Turkey under Martial Law
 

July is only half over, and it's easily the most brutal Sumer we've had in years.

I'm genuinely afraid of where all of this is headed.

Turn on CNN this is crazy!!!!!

Wow... scary. If we could just get some insane news from our friends in North Korea, I'd probably lose all my hair.

CNN's Turkey was just taken over by Turkish military.

And on top of that Russia is mobilizing for war, with the west being concerned:

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07...ates-US-Crimea

This **** is scary. WW3 is coming.

People thought 9/11 was the brink of WW3, it didn't happen then, it won't happen now.

The only thing that could really kickstart it is North Korea doing something really stupid and then Russia, China and all of Europe getting involved. But I doubt that.

It won't happen.

Geez. First Paris is attacked again, now this. Scary stuff. :(

From what I've seen, this is happening because the military got sick of how regressive their president had been in recent years. It's still scary, and the coup appears to have failed.

Ut was a faction within the military that attempted and ultimately failed to remove the president. Soldiers are currently being charged with treason and arrested.

Erdogan is a clown, so him being gone would be better for everyone.

Apparently the coup failed and the soldiers turned themselves in. Many suspect they'll be charged with treason and either executed or locked in jail for who knows how long. Feel sorry for them, they're as good as dead.

Erdogan called for his Islamic supporters to take to the streets and stop the Military from the Coup.

And the US publicly backed him. That's crazy. The Turkish Military is there to protect democracy, and stop theocratic/autocratic rulers.

I know it's more complicated, but ... is it?

So much turmoil derived from a fundamental lack of education.

Totalitarians love the poorly educated...

Its not complicated at all. The US supports him because he was democratically elected by the people. The coup failed because he called on the public who elected him to take to the street and show the lower level military who were doing the coup who they wanted. And they did. Its amazing really. The coup was anti-democratically elected leader. The people did their will.

Fwiw, the higher level military leaders did not apparently support this coup.

The Turkish president is an interesting fellow, but he is popular with Turks and especially everyday blue collar Turks. I see no confusion as to why the population came out for him.


ETA: The likely reason for the coup is that followers of a prominent Thelogian wanted his followers to overthrow the more secular current government. This guy wanted stricter following of Islam in the country. Originally his people supported the president, but now they do not.

Dude lives in Pennsylvania.

If you look at history, having an uprising or coup attempt in Turkey is de riguer every 10-15 years anyhow...

Didn't Egypt have a similar issue a few years back?

Is thanksgiving over?:cry:

Yes, and its not the end of the world. Coups happen alot around the world. They don't end in ww3,4,5,6....

And Russia is not a problem,whoever said that up there. Or China, or any other normal country. No one is going to start a world war because we all know how devastating that would be to all involved. Including us.

Seriously the only real scary country out there is North Korea because they are delusional and don't seem to follow conventional thinking and behavior. KJFatty has nukes that can reach the US, but I'd wager China will eventually put them in their place because they would prefer we not come blow up a country on their border.

I wish China and South Korea would mop the floor with them.

So, none of the news outlets got the story right?

NK really seems like they're capable of starting a war. Would they actually do it? Who knows. But that doesn't stop Cartman from making threats every 3 months.

They're totally capable of starting a war. The problem is they'd end up being the biggest losers.

Russia's a normal country now? :o

Yes and winter is coming.

The total is 194 dead, 1,195 injured according to CNN.

What a waste of life. Just think nearly 200 people dead and over 1,000 injured....for what? The coup failed. People literally threw away their lives.

Its hard to believe we're in the modern year of 2016 and this happens. You'd think we're back in the early 1900's or something.

Why do people say this? The year 1350 was a pretty modern year back in 1350. I seriously don't understand how the current year being the current year makes people shocked when events like this happen. Coups have happened throughout human history all the time, regardless of what year it was or how "modern" of a year it was. Every new year is modern.

So, just because its 2016 there should be no coup? Suppose a dictatorship was overthrown by the people. Thats a coup. Is it bad that people want their will done? Just because we live in a stable country doesn't mean they all are.

Those people that did the coup were doing what they thought were right. The Turks didn't agree with them.

We once had our own coup. Two actually. Just because our last one was in the 1850s doesn't mean another one couldn't happen some day if peopke here were angry enough.

Because nowadays people are a lot more informed about the world due to the internet and the better education of the world in general. Hundreds of years ago people had no idea what was going on outside their country and the world was essentially isolated as a whole.

Even in the 1900's-1950's whatever news was spread by propaganda newspapers and the radio. This is largely why World War I and II happened. Nobody had any idea what the hell was going on. This is also why the Cold War almost led to nuclear war in the 60's too.

We're now in the age of the internet and communication. Not only do countries know what other countries are doing, all the common folk like you and me have the internet to read about this stuff and ongoing events as its happening...like we're doing right now for this matter at hand.

I feel this is all due to the older 50-60+ year old crowd still in charge of countries. Once they all die off in the next decades or so and get replaced by the younger crowd growing up in the modern world things will be a lot different. Even the fat cats son in North Korea aren't stupid enough to start at war because he's not living in the past like his father was.

This is the modern year. Its 2016 not 1916.

There will always be good and bad leaders. Just like there will always be cruel leaders.

The internet is a great invention, yes, but you're giving it way too much credit. It's making things more easily accessible, but not necessarily making the world a better place. Lots of misinformation spreads throughout the internet, and just because you can access a lot of great data on it, that doesn't mean a lot of people do it.

Facebook and Twitter were shut down during the coup.

Fun fact: Turkey blocked access to facebook, twitter and youtube from their country as their coup was going on.

They know good and well people from their country and outside find this deplorable but they try to silence it. The internet is a perfect example of how the world being connected globally could put an end to this stuff.

These old fogey 50-60 year old dictators must go and be replaced by millennials growing up in the modern world. Its 2016 not 1816.

It also makes it easier for authoritarian leaders to monitor what their citizens are doing. You make it sound like those dictators don't have people working under them that know how to use the internet.

If all the world leaders were millennials the world would be a much safer place today. These old fogey's must go.

You mean if all leaders were like you? You have to be joking. The world would be in an awful position if its leaders were as informed and intelligent and ambitious as you.

Lots of millennials spend most of their time staring at the computer screen, and then turning around and staring at the TV, and being hooked into their cell phones any remaining time. That's why people like you are so shocked when something happens in the real world. They can't understand something that 's happening that doesn't relate to the television.

I'm talking about millennials who go into politics of course, what do you think the next wave of politicians for the next 50 years will be? All the current ones will be dead of old age and the new younger generation will be the current 25-30 year old adults who become the next world leaders.

Millennials want world peace because we've grown up in the modern world where racism, homophobia, and religious persecution is (mostly) a thing of the past besides close-minded bigots. We are the new age. It is all these 50+ year old world leaders who grew up in olden times where this stuff was rampant that they are stuck in their old world views.

Out with the old, in with the new I always say. Bring in some new young blood, and put these old disgruntled politicians out to pasture where they belong. Its 2016 not 1916.

Sounds quite well in theory, but I guess the next wave of politicians will be pupils of "the old". And the really powerful on earth will know how to prevent a takeover of the Millennials...

This is just your typical "my generation is better than yours!" cliché.

No sh!t, Sherlock.
Here's the nice thing about democracies: you have the option to vote for young people when they run for office. So instead of proposing a goofy Cubed New World Order run by the hip and young, try making it to the voting booth next time.