Batman and Harley
 

http://www.superherohype.com/news/37...d-films-coming

And if KJ is anything to go by, they'll be yapping about it for all the wrong reasons

Bruce Timm with no filter is no better than Miller.

We already got a Harley Quinn sex scene in Assault on Arkham.

One shudders to think what we're going to get here, especially after the atrocity of "Killing Joke"...

Fingers cross it could turn out well. Maybe they can bring Paul Dini aboard to collaborate.

Harley screwing Batman confirmed.

*shudders*

Anticipation of this project really revs up my Harley, if you know what mean.

Wish they'd remaster TAS for blu ray.

Why not. BatMAN can go thrown the entire ladies of Gotham.

First Catwoman in the comics, I can buy that, they always had a thing for each other, and really try there best to lived around it.

Batgirl in the new movie. And now Harley, he just needs to work on Ivy, and why stop in Gotham? If he can have Batgirl, Superman's home town is not that far away, so he can stop on by and get Supergirl. lol.

Not sure if CyberCubed would hate this or be all over it.

We can only pray that Paul Dini comes on board that way he can make sure his character is properly portrayed.

Also it makes me wonder how the killing joke would have been portrayed if Paul Dini got the nod instead of Bruce Timm.

What's going on here? Why is everybody all angry?

Bruce Timm's having a mid-life crisis.

How's that?

Watch his latest film, "Bruce and Babs Make A Porno"

Wtf dude. Grow up. Sex happens.

So it's okay if they imply rape, but not okay to imply consensual sex?

Is this the state of the world? How ****ing Puritanical are you boys?

Babs is depleted of all agency in KJ. Sex is'nt the issue dingbat.

It seems like it is though. Explain the issue, dick head.

Harley Quinn was a pretty neat character before she went mainstream... I guess this'll just be her in another skimpy outfit, just like in Suicide Squad.

Timm thinks a remaster would take away from the gritty look of the series, and I agree.

Just check out the KJ thread, man. It all unfolds there, go back some pages.

Simple; everyone is angry because a beloved character has been reduced to a thing, the object of pursuit, conquest, and vengeance. It fails the character and accomplishes the opposite of what the creators initially claimed to desire for this character's expanded role in the story.

Since when did Batman have a thing with Batgirl? I prefer the pupil-master relationship.
And, what is it with the movie "Bruce and Babs" now?

The Bruce/Babs thing is wrong, that's what makes it interesting. TKJ was always a bad idea to adapt since it's difficult to. This is far from the most "perverted" thing they've done, that's probably the Year One Catwoman short.

The way they went about it is'nt interesting, it's offensive.

KJ was a bad idea period.

Great(sarcasm). I'm never gonna see Barbara in the same way again.

I don't see it. People in close proximity have sex. It's normal. She's not a "thing" for wanting to **** the Batman. It might be a little Lolita ish, but that's it.

Batman, in th clip, is clearly walled up, thinking he did something wrong, crossed a line. You could argue he took advantage. It tarnishes Bruce a bit, if anything.

It just adds complexity, making them more human.

It doesn't change anything, really, unless you want it to. There's still a tragic fate, made a little more tenuous by the broken trust between Bruce And Babs.

Once again, we see Bruce isn't all that different than Joker...and maybe that's the point.

I think you and I have a very different idea of what "interesting" is.

From the clips were seeing, it looks like its far from being anything of worth value. Poorly put together, and possibly inconsiderate towards woman. How many female characters are going to appear in this film? The addition of Bats and Babs degrading relationship adds no value to the story, and depicts woman in a poor light.

If Alan Moore hated this story right from the get go, and the only worth while thing that came out of it was Oracle I can't say I find much interest coming from this. This story was already highly debated for its content now there just adding insult to injury.

This was looking interesting before the unneeded plots. Having Hammil and Conroy back was exciting but now I'm just disappointed with all this new info.

When I'm talking about the Bruce/Babs relationship I'm talking about the DCAU, I haven't seen TKJ yet and neither has anyone yet to be able to judge. It's like Ghostbusters where everyone damns something before it comes out and they watch it which apparently is an alright movie and internet fanboys overreacted like the sheep that they are.

I can only speak for the comic story since none of us have watched the movie. Batgirl was a character DC wasn't using and there were no plans for her, this happens all the time and it's irrelevant that she's a girl. The point of the story was never Barbara just for something tragic to happen to both Batman and Jim Gordon and show how one bad day can change someones life which is what happened to the Joker since this is basically his story. I never thought Joker raped Barbara, she took naked pictures to show how he could do anything he wanted. The aftermath to this story is awesome, I love Oracle and how many wheelchair heroes do we really have?

Does Barbara having sex with Batman change the story? Not really, things like this happen in real life. Probably not necessary but TKJ is a very short story that doesn't translate very well to a movie so more needs to be added. Year One was also very short so we had a 30 minute sequel with Catwoman where she goes to a Strip Club and strips, it wasn't necessary to the story but it's interesting to see YO catwoman who only gets a short cameo in the actual story.

The reason people hate this idea is a combination of SJW sticking their head were they don't belong and overanalyzing sh-t that doesn't fit their programmed view of what life is and fanboys who don't like status quo change and don't want "their" batman being tainted by an interesting plot point or because they don't want their "shippings" ruined whether it's "Babs/Dick" or "Bat/Catwoman". People hated Starfire for those same reasons and there was all this hate just for that.

Its not about Batman, its about the writers using him as their self insert character.

The writers are 40-50+ year old disgruntled adults who have likely been married to the same woman for years or divorced for years and are bored with their old wives. So they dream of screwing younger women and they self-insert themselves into Bruce and have him have sex with a 20 something year old Barbara.

They're old men and they aren't getting enough hanky panky at home so they fantasize themselves as Bruce as their self insert character and make their fanfiction ships into reality.

That is the most ridiculous assumption anyone could possible make.

Don't just assume stuff about a person's private life just because you're not a fan of their work.

Dude, the whole thing leaked yesterday. I watched it already.

GhostBusters was a crap movie, and I'm no sheep. The real flock are all the people that are only saying it's decent to avoid the wrath of the Kitchen Dwellers.

All of this was a waste of time because it wasn't in the comic to begin with. There didn't need be any kind of relationship there. From what I heard, the whole scene with Batman and Batgirl fighting crime before the tragedy went on for too long. They didn't need to add all this BS. Just make a short scene of Batgirl beating up some bad guys so people know she's Batgirl, and then start the comic proper. It looks like once the filler crap is out of the way, everything is done almost panel per panel. It's a shame they screwed up on the filler parts because the rest of the movie seems to be 100% faithful to the comic.

I mean TKJ from Batman's perspective was about him wondering how the final battle between him and the Joker will finally end. It had nothing to do with him banging Babs and feeling awkward about it.

Chef Ramsay?

I just read that Barbara's sole reason for becoming Batgirl was to "bang" Batman, if that really is true and not something taking out of context then yeah I'd have a problem. If it's more of a Tim Drake type of origin then it wouldn't be so bad, I'll really have to see it before I judge it, I still think it's the usual overreaction from the internet about nothing since oddly enough that is what hasn't really been mentioned in articles/forum posts that part that does mess her character up and yet no one is talking about it?

Well sorry I don't keep up with the latest pirate releases. But based on the other comment acting like somehow the new Ghostbusters has some kind of sway to get people to review it well and all of you were "right all along" doesn't help me see your point.

It's an adaptation, things are changed for better or worse. I would've wanted a Batgirl Year One adaptation, it could've fit in 30 mins but I'm not knocking this until I see it especially isnce internet nerd can be so fickle.

No way -- Jamie Oliver. Ramsay's all bluster. Oliver may come across gentle as can be, but I hear he'll get inventive with a vegetable peeler if anyone besmirches the good name of Kate McKinnon.

But they didn't need to be. All they needed to do was have Batgirl beat up some crooks, with or without Batman, and then come home to reveal to the audience that she's Gordon's daughter and that he has no idea she's a crimefighter. Then start the comic proper. I heard the padding was to make people know who she was since the comic flat out starts with Joker shooting her without ever wearing the costume throughout the whole story. That's all we needed. A short intro. Then start the comic proper. We didn't need an extra 'things are awkward now because we had sex' subplot between Batman and Batgirl that didn't exist in the original story.

Totally agree with the user above me.
See, I appreciate the character a lot. Now, such a scandal happens! It's silly.

Batman having sex with Harley will be the biggest jump the shark moment in Batman history. Bruce Timm needs to retire if this is what he is planning.

He really needs to stop making his fantasies a reality.

Still struggling to figure out what exactly a kitchen dweller is.

You may be right but it's still a hilariously big leap to make with no evidence other than his age.
Nailed it.

(and I personally don't even mind the sex angle.)

Besides the whole Bruce/Babara thing I thought it was pretty awesome. Or was that the reason you didn't like it? I can understand that. What were WB thinking when they threw that in?

That is my reason. I've watched the various clips to see for myself, but on principle, I'm not financially supporting this.