Battle Angel Alita
 

After years of development it looks like this is finally moving forward.

In October it was announced that Robert Rodriguez would be directing.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...teaming-832157

Today it was announced that the title role has been cast - Rose Salazar.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...r-james-897873

It's good to see this is still happening. I thought Jim Cameron would be too bogged down with Avatar sequels to ever actually do it.

I really would have liked to see what James Cameron's version would have been like. I do not like Robert Rodriguez as a director and am not impressed with the casting of the main character.

Fox also set a release date for July 20, 2018

http://deadline.com/2016/05/warner-b...en-1201764118/

just like Ghost in the Shell, doesn't matter if the movie is good or not, as long as I get the "Deluxe" editions, I'm good. Though wish those translations did keep Alita's original name "Gally"

Oh well, what can you do.

Maybe the original anime will get a get a re-release, too.

Hopefully subs aren’t like stand alone complex

Big budget anime adaptation? Modern day Robert Rodriguez at the helm? This doesn't bode well at all. And how long until "those people" start complaining the whole cast isn't Japanese, or whatever?

I really like Rosa Salazar. She can pull off tough and has a pretty unique look.

Here's the full trailer:



I think it looks interesting enough.

Whoever okay ed Alita design should be shot repeatedly

I don't mind her looking like a real-life anime character. When people make robots like that you can bet your pants someone will make'em like a cartoon character, so I guess it's a neat reference to the source material being a manga/anime.

But she does look like one of those 3D artworks depicting carton characters with super realistic skin textures, eyes and wrinkles which is distracting when she seems to be the only one like that.

That's really the actress, though. It's not motion capture (well, I'm sure they painted her real arms green or blue or whatever) or anything. All they did was put a lot of makeup on the actress and cut and paste her eyes back onto the face and made them bigger, anime-like. But that's her real body, real hair, skin, all of that.

Here's the actress:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/92/79/99/9...etty-woman.jpg

Movie looks good, not familiar with the source material but I remember as a kid always seeing ads on anime magazines.

I still gotta watch GOTS, movie didn't look bad, I don't care what critics say.

Interested to see it myself. Though it has so many even non-SJW-influenced reviews ("Why isn't everyone Japanese??? BOYCOTT THIS AMERICAN ADAPTATION!!!") destroying it... I would have to put the odds that it's actually any good pretty low.

I probably would have drug myself to the theater to see it if it was R-rated. Not a whole lot of enthusiasm for movies with a bunch of people shooting and killing each other if they can't even show it. Let's see if "Alita" is allowed to actually have any teeth.

I love it and I'm so excited but by God her eyes are giving me goddamn nightmares! I get the "anime style" they are going for, but damn.... bring it down just a notch.

They're not a deal breaker for me but I do wish they'd have just left the actress alone beyond conventional makeup.

I like the eyes. It rally seperates us from the human side as her body isnt even real.

I like what they're doing with the face since it gets you to uncanny valley which is what I"m guessing they're going for.

This looks like a far more respectful adaptation of its source material than GiTS turned out to be.

Looks terrible, but not surprised.

It's not a deal breaker for me either, I just thing if they dialed it back just a touch she would look more "innocent doe-eyed anime style" and little less "terrifying android Barbie"

I watched the trailer and read a little bit about the source material, I'm in 100%, don't care if it stinks up the B.O.

Looks good to me. The original was a big part of the 90s Anime boom - you'd hear it in the same breath as Akira and Ghost in the Shell. It's surprising that it's kind'a forgotten now.

Elysium kind'a ripped-off its central premise, so I hope that doesn't hurt it's chances.

From what I understand, that's how she looks like in the original manga/anime. And I don't mean because she's an anime character, I mean as in... other characters in her own series notice and point out that she does have bigger than normal eyes in-universe. From what I get, she's a doll-like android and is supposed to look like that. So hey, kudos to the movie for not screwing that up and keeping that detail.

Even though I haven't read the series I heard from people who have that characters point out her lips than her eyes in fact one of her nicknames is octopus lips
http://battleangel.wikia.com/wiki/Alita

In fact here is a human male in front of Alita

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RMKle5if-80/hqdefault.jpg

Her eyes are slightly bigger but they aren't inhuman

This girl right here, also human(though her brother is a cyborg)

https://78.media.tumblr.com/b4ae6316...7q4ko1_540.png

I'll have to read up, I heard she even gets made fun of because of her eyes. If anything, that pic looks like the guy's eyes are big due to surprise and her eyes are big by default, but idk. I'd imagine if they're gonna make fun of her eyes and lips they should not make the other non-doll characters look like that too to make the differences more notable.

Either way, if she has big eyes in-universe, than the movie adaptation is fine. It would be like complaining about the Hulk being so unbelievably huge for a normal muscular man when that's how he is in the comics. I believe most of the people complaining are ones that have never even heard of the series.

I think it's pretty simple. Rodriguez and/or Cameron said "main chick should have anime eyes!" So she does. It's a creative decision. Why attack it?

Mainly because it lurks in the uncanny valley and does not fit with the realistic aesthetic of everything else in the world. We've come a long way in CG, but we're still not quite there yet; see also CG Tarkin, the furthest anyone's come to realistic looking CG humans so far, and how all anyone seemed to want to talk about from Rogue One is how off he felt. She does have big eyes in the manga, but so do a lot of characters, including the regular humans, because it's a stylistic choice that works with the art style of the world the artist has developed. It's consistent. Here, she just has big eyes because that's an anime thing and it does not work with the realistic bent you naturally get from live action. See Ido, the scientist, for example. Just a regular guy in the trailer, when in the manga, he looks like this.

http://shakyamuni.chez.com/S%E9ries/.../Gunnm/ido.jpg

Basically, the point is, they took one thing from the manga and transplanted it and, outside of the rest of the style and in something where everything looks realish, it sticks out in the wrong way. It's a weird half measure that just doesn't look right, proportionally, and if they wanted to emulate the style they ought to have just gone whole hog and done a full CG animated film with the style of everything translated. I've seen some try to defend it with "uncanny valley is the point, she's a cyborg, she sticks out", except that's not how it works for the character. If anything, her lips got more attention in story than anything else, complete with embarrassing nicknames, because her face is otherwise normalish. You already get that otherness anyway with the fact that ninety percent of her body is cybernetic; she's literally a brain in a cyborg body.

Plus it leaves a lot of the character, clothes included, as pure CG, which again stands out next to flesh and blood actors.

It doesn't bother some people, but it does get to a lot more - I personally think it looks pretty bad and repulsive, but my opinion is to be taken with a grain of salt, because I've never been a huge fan of heavy CG, especially on human characters - and I have a nasty feeling this is going to turn off or stick with general audiences more than anything else about it. It could be a great adaptation otherwise, and with the people involved it has a good shot, but it could easily end up known as "that movie with the weird bug eyes". After the heartbreak of Blade Runner 2049 not performing in theaters, it would really suck if this turned out to be good and another cyberpunk film ended up sunk because of something silly they didn't need to do.

But all that is really just me vomiting words when I could probably just sum it all up with "because it looks silly".

It would have worked better if they gave everyone else anime eyes...well maybe not.

But she has 'anime eyes' in universe... to the point characters in her own series point it out...

I don't even know what this is, but those freaking anime eyes on an otherwise realistic-looking character...

Yeesh.

If the eyes are the only thing people can really complain about, I consider that a positive thing. I mean, she's an android. She's supposed to have that "uncanny valley" thing going on.

I checked Amazon and the special editions of the manga will be presented as hardcover volumes in the original right-to-left reading format, unlike the versions I remember seeing years ago at the library.

Looks like there were nine initial volumes of it before any spin-offs/alternate endings, five of which are already showing on the site, with the first one being currently available for purchase.

Apparently the new versions are full-size, rather than digest size, which is nice.

I can see this being an awesome movie but being nitpicked to death by FAKE geek culture websites and most people just repeating what their favorite websites/youtubers said.

I'm already seeing that with Ready Player One.

A minor edit, but now I can totally agree with it.

I have to admit that I didn't have any real interest in this movie until I saw that Rodriguez was directing.

It's already happening here with people complaining about her eyes without knowing that's how she's supposed to be and we're supposed to be the geeks that know that stuff.

I'm just ready for whenever that Spiderverse movie is out and these non-comic readers start complaining about why Spiderman is black.

Let's be honest, there's already comic readers complaining about that too.

I, for one, get to critique whatever I want to critique.

I know nothing about the IP or character. I see this screencap, I don't like it, and I decide "Nah, I'm not interested."

That's all I gotta do. If this is accurate to the source, then that's a very interesting creative choice and I get why it would please some people. Glad to know some people are on board. But as a filthy casual, I see this and raise it a "nope."

Again people in the manga mostly point out her lips than her eyes so if James Cameron or Rodriguez wanted to be closer to the source they would've CG the character's lips instead of her eyes. Also again this is what a human girl looks like in the manga

[IMG]https://78.media.tumblr.com/b4ae6316...7q4ko1_540.png[/IMG]

I mean the eyes aren't a huge dealbreaker for me and if the film is good I'll watch it but I could really do without the eyes

Unfortunately for the film - especially if it IS good - I have a bad feeling you're not going to be alone in that.

Yeah, she gets s*** for her lips, including nicknames. A ton of characters have big eyes like hers, even humans. It's part of the art style.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110321232047
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110325052645
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110415034507