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WolvDragon 06-27-2016 01:15 AM

Chances for season 6 renewal?
 
Usually this would be the time Nick will announce if more seasons for this show will be ordered. I been watching carefully to see if they either renewed it for season 6 or if Nick finally ended it once and for all.

This is based off info from wikipedia so let me disclose it first. But according to the ratings posted in the episode guide for this show they have been pretty stable throughout season 4, and dipping just by a few since season 3, but more or less staying the same above 1 million viewers watching it through TV, so this excludes any internet viewership.

I don't know if we should attribute it's future to TMNT 2 not being successful at Box Office. But do you think the movie's less than stellar Box Office results will have any impact on the shows future? Seeing how this movie hasn't been released in China yet, I guess it's kinda premature to say it's not what Nick expected. However, at the moment the movie is not doing so well.

Basic point is, with the movie not raking in the money, and the ratings more or less staying the same. Do you think season 6 could still happen or is season 5 the last hurrah?

I should also point out that I'm not aware if TMNT toys are selling good enough. And since toys sometimes determine the fate of cartoons (Young Justice for example) I think this should be a likely factor as well to determine if the show gets renewed for another season.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 02:27 AM

I fully expect the show to have a 7 season run. I'm sure we'll hear news of a renewal sometime either late this year or early next year.

FredWolfLeonardo 06-27-2016 02:43 AM

I am content with the show ending at season 5. We would still have a total of 124 episodes for the whole series, not counting the movies, half shell heroes specials and various other forms of tmnt media produced throughout this generation.

WolvDragon 06-27-2016 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1595989)
I am content with the show ending at season 5. We would still have a total of 124 episodes for the whole series, not counting the movies, half shell heroes specials and various other forms of tmnt media produced throughout this generation.

I hope they aim for at least 6 or 7 seasons. But I am fine if the show did end at season 5. It will have over 100 episodes, thus keeping tradition of TMNT cartoons lasting a good long while over other cartoons.

So as long as they conclude the main story between the Turtles in their fight against Shredder.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1595989)
I am content with the show ending at season 5. We would still have a total of 124 episodes for the whole series, not counting the movies, half shell heroes specials and various other forms of tmnt media produced throughout this generation.

Both previous TMNT cartoons made at least 150 episodes:

Original cartoon: 193 total episodes

2k3 series: 156 episodes and Turtles Forever

Anything less than 150 episodes for the Nick cartoon is a failure in my eyes.

biganimefan 06-27-2016 03:16 AM

If memory serves, they announced season 5 at the San Diego Comic-con last year and the year before that they announced season 4. I think chances are good we'll hear something during this year's Comic-con. If not...then maybe next year will finally get a renewal for season 6. We'll see.

Tarris Vaal 06-27-2016 03:37 AM

I'd like them to go the full 7 seasons if they could, but I am well aware that this latest round for the franchise does seem to be winding down (and has been on tv for some time now)

I'm happy so long as the series actually 'ends' with a nice conclusion and doesn't just cut off with all the plot threads unresolved.

Drives me nuts when series do that :tmad:

neatoman 06-27-2016 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1595991)
Anything less than 150 episodes for the Nick cartoon is a failure in my eyes.

That is an unusually high expectation, most cartoons don't last more than 52 episodes anyway so you should just be happy it has already passed that threshold.

thundermaster612 06-27-2016 05:17 AM

It's either it ends at 8 seasons for me or (most preferably) 11 seasons...

What? It either beats 2k3's record or the official '87 record.

FredWolfLeonardo 06-27-2016 07:01 AM

Its interesting to note how the 5th season has 20 seasons instead of the usual 26. For a while, season 4 was also meant to have 20 until they suddenly changed it back to 26. I see it as a sudden decision to extend the show's lifespan because for a while, i thought it would end at season 4 due to the lower number of episodes.

Regardless though, if theres sometime to really find out, it will be during this years comic con.

thundermaster612 06-27-2016 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1596023)
Its interesting to note how the 5th season has 20 seasons instead of the usual 26. For a while, season 4 was also meant to have 20 until they suddenly changed it back to 26. I see it as a sudden decision to extend the show's lifespan because for a while, i thought it would end at season 4 due to the lower number of episodes.

Regardless though, if theres sometime to really find out, it will be during this years comic con.

Since when is season-ception a thing?
Eh, nice to know the show has beat records already in 4 years

ABrown 06-27-2016 11:27 AM

I don't see any reason that the show won't have a sixth season. The only major competition that the brand has right now is Star Wars. And the two seem to both be flourishing.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-27-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1595985)
I fully expect the show to have a 7 season run. I'm sure we'll hear news of a renewal sometime either late this year or early next year.

And a TV movie. Don't forget the TV movie.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1596009)
That is an unusually high expectation, most cartoons don't last more than 52 episodes anyway so you should just be happy it has already passed that threshold.

Well that's my point, TMNT cartoons tend to go on a very long time.

Most other cartoons get canceled after 26-65 episodes or so, very few action cartoons go on for more than 100 episodes. In fact other than TMNT I think the only other ones are B:TAS? Almost all other DC and Marvel cartoons get canceled early.

NinjaPug 06-27-2016 11:59 AM

With the 2nd half of season 4 not scheduled to start until September I don't think we'll be hearing anything about a potential S6 renewal this year.

Luzmagica 06-27-2016 12:16 PM

they must continue! we need to know what happens yet! ..i mean still being some stories for developing! :tgrin::tgrin:

ToTheNines 06-27-2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1596089)
With the 2nd half of season 4 not scheduled to start until September I don't think we'll be hearing anything about a potential S6 renewal this year.

Yup. At best, a potential sixth season won't debut until early 2018.

snake 06-27-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596082)
Well that's my point, TMNT cartoons tend to go on a very long time.

Most other cartoons get canceled after 26-65 episodes or so, very few action cartoons go on for more than 100 episodes. In fact other than TMNT I think the only other ones are B:TAS? Almost all other DC and Marvel cartoons get canceled early.

Star Wars: The Clone Wars had over 100 and Avatar had 3 seasons. Ben Ten lasted over 9 years through 4 shows with the same continuity outside of the 4th one.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 12:41 PM

Yeah I forgot about Star Wars.

Avatar only made 62 episodes or so though.

Aaronardo 06-27-2016 12:48 PM

Unless you count Legend of Korra which is in the same universe with the same continuity, in which case Avatar has in total 7 seasons with a total of 113 episodes. But that all depends on if you count them both together.

On the topic of a Season 6 renewal, I can't see it not happening. The show's popular enough as is the brand. Nickelodeon will most likely announce it at their upfront next year. Fans of the show shouldn't have anything to worry about.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo (Post 1596105)
Unless you count Legend of Korra which is in the same universe with the same continuity, in which case Avatar has in total 7 seasons with a total of 113 episodes. But that all depends on if you count them both together.

Avatar and Korra are completely different shows, and they started years apart from one another. I have no idea why anyone would count them as the same show.

Andrew NDB 06-27-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596106)
Avatar and Korra are completely different shows, and they started years apart from one another. I have no idea why anyone would count them as the same show.

Yeah, that'd be like calling the final season of Star Trek: The Next Generation "Season 10 of Star Trek."

neatoman 06-27-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596082)
Well that's my point, TMNT cartoons tend to go on a very long time.

Most other cartoons get canceled after 26-65 episodes or so, very few action cartoons go on for more than 100 episodes. In fact other than TMNT I think the only other ones are B:TAS? Almost all other DC and Marvel cartoons get canceled early.

... Well there's really only been 2 TMNT cartoons before this one and the only live-action show never got past 26 episodes. If there is no season 6 this will still have had 124 episodes, that's actually pretty impressive.

Foombamaroom 06-27-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596106)
Avatar and Korra are completely different shows, and they started years apart from one another. I have no idea why anyone would count them as the same show.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1596109)
Yeah, that'd be like calling the final season of Star Trek: The Next Generation "Season 10 of Star Trek."

Yeah, this is a great example. They're both still "Avatar", but they're two completely different stories. They just coexist in the same universe with different characters.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 06:37 PM

Shows in the same continuity aren't the same show. That's like saying all of Batman: TAS, Superman, Batman Beyond and Justice League are the same show when they're 4 different series all sharing one universe.

Technically you can say every TMNT cartoon is in continuity with each other now due to all the crossovers even though they're 3 separate shows.

Papenbrook 06-27-2016 08:00 PM

I don't want the show to be renewed for a sixth season.

I think it's pointless. The show is already suffering from seasonal rot. I just want the show to end already.

Aaronardo 06-27-2016 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1596176)
I think it's pointless. The show is already suffering from seasonal rot. I just want the show to end already.

Didn't Ciro express interest about comprising seasons after season 5 with some of the IDW arcs? I mean, I can hardly believe it since this show can't do an arc outside of the main story to save its life, but it should be worth at least seeing what it's all about.

It should also be worth noting that once this show is cancelled, we shouldn't expect another TMNT series for a good 8 or 9 (or, more likely, more) years. As much as I believe the show's gone through seasonal rot as well, I don't think it's gotten bad enough that we should call for its cancellation quite yet, since our boys will be off the air for awhile once this one ends.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 09:33 PM

Ciro said he wanted to make at least 5 seasons, which we're getting, not that he didn't want it to go on past that.

As I said, I expect a 7 season run. Most likely it'll get another 2-season renewal after Season 5 and then that will probably be the end.

Aaronardo 06-27-2016 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596196)
As I said, I expect a 7 season run. Most likely it'll get another 2-season renewal after Season 5 and then that will probably be the end.

I hope the show gets renewed for an 8th season just for the look on your face. :lol:

biganimefan 06-27-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo (Post 1596197)
I hope the show gets renewed for an 8th season just for the look on your face. :lol:

Cyber has mentioned in the past that he wanted this show to go on for at least 10 seasons and get 200+ episodes(not EXACTLY what he's said but pretty close). I actually would like for it to make that much.

Now...I LOVE the original series, and no it's not just the nostalgia factor. But, the Nick show does arguably deserve more of a run than the '87 show.

CyberCubed 06-27-2016 10:12 PM

Well when the Nick show first started it was very popular and I thought it would usher in a new wave of Turtlemania prompting a 10 season or 200 episode run....but now my expectations are in check.

I now expect a 7 season and 150 episode or so run. Which is still a very good, long and healthy run. The same as the 2k3 series got, 7 seasons, 156 episodes and a movie.

ABrown 06-28-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596165)
Shows in the same continuity aren't the same show. That's like saying all of Batman: TAS, Superman, Batman Beyond and Justice League are the same show when they're 4 different series all sharing one universe.

Technically you can say every TMNT cartoon is in continuity with each other now due to all the crossovers even though they're 3 separate shows.

Only if you consider the crossovers to be canon to the original series. As I've said before, it would have to be the same creators, like how you mentioned the DC Animated Universe shows, in order for me to consider it to be canon.

TMNTInsighter 06-28-2016 05:38 PM

Ciro said he wanted five seasons and he got them. I'll have to pull up the link again but he was content with five from the beginning and he got 'em.

CyberCubed 06-28-2016 06:47 PM

He wanted to make at least 5 seasons. You think if Nick renews the show for Season 6 or beyond Ciro is going to say, "Well I'm done, I don't want to work on the show past Season 5." Of course not.

7 seasons, you all heard it here first.

The Happy One 06-30-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter (Post 1596494)
Ciro said he wanted five seasons and he got them. I'll have to pull up the link again but he was content with five from the beginning and he got 'em.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1596505)
He wanted to make at least 5 seasons. You think if Nick renews the show for Season 6 or beyond Ciro is going to say, "Well I'm done, I don't want to work on the show past Season 5." Of course not.

7 seasons, you all heard it here first.

I'm gonna go with Cubed on this one. Ciro said he'd be fine- completely satisfied- with 5 seasons. But, let's get real here, if this show is bringing in the money we KNOW it's bringing in, well...who would want to give that up?

I mean, if it ain't broke don't fix it, right? Sure the show could be better plot-wise, but that doesn't matter if you're shooting out toys and bringing in enough mohey to keep it alive- which this show us definitely thriving in merchandise:lol: It wouldn't make sense for them to stop now.

CyberCubed 06-30-2016 04:09 PM

That's right, 7 seasons. Even if Ciro for some odd reason steps down, Brandon Auoman and the other writers would probably continue without him.

7 seasons, remember that, lucky number 7.

The Happy One 06-30-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1597076)
That's right, 7 seasons. Even if Ciro for some odd reason steps down, Brandon Auoman and the other writers would probably continue without him.

7 seasons, remember that, lucky number 7.

Never forget:D

Jephael 06-30-2016 09:40 PM

Be kinda funny if Ciro and Brandon were to both leave after season 5 but the series went on for another 3 years or so. I'd definitely like to do a comparison between this show and Smallville if that were to happen since that show's creators left prematurely.

CyberCubed 06-30-2016 10:02 PM

Maybe the show will be revamped for its last 2 seasons. Similar to the original cartoon's "Red sky era" and Fast Forward/BTTS for the 2k3 series.

For some reason TMNT cartoons always go through radical changes in their final seasons. If it happens to the Nick cartoon as well I wouldn't be surprised.

Jephael 06-30-2016 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1597170)
Maybe the show will be revamped for its last 2 seasons. Similar to the original cartoon's "Red sky era" and Fast Forward/BTTS for the 2k3 series.

For some reason TMNT cartoons always go through radical changes in their final seasons. If it happens to the Nick cartoon as well I wouldn't be surprised.

You make a good point there. Only thing is this time around they're using CGI models, which don't change as drastically as 2-D animation did back in the day.


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