Tragic Shooting In Orlando
 

Up to 50 dead:o

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...uspect-updates

That's a shame. I hate the world sometimes.

Apparently the shooter had radical leanings and didn't like the fact that men were kissing other men in his state.

These hollow tweets from politicians wishing their thoughts and prayers almost infuriate me as much as the actual shootings.

...why, exactly? Are people not allowed to express condolences?

It's simply awful with what has been happening in Orlando this past weekend. First musician Christina Grimmie was shot there and now this.

No one is saying they're not allowed to express their condolences, only that said condolences ring particularly hollow when those same elected representatives do nothing to quell the situation with the power that's been given to them by their constituents.

In short: They're praying for wind when they've been elected to paddle for shore.

I don't think it's a coincidence that this happened during Pride.
Just like I don't think This Guy From Indiana was just in West Hollywood for no reason.

Correction:
The ban on gay men donating blood is still in effect.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/12/11...nation-orlando
Sigh.

If they didn't you'd complain just as much

But YEAH MAN REVOLUTION HELL YEAH FIGHT CLUB BAD GUBBERMENT HUH

...and I'm sure this thread is going south faster than a lightning by turning into a gun control debate. So I'll just say this:

There's some messed up people in this world.

Copycat crime averted

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...nap-story.html

If I had to pick a President based on nothing but their attitude from the tweets in that article, Hillary all the way.

Trump's comments weren't surprising at all. He's getting predictable by now.

He's right though. Between this and the California shooting terrorism on US grounds is becoming more and more of a threat each day.

Heard about this at my church today. Such a senseless tragedy. :(

Sue but has all of it been perpetrated by muslim radicals?

Not yet for sure, but really, 53 people dead? C'mon man that's a lot. Losing your life because of terrorism is a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

You're right about that. Though let's wait to see if this guy really had ISIS connections or not. Or if he just was a loonie fanboy with no ties to them.

It's kind of scummy to look down on anyone saying they feel bad about a tragedy but sure, whatevs.

Great, watch the islamphobes use this hate crime as an excuse to attack Muslims.

It's a smorgasbord for people of a certain political ilk.
They can demonize Muslims more, and be smug about how a bunch of gay people are dead.

Like...say for instance the Lt Govenor of Texas.

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick deletes "reap what you sow" tweet after mass shooting at LGBT club

WATCH: Ted Cruz Campaign Calls Attending 'Kill the Gays' Conference 'A Mistake'

What?

My problem isn't that they are offering condolences. My problem is it's the same **** every 1-2 months when something like his happens. Use your power as an elected official to actually do something to stop things like this from happening. Like I said in my original post, these tweets come off hollow when tragedies like this continue to happen and all we get are more tweets saying the same thing.

America had over 350 mass shootings last year, surprisingly only two were committed by Muslims.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckwu6XpW0AEDMYF.jpg

Its like people only care about group attacks if they're Muslim but not when they're Christian.

Yet no one cares when Christian groups like Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK have morbid things to say.
https://twitter.com/WBCSaysRepent/st...07751828766720
https://twitter.com/WBCSaysRepent/st...12037572628482

Oh please. Half of those people aren't even actually christian if they commit mass shootings. Plus when 80% of your country belongs to a religion yeah the numbers are gonna show on the crime rates.

Most people are christian by name only.

And most terror acts are commited overseas. Them coming over here is the threat.

Ah, the No True Scotsman fallacy at work I see.

No true christian f*cking shoots someone.

I know what it is, don't take me for a f*cking idiot.

I'm still sticking with what I said. If you go out and commit a mass shooting, they probably aren't even conciously aware of their religion, just keeping it as a name. If they are, they could repent of course, but that's not how people are. 80% of America is Christian. That's a lot. There's bound to be some killers in there, so it's not suprising when all those crimes were commited by Christians.

There's a major difference between belonging to a religion and committing murder, and committing a murder in the name of a religion...


Really sick and tired of all these mass shootings, sick and tired of people bitching about race or religion or anything related to the shooters or how the media covers them.

Something needs to be ****ing done. Believe in stricter gun control, or don't, but there is no ****ing reason private citizens should be able to own assault rifles. Dear ****ing lord. If you have any other opinion on that, you're a complete dumbass. There's no defense for it. You can sit there and whine about constitutional rights and you can have the opinion on hand guns and hunting rifles, but the weapons used for these mass shootings are weapons of mass destruction. No amount of background or psychological checks can ever permit an individual to hold one of these.

My heart goes out to all the victims and the families of those affected by this. I can't even imagine the pain. No one should have had to deal with this

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1465760301045.jpg

Woo wee look at mee I can pull out infographics see?

I don't own any guns, but really not everyone is f*cking insane and will snap and commit a mass shooting just by owning a gun. That's just taking away something just because of a few bad apples. Banning assault rifles probably wouldn't do anything because mass shootings will always happen. Yet you can't ban every gun, because self protection and hunting (like you said) are a thing. It's a tough situation.

This x1000. There are extremists in every religion, or those who hijack a religion to justify their own hatreds and phobias.

There are just as many Christians who give Christianity a bad name as there are Muslims who give Islam a bad name.

It's pretty much ALWAYS embarrassing to be a Texan. Great leaders in my state, eh? :trolleye:

It's just that Christianity is pretty much the only religion that's ok to sh*t on for some reason. The radical muslims are a lot more vocal than the radical christians, and when you have the SJW's on your side, you're f*cking protected.

There was a report that he claimed he had ties to ISIS in a 911 call.

But tell me, what purpose need or right does any private citizen have to own an assault rifle? None. There's no defense for it other than "we want it," which, sucks, can't have everything you want. they pose a major threat to so many, even if it's just that one person that snaps. Yes, you can ban assault rifles, take them away from everyone because a few (hundreds now) have ruined it for everyone. too bad.

And will it completely stop mass shootings? Hell no. But look at the top 10 or so most fatal mass shootings in the past year. All of them were committed with assault rifles or similar weapons, not pistols and hunting rifles.
It'll take a significantly longer time and more difficult time to slaughter 50 people and injured 53 more in a club with a pistol or two than an assault weapon that can mow them down.

There is no need. There is too big of a threat.

Gun control on the lighter weapons I'll give you, it's a tough situation. But specifically assault weapons, not at all. There is not one good reason any citizen should legally be allowed to own them.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...hree-days-ago/

Nobody listens

Yeah you won me over. There's really no reason to own them. Times are changing.

Don't tell me all Christians aren't this way, tell them. Tell the Lt governor from Texas.

I believe you need the best weapons in order to defend ones self. If we had gun laws like the wild west, I think the mass shootings will go down. Whats the point of defended oneself if they have say a 6 shooter, and the attacker has a assault weapon. It would not be fair for the defender to be able to stand up to that fire power with out a weapon to equal it.