Man of Steel 2
 

This will make Leo656 very happy and Commenter 42 very unhappy. There will be fist pumps and cries of joy from one man, and howls of outrage and gnashing of teeth from the other.

http://batman-news.com/2016/08/08/wa...an-of-steel-2/

Me? Give me a Lex Luthor that isn't Jesse Eisenberg (or at least drastically change that twitchy twerp's performance) and more Cavill and Adams, and I'll be happy.

If WB has already jumped the gun and done Doomsday, what do they follow up with? The Superman Clone Saga (sorry, I don't remember the story arc's actual title)? Parasite? Bring in a better Supergirl (move over, Melissa)? Mongol? Metallo?

Personally, I'm betting the Superman clones... Superboy/girl, Cyborg Superman, Eradicator, Steel. I guess we'll have to see how Justice League handles bringing him back.

I find it bizarre after all this time Brainiac has never been done in live-action. He's one of the most important villains.

I KNEW I WAS FORGETTING ONE OF HIS ENEMIES!

Yup, the movie will be Brainiac. No doubt about it.

DC is not afraid :)

Actually this makes me happy. Snyder's barely treading water, and they just tosd him a cement block.

I'm pretty sure, agree or disagree, that Snyder won't be involved. At best, a minimalized presence.

WB wants/needs Superman to make bank, so they're going to pull out all the stops.

Lol, can we not talk about Leo?

If they could start with putting Superman in the film, that would work.
They would need to start from scratch. Geoff Johns is an ass hat though.

There's no hope. #SuprmanDiedwithReeve.

Honest question coming up, wanting to know your POV better.

You don't like the Man of Steel movie. How does that death of Zod play into your opinion?

If you disapprove, how then do you feel about Reeves' Superman killing Zod?

I loved everything about Reeve. How his superman was optimistic, hopeful and kind, everything superman was supposed to be. I don't hate man of steel absolutely, but I think Reeve was the absolute best and his movie is my favourite superhero movie of all time. I'd take his superman over the brooding (coughbatmancough) Superman in man of steel anyday.

Heck, I'm listening to his theme as I work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RotVp2ezfs

There's a deleted scene in Donner's Superman II which showed Zod and company survived.

Was never used, but it's available on the DVDs

"Have fun storming the castle boys!"
"Do you think it'll work?"
"It would take a miracle."

It's not the killing of Zod. It's not Superman killing, I'm not that guy - I don't think he really needed to, but it didn't break the movie for me. That happened about 5 minutes in. As soon as I saw etch-a-sketch land, I knew it was going to be a tough watch. :lol:

My issue is the view of the character as outcast, moody, awkward, brooding...
'78 took the high road all the time. He was a better person. He put others first.

Snyders Superman isn't super. Just a guy, and not a likable one. Lot's of characters you can do that with, not Supes.

That's just a taste of my gripes. If anything, Snyder made a movie about Bizarro.

I hope Man of Steel 2 will have Supergirl in it, the prequel comic told Kara's origin, she was the one who stepped out of that cryochamber, when Superman went into the ship and for a brief moment, sees one that was opened.

Great, now y'all just spoiled that Superman will get revived in DCEU!

Yep. It's pretty pathetic, even factoring in the Reeve movies... his villains were Lex, then Zod, then Lex again in Returns, then Zod again in Man of Steel, and Lex again in BvS coupled with Zod's body again. How sad is that? Can we get new villains, please?

Mongul and Warworld would rock, though it might be thematically too similar to what they're probably planning with Darkseid and Apokalips. Brainiac is a no-brainer. I thought Man of Steel was foreshadowing him with the Codex stuff but they pissed it off to do a Dark Knight Returns/Death of Superman jambalaya in DC Cinematic Universe movie #2.

ugghhh
 

the first movie was DREADFUL!!! Wow, i don't intend on seeing this but if Cyborg Superman was the villain i'd consider it.

I will assume Darkseid is reserved for Justice League. What about Brainiac? He could reverse the stance the public took as a result of Zod. During the chaos Lex could be creating another monster,but this time a Superman he can control which will result in Bizarro and if the plot merits it Superboy can enter as the perfected clone while Bizarro could be from dated dna and Superboy a touch of Luthor dna to humanize the Kryptonian clone.

They've bungled everything. Half of his supporting cast is already dead. Snyder will surely kill some more in JL.

You know who might make a good Superman film? Cameron.

Hear me out.

Think about the sci-fi of Superman. It's the part they rarely explore. Think about the menagerie of aliens. Would be interesting. Superman off-world.

I'd say Abrams, given what he's done for Star wars and Star Trek, but he already had a shot, and his ideas were a little meh.
Maybe he's grown.

So dumb. They actually go to the trouble of doing the Death of Superman in DC Cinematic Universe Movie #2, and they can't even make it to the end of the movie without spoiling his resurrection.

What, you mean this?

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The best thing he did for Star Trek was having mostly nothing to do with the latest one. And TFA was pretty much just a study in how to "lift" a movie with only a slight coating of anything original.

I don't like Superman [which probably makes my liking of Man of Steel incredibly appropriate because it was his personality that I liked] but I would be all over this.

Both massive successes.

I don't care that he effectively lifted TFA. It makes the most sense. Life is circular, SW is a circular story. The next gen should be repeating the path of the last, with a twist. The film was pretty great. Lucas tried to give fans something completely different with the prequels, and the results were a disaster.

for Star Trek, he did the same. Most people can't endure the original Trek series...it's tedious. TNG is easier to fun, Enterprise is impossible.

He opened it up, and cast well. He has a knack for getting the right people on board. 2009 was also the first time I felt VFX offered a space that reflected the cool Sci-fi of the 50's and 60's... it looked like it had been ripped from the mind of Asimov or Phillip K. Dick.
Production design is very important to me though... often more than the director, and sometimes even the story.

Have you ever watched Superman the movie, or Superman 2?

This version has already been ruined so much that it would take a great writer/director for me to get excited about this. Please don't continue trying to deconstruct Superman. Also, please don't kill main characters by shooting them in the head in a throwaway scene because you think it's "fun". Keep The ****** version of Lex away from this too.

I'm having trouble remembering them. If I've watched them, it was when I was way younger. I remember Superman Returns, though, and I remembered not liking it.

Superman Returns was terrible, terrible and more terrible. It was horrible. bland. Yuck.

If you get around to it, try Superman the movie.

I go by C42s word. Superman 1978 is my favourite superhero film of all time and of my favourite films in general.

I like MOS and BVS as well as the Donner movies, but Returns is the worst to me. Superman '78 is a little dated but still the best. Reeve's acting as both Superman and Kent is absolutely amazing. You really think it's a different person when he puts on the glasses.

I don't think Returns should be in the DVD/Blu ray sets with the older Reeve films...even Superman IV deserves better.

If Synder is not involved with this then I have some hope for this. I was recently given a collection of Superman: The Man of Tomorrow comics and I have to say, these are a really enjoyable read. It makes me love Superman more than I already have. What happened DC? This was your golden boy up until the mid 2000s.:tcry:

Is there anybody on this forum that prefers Superman over Batman?

Me. Batman undoubtedly has a better rogues gallery and some great allies too, but I much prefer Superman as a character and all of the mythology that comes with him.

Yup, it was really bland and I think I even fell asleep the first time.

I'll give Superman the movie a shot, though. My dad really enjoys it so next time he's complaining about there not being anything on TV again, hopefully I'll remember this and bring it up.

Superman 1 and 2 were fine for their time, but no, they haven't held up well at all. Christopher Reeve's performance is always stellar... but just about everything else is pretty dodgy and camp after the movie leaves Smallville. In recent years I've tried to have several people who have never seen any of the Reeve Superman movies sit down and watch them with me (they kind of are "must see" movies in terms of the historical significance of them) and it's always a struggle.

With the right plot and writer, I think Superman is the best character in mainstream comics.

One of the things I liked about MOS was being able to see him as that kind hearted, relatable Kansas kid. Like that scene when
he goes to visit Martha and throws back a beer. Sure, he has godlike powers and stuff, but at the same time there is a recognizable emotional core to him.

As it says in the John Byrne comics from the 80s, being from Krypton gives him his powers, but the Earth and her people are what make him human.

It's a feel good film. It DOES hold up, unless you want to nitpick effects, but that would be like chastising the work of Ray Harryhausen, despite being a pioneer.

If you want a punchy punch though, this ain't it.

Superman done right, is the best, no contest.
He's been gone for a long time.

I'm not too concerned with that, honestly. My parents have recently taken to watching old Star Treks and I make it through those just fine. Apparently that's pretty difficult to do. :lol:

You should be fine then. :lol::lol::lol:

Reeve just is Superman. That's the problem, really. Cavill doesn't Superman well, at all. You need an actor that can pull it off; find that and the rest will almost take care of itself.

Oh, that does remind me of my shallow-ness showing whenever I don't want it to and I'll admit I've always found Superman ugly until Man of Steel. whoops please don't put this one on my permanent record

Can we have this guy be the villain for the sequel if nobody wants Lex or Zod?

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070424103849

Have to disagree with you, sir. Cavill Supermans just fine. The points where he's allowed to full-on be Superman, they work fantastically. Granted, he doesn't become a fully formed Superman until the end of Man of Steel... and then, granted again, until he remembers he already became Superman at the end of the last movie near the end of BvS again.

Imagine Cavill in just about any scene back in Superman: The Motionless Picture, and it'd work just fine. Possibly better, no disrespect to Reeve.