is something I never feel like doing anymore (except maybe season 1 and 2). It's a fine show for kids which has aged pretty well.

However, I do feel the show should RIP and we don't need all of these OT crossovers and throwbacks. Turtles Forever was an awesome one-time thing, but the Nick show crossover with another one on the horizon is getting to be too much and feel redundant. I don't care to see the OT Turtles return again and again. Let's move forward.

neatoman 04-02-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1564839)
Dan Berger was pretty clear when Viacom bought the TMNT, all the conversations he was privy to their main and central interest was in all things Fred Wolf. And each and every thing I've seen spawn from their ownership of the TMNT would lead me to conclude he was absolutely right.

I'm not denying the Fred Wolf cartoon was a major part in Viacom's reasoning for buying TMNT, nor that it has influenced their marketing of the TMNT brand since.

I'm saying there's a difference between "loving" something and just seeing it as profitable.

BH Daimaouji 04-02-2016 01:05 PM

I do, i have it even on 3 DVD boxes, it may be a lighthearted show, but at least children can watch it without parents worrying

Candy Kappa 04-02-2016 01:24 PM

I enjoy the show a lot more now then I did as a kid.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2016 05:23 PM

Turtles Forever
 
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Originally Posted by MrPliggins (Post 1564842)
I loved the show when I was a kid into my teen years. I don't think I could binge watch it today like I did back then. If I had kids, I'm sure I'd have no problem watching it with them. I do still like to collect some of the cels, but watching the show is something I never feel like doing anymore (except maybe season 1 and 2). It's a fine show for kids which has aged pretty well.

However, I do feel the show should RIP and we don't need all of these OT crossovers and throwbacks. Turtles Forever was an awesome one-time thing, but the Nick show crossover with another one on the horizon is getting to be too much and feel redundant. I don't care to see the OT Turtles return again and again. Let's move forward.

I could live even without "Turtles Forever", since it started up all this hype of alternate realities with the turtles. Each TMNT version is great on its own and doesn't need support from others!

Cryomancer 04-02-2016 05:45 PM

It's effects on the franchise are the problem, definitely.

The show itself ranges from actually pretty funny or interesting to total worthless garbage. There's probably...at least two seasons of really good material in there, but unfortunately it's 10 seasons long. It's "harmless" and enjoyable on it's own, but when it's become this unstoppable force of...I don't even know how to describe it, but it gets really old really fast.

First season's pretty good, Krang is great, sometimes cool stuff happens or a joke lands. But then you have stuff like the Euro season or the dullness that is Red Sky that just drag it down. So when (nearly) the entire franchise is basically locked into a cage of eternal "childhood" made from (probably) mis-remembered nostalgia...yeah it's easier to say negative things about it than positive.

Much like how they couldn't go three feet without finding a new Shredder to fight in 2k3, there comes a time when it's better to move on than retread, and we're well past that. It's also really hard to develop a new feeling of warm remembrance for a setting that they continue to constantly pull from, reference, bring up, and straight up cross over into. Maybe try giving it a few years off first, guys?


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