Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 11: Revenge of the Triceratons
 

And here we are, episode 11.

The countdown to the end of the "Turtles in Space" arc has begun. And this is the season's first Don centered episode.

Plot: Donatello is feeling inferior to Fugitoid, but his intellect is put to the test when the Triceratons attack.

The log line is intriguing as there has been nothing thus far to indicate Donnie feels overshadowed by Fugitoid in any shape or form. But then again, Don's been relegated to the background for most of this season thus far. So who knows...

Whether we will see a 'Wrath of Khan" Reference or a beginning of the end to 'Capritello' we shall wait and see.

The episode is up on I Tunes.

What time does it air on tv?

11 AM EST :tsmile:

Well, that was certainly a lot of fun!



Sorry for the brief summary but I'm doing this on my phone and need to get to work. Talk to you guys later!

I like the episode a lot

Wow awesome episode, thanks Redworld ;)

I liked this episode.

If the Turtles fail once again, then it's bye bye planet Earth (and also, Master Splinter). :cry::lol:

almost time.

hah, just heard the Millennium Falcon Hyperdrive Fail sound.

lol Space Gremlins. Took them long enough to say so.

April though, telling them they'd have to come get it themselves... Uh, thanks, April? lol You don't call the shots, remember?


You know, Leo's been getting stepped on a lot lately. The shark, old Krang, now in this ep...

I know. That's why I'm excited for the Earth and Splinter's return. :tgrin:

So I just saw the episode early, and my first impression of it is that it's decent. Not the best episode of the space arc but probably the best Triceraton episode we've gotten since their debut. Essentially, it's another homage episode partially.

If you've seen Gremlins, it's sequel or know of the folklore of them in the mid 1900's, you've just seen a good portion of this episode. The designs were neat though reminded me of the 2002 Scooby-Doo monsters that Scrappy Doo utilized facial wise. Also, Mozar becoming a blood seeking monster was an awesome part of his character descending into madness. For the most part, nothing really to complain about except for one thing.

The main gripe I have with the episode though is that it feels Donatello questioning his intelligence wasn't played with enough. Sure, the Triceratons and gremlin creatures did get decent screentime, but I do wish Don had more to do. It's been a primary issue of mine throughout season 3 and 4: with so much to do in so little time, some things are kind of rushed. Unfortunately, for Don's only episode of the arc thus far (possibly at all) he's gotten the shaft big time. Just wished he could have gotten more to do as the plot looked good for him all things considered.

Overall, I don't think it was that bad of an episode, but a tiny bit disappointed. Certainly one of the best episodes in the space arc but could have been more with just an extra scene or two. I give it a 7 out of 10, decent episode that left me somewhat unsatisfied.

Positives:
+change in Mozar
+Gremlins homage
+The ending (adorable)
+Improvement in the writing department

Negatives:
-Don's plot not fully executed in potential
-Space gremlins also lacked importance (would have liked the Triceratons to join in with em)
-Mikey's television line (... really? :roll: I know Mikey loves T.V., but this is a serious issue, it can be fixed)
-April provoking the Triceratons to come (I'd expect that out of Casey or Raph, not her)

Well done episode that had a very good mix of writing, action, scariness, cleverness, and unexpected twists & turns. The Fugitoid being disabled twice, the two black hole pieces stolen, and the asteroid field even narrower than those shown in most sources really made this for a fun watch. I agree that as advertised Donnie wasn't featured enough, but if this was 1995-96, I would have dreaded the upcoming episode, but its time to move on to the Dreggnaugcht!

Show Grade: 8/10

IGN review up and I don't agree with Max's score this week.

7.5 :ohwell:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/04/0...eratons-review

I thought it was a good episode, i wonder how many are left since, they gotta retrieve that last piece of the generator from the triceratons.

One of the best episodes of this season. Definitely liked the fight scenes, specifically the turtles, April, Casey vs the triceraton one. I just like the triceratons' fighting style. I like how it was centered on Donnie, and the fact that he almost cried at the end was terrific.

3 more episodes left of the space arc. The 3rd piece of the generator will be in the episode The Ever Burning Fire which is in 2 weeks.

Gotta say, I'm gonna miss the space arc.

It was a good episode. It certainly felt like the writing improved for this and the crossover. It was a really good Donnie episode, but I think he should have had more focus. He's been ignored practically this whole season. :(
The humor was great. The tension was good. Unlike a lot of recent episodes, I was actually wondering how they were going to get out of this unhurt.
The Gremlins were easily the worst part of the episode. I didn't realize they were a reference to the movie until after the episode, probably because I despise that movie. Anway, why were they called a virus? I saw nothing in this episode that even related to the actual definition of 'virus', unless you really stretch it, because the Gremlins did tear apart the ship like viruses hurt the body. :ohwell:
Once again, Fugitoid was a highlight of the episode. What was the line he said about them being awesome? I forgot most of it.
Episode score: 8.2/10

Yeah, calling it that was kind of an ill fit. I was waiting for it to be an obvious sickness or computer virus. Hm. That was more of an infestation.





Though I was sitting there calling them Space Gremlins long before the Turtles finally said it, wasn't even expecting that they would. :tlol: Kinda loved the microwave reference.

What, no good one that becomes a pet?? :trazz:

Virus, not a virus, WHO CARES-we got to see Casey Jones murder a space gremlin in a microwave!

While underplayed, I did like Donnie's insecurity in this ep which I thought was a long time coming given his failure with the mutagen antidote. Also I'd freak out to if I was a scientist and learned my planet's science was THREE THOUSAND YEARS behind galactic standards. That...that's embarassing. BUT-gotta give love to the Fugitoid for being a total nicey nice this episode.

It did look like a virus when it come out of its rock and it did breed and spread like a virus.

I think there might be some Foreshadowing in Bradfords show. Bradford was down and got the Monkey to defend him while fighting ninjas. So maybe during the 2nd half of the season back in the New York, one of the Turtles is injured and the other Turtle will be fighting the foot bots and trying to defend the other injured Turtle.

On a side note, ever since Season 2, the series has only had 3 directors working on episodes in a cycle (First Wan, then Chang, then Montes). Nice to see Chang gets some help in this one with newly acquired (?) Ben Jones. I don't know if it'll help things move along for the animators or what not, but I can just imagine having only 2 other directors besides yourself can burn you out after a while.

To the episode itself though, this episode seemed to lack quite a bit of focus. This thing tried to juggle the underdeveloped Gremlins-esque virus(es), the suspense of trying to stay cloaked, Donatello needing to rebuild Fugitoid, April's use of the Aeons' shard, and protecting the black hole generator pieces they have--which actually got shoved to the end. These things actually distracted and detracted from each other quite a bit, some being more developed than the others. I don't know how Avatar: TLA did it, but it was able to do a lot in 23 minutes without feeling crammed; something that this series is having trouble with. With the highlight being the Chris Bradford cartoon and the guys' reactions to it (not to mention Fugitioid's ever lovable nature) the episode remained a competent but unexciting episode full of the kind of hijinks one associates with a sci-fi disaster setting. *6.5/10*

**I also noticed that Mozar still has that same outfit of his in RotAA as compared to his outfit from "Annihilation Earth". I've said it before and I'll say it again, the time travel rules of this series (started in TotY) have to result in the turtles having a hand in the events of "Annihilation Earth" happening, and so far they're playing up to that. ...Which means, yes, we're going to see Mozar fulfill his destiny as Emperor--perhaps because of acquiring all three pieces--and our gang needs a bag of tricks to prevent history from fulfilling/correcting its course.

So the Heart of Darkness is invulnerable? Didn't Slash smash it up with his mace in Annihilation Earth?

No he didn't, he smashed a control panel but the Triceratons fixed it.

You should know by now that the guys at IGN are very picky.

And theory time! How the Triceratons managed to track the gang down is never explained in this episode. They either planted a tracking device in the first piece, or they teamed up with Lord Dregg.

Yeah I know but so far this season I agreed with his scores, except this one.

And pretty easy on the episodes too.

P.S. "We're naked"--Leo (as the ship's cloak is removed)

You just realized that about yourselves, Leo? :tlol:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/3d9663a6...uyg2o1_540.jpg

:lol:

the show always had this obsession with butt shots.

Are they pulling a Vader vs Ahsoka again? Hate people like that.

So wait, if the black hole weapon can't be destroyed, why did they state their mission was to destroy it last time? "Let's spend fourteen episodes trying to destroy something that can't be destroyed!" :roll:.

Is it ironic that Fugitoid has lost his head and thus leaving the turtles basically helpless in two versions at the same time? That's happening in the current IDW arch. Nickelodeon, what are you doing???

The Chris Bradford cartoon bit was great, though. "You can do it! For the honey nuts!"

Yeah this is a pretty funny coincidence... Or is it?

It's been mentioned in a few episodes that it can't be destroyed but Fugitoid thinks there might be way to destroy it.

There have been theory's on how it can be destroyed. Someone said that Fugitoid will sacrifice himself by using his fusion bomb to destroy it. My theory is that it probably can be destroyed when it's activated by someone destroying it from the other side of the black hole but that person is sacrificed also.