UK likely to leave EU
 

I really can't believe we've voted for it... and the lies told by the Leave camp are already unwinding. No new money for the NHS, it will likely be needed to guard against the austerity needed by leaving for the next few years. Probably can't keep EU workers from coming into the country.

Pound down against the dollar by 10%. World markets dropping by almost the same amount. The UK economy has lost this morning in value more than 40 years worth of EU contributions. Scotland will likely press to go independent again considering how Remain it voted overall.

It's a complete fustercluck :ohwell:

The best equivalent I can really think of is Texas successfully becoming independent from the rest of the US. But that's on a far smaller scale than this here.

Not at all. Since when is Britan comparable to ... Tex... Lol...

As someone who does business with folks in London, I for one welcome a cheaper pound... :lol:

But seriously, everyone's shocked. I doubt it will stick.

EDIT: Holy ****, Cameron Just resigned? Damn, next up, President Trump.

Hopefully this won't come to fruition.

A friend of mine lives in Manchester, and she is really worried about this as her living situation would be a whole lot worse if UK leaves EU. And as this is happening she can't exchange Pounds into NOK as she is visiting Norway in August, she was literally laughed at by the people at the exchange counter.



Edit: ... Oh ****...

Pound down by 8%

Down by 12% earlier...

Sometimes I wish I better understood money markets. You know some suit just cashed in huge in the last three hours.

If they don't abide by the will of the people, they will only bring about a national uprising and there will be riots (need I remind you what happened over Tuition fees?)

This is going to happen. If they were just going to ignore it, Cameron wouldn't have resigned.

A two percent majority vote is hardly the will of the people.

The map is incredible, literally a split yes/no right across the middle.

Just saying...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...25/Lex2000.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qbgpdxSktg...ump%2BTime.jpg

Scotland and Ireland voted to stay, wonder how this will affect the union.

Boris "stole Trump's old toupee" Johnson could replace Cameron... It's like the racist assholes that drags everyone else with them down the gutter wants UK to become a living hell.

Is it really a race war, or a culture war? I see conflicting presentations of race relations in England. We have a sliding scale here, but it's always in the air. The English seem to be more tolerant of skin color, but less so of religion, and immigration just in general.

A dude on Bloomberg was saying that Scotland needs immigrants to sustain its economy, which is why it voted the way it did.

All countries need migration. Either skilled workers that the country in question does not have enough of, or people willing to work for minimum wage (or below in some cases) because the indigenous population don't want to lower themselves to perform such tasks. Cleaners, nannies, bar staff... parking attendants :lol:

The old folks and the "have nots" just see too many people coming into this country and wanted to stop that, hence voting Leave so "we can control our borders". Ignoring the fact that more people from outside the EU enter the UK each year than from within the EU. The country is always changing, unstoppably, and evidently those two demographics didn't like it.

"They're taking our jobs!" - well see above.

"They're taking our benefits!" - immigrants have to be here at least three months first before they can, and if they are working, how can they be doing both?! Okay, so if they are working they can claim housing benefits, but that's like any regular UK citizen can. It's not like they are getting mysterious benefits that UK citizens cannot.

Frankly I'm most surprised by Wales, as it receives net EU money, and they voted out. At least Scotland and NI saw the reality.

Nigel Farage admits promises of money going to the NHS in leave ads may have been a mistake


https://amp.twimg.com/v/6ca5195b-a8a...9-92440b9a25d6

Will never happen.

Next step of the denial phase: "I'm going to Canada":P

(assuming you aren't already there of course)

Good to know we're not the only nation with voting idiot majorities... :tconfuse:

I would be OK with skipping paying membership.

So, Uk friends, seems like you may be getting Boris Johnson for PM....he reminds me alot of Trump. If our silly old and uneducated red neck people vote Trump in, they'll be good friends I bet.

Edit: scared old people. Scared poor people. Scared uneducated people. They all vote the same.

The Conservative party, as the party in government, gets to chose the nominees. If Boris isn't nominated, he can't become PM. So we'll await who gets nominated, and who then gets voted to be party leader. It isn't a shoe-in.

My brother is none of these three and yet he voted Leave :ohwell:

I voted remain as changing everything will cost time and money. The UK is doomed. I hope Nandos isn't leaving the UK, I love Nandos.

I just can't believe that people who voted out are starting to regret it now. I want to ****ing kill them :flaming:

So Trump shot his mouth off again and oraised Scotland for breaking away. Scotland and Ireland voted to stay. Will this result in Great Brtain (England and Wales) to have their own country and Scotland becoming independent with Northern Ireland reuniting with Ireland?

As an American who is completely ignorant of all this, can someone explain to me the negative affects? A bulletpoint list would suffice.

I have been keeping up with it the past week or so,but I think a poster from the United Kingdom is best to explain. I personally see it effecting the stock market and U.S. relations with the different parts of the U.K. changing and others. It is probably best that the U.K. make a bold statement like this. Maybe this can help explain the pros and cons.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/eu-referendum

He won't win. I'm confident he'll pick a horrid running mate. The GOP hasn't had anyone worth taking seriously win their primary in like 20 years or longer. Past two elections have shown that.

And despite the idiots who like him and the conservatives who are just gonna hold their noses and vote for him, he's pissed off too many demographics within the Right.

Hilary Clinton is pretty much a lock for the next president, anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Never underestimate ignorant, angry, racists.

Rednecks don't outnumber intelligent people in the U.S., thankfully. Likewise, probably most of the female population will vote for Hilary simply because they want to see a woman president.

These days, I wonder...

Well Great Britain no longers gets to exploit Middle Easterners and Eastern Europeans for cheap labor. British Millennials will now have to scrub toilets and change the diapers of their elderly parents.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/young...43811714.html#

Also the refugees were not the cause of the Brexit, just a symptom of Russian Sanctions and interference in Syria and Ukraine caused by the European Union and NATO.

Well, they better get cracking then.

Right now, Hilary's the default option. That doesn't make her a lock. It's a cornelian dilemma.

The problem with the European Union is not the Union itself but European federalism. 70% or so of each state member's laws come from Brussels, which is stupid. Each country has its own context and certain policies might not work so well for them like they do in others.

The Euro comes in handy when travelling but everything got twice more expensive after it became the currency of several EU countries.

Countries like Switzerland and Norway are lucky in the sense that they can be economically free enough to not need to join the EU.

There is no way anyone else will be president at this point of the game.

The conventions may change that. The debates may also change that. I think you're naive if you think Hilary is a lock. She's about as like-able as Nixon.

How did this turn into a Trump discussion?

And I don't see why you Americans are so afraid of the possibility of Trump winning. It's not like he'll become a God Emperor or anything. Opposition and even his advisers and people from his own party will veto his **** and such. Not to mention a lot that he says is mere populism.

Wars out there? All American presidents invade sand countries and steal their oil. So don't act like Trump doing that would be any different.

You clearly don't understand what Trump is.

Anyway, lots of petitions, and one for London to leave England is interesting.

London and England are like...the same thing.

He's a loudmouth, that I know. But also a populist.

It seems that no one talks about his economic, educational, etc policies. Just about his hatred for Mexican illegals and Islam.

In before the lock!

If I didn't know and love so many people in the UK I would probably be morbidly curious at watching the further downward spiral of what was once the greatest empire the world has ever known.

Just seeing how quickly the Pound dropped in value overnight is...staggering.
This is not going to end well for anyone, except maybe Scotland. Possibly Ireland.

I would attribute that to the Romans.

Agreed. I've got a lot of family and friends in the various nations in the UK, so...

Staggering and depressing. Poor pound.