TMNT Universe #1 Preview & Discussion
 

Released: 31/24/16.
Preview tomorrow.

First 3 pages:

is this from iTunes again? these damn small ass pictures, they might as well not put them out until they get the full size images. oh well. super stoked for TMNTU!

All right! Detective Lewis in the house!

Looks like she's not getting along with Bishop... :tgrin:

Seems like our new scorpion mutant is a girl.

Glad to finally get around to Bishop, though. With all that talk about protecting the Earth, it's almost kind of funny he never seemed to catch on to what Krang was up to...as far as we know, at least.

lmao at Mikey and Donnie's weapon discussion :lol:

Where are these posted??

Those pages are so small, I can't even read the word bubbles. The art looks good so far.

I took these pages here.:D

I can't read it either, and honestly, I don't care. I'll get it in full res tomorrow... in matters such as these, I can be patient.

Paul, this is gonna kick so much shell. I haven't been this excited since... well, Leatherhead. And Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy everything. And Issue #50. And Mikey with the Mutanimals.

Okay, you guys keep knocking it out of the park, but still... SUPER HYPED for Bishop, Baxter, and all this goodness.

The scorpion mutant being a female intrigues me. I've been waiting for Bishop for so long, I just hope he's not a one-note anti-mutant xenophobe (mutophobe?) in the vein of several human antagonists for the X-Men over the years, and actually exhibits other traits and even has the potential to become an unlikely ally to the Turtles further down the line, like in the 2003 cartoon.

I'm sure IDW won't let us down, it's the just the pre-release trepidation speaking. 8)

Considering IDW took the very long route with Old Hob, I'm not worried. He could be considered a one-note simple "revenge" character in the beginning, but he's grown to be, probably, THE standout original character from IDW TMNT.

The standout original character, apart from Alopex, who I personally have seen quite a lot more fanart (and shipping) of? But in terms of character and motivation, yeah, Hob does a bit of a better job of being captivating and rounded. Alopex isn't really all that special to me personally, if only because she's a character type I've seen before. Granted, she and Hob share some traits, but Hob is more interesting with what he does with them.

It certainly seems like Bishop will be similar to his original character, having been abducted by aliens in the 1800's and then returned to an unfamiliar time. It's just a matter of which aliens. Utroms almost work, but my guess is that they went into stasis in the late 1700's (American Revolution-ish time), and Bishop was abducted in 1812 in his original incarnation. But hey...they had to have learned English from somewhere, why not him?

Okay, Deviant-Art shippers SHOULD NOT be taken as experts on standout characters. :tlol:

Exactly my point :P . She may be more popular (because she's a cute fluffy fox with face paint and baggage?), but Hob is more standout because he fits in a little better overall with what is traditionally "darker" TMNT. He's not made to be cutesy shipping material, and doesn't get stuck in such situations either.

...said I while making mountains out of Ma'riell predicting Ch'rell's reaction to Krang being imprisoned...

Alopex is also rather similar to Ninjara from the Archie comics. Having another rogue fox character who starts off as an assassin but then befriends the Turtles and gets romantically interested in Raphael is something we've seen before in the 90's.

Alopex strikes me as the kind of character who would be popular with the same folks who write self insert Sonic fanfic. I have no doubt there is plenty of fan art of her on the net. Hob is the character who will probably appear in future TMNT universes though... he's the Magneto character who was missing from the mythology before IDW.

Yeah there's always one or two stand-out characters created for each universe after Mirage that always become mainstays in future incarnations:

- Krang/Bebop/Rocksteady from Fred Wolf

- Hun and Bishop from 4kids

- Armaggon from Archie


Now from IDW its Old Hob, and I suppose from Nick it'll probably be Tiger Claw and Fishface. I'm betting future incarnations will use these characters too.

While he is not as stand-out as Hob, I really hope that Harold become a mainstay in future incarnations. I think he is my favorite IDW addition to the turtles universe because he allows Donatello to be much more realistic regarding is tech capacity while keeping the science-fiction gadgets possible for them.

I also believe, even if she is from 4kids, that IDW turn Angel into a mainstay. At least, I would be disappointed if she does not show up in future incarnations.

I like Angel and Harold a lot, but so far, I don't really seem them as inevitably breaking out beyond IDW. I still see them as "niche."

I would have said Kitsune too, but then Nick is using Shinigami who is a somewhat similar character. A lot of the other characters IDW uses are already established characters from past universes.

Is there a karger version available of the preview? I cant read any of the dialog or boxes.

Is Bishop always displaced out-of-time, in all the TMNT incarnations he's appeared in?

Well considering the 2k3 one is the original one, and Nick's Bishop is an Utrom, I'd say yes. Bishop has always existed for hundreds of years.

I wouldn't be surprised if they set Bishop's story beginning earlier so he would know the Utroms as his abductors. Maybe as one of the "Knock knock, it's Europe" visitors of Japan in the 1540's. Or even the 1600's, around the time Shredder and the Hamatos would have been alive.

And since his longevity would have been affected, he could have been dropped back on Earth when right when sh*t started collapsing on Utrominion (late 1700's?). Which he would have some idea of what was going on.

Of course, there's another viable alien that could take Bishop in later years, but I'm not entirely sure if that would be their thing. The Triceratons.
Who would certainly be a different kind of horrifying for someone living before dinosaurs had even been properly documented. But, I'm not so sure they would have been as interested in scientific endeavors as the Utroms were, much less messing around with a singular human. Sure, we might question if the IDW Utroms have the same moral code of keeping low-impact as the Mirage, but considering what they were already doing with dinosaurs and to their own planet (granted, that was mostly Quanin), I wouldn't put it past them to abduct a human and displace it.

oh. I always thought Bishop was a much more down-to-earth guy, just a g-man who worked his way up through various intelligence agencies until he got to what is basically the TMNT version of the Men in Black

Triceratons are mutants in IDW, though.

Bishop was loosely based on the Volume 2 story arc from Mirage about Darpa. Except he's a new character because Volume 2 didn't have any main guy running the place.

They're mutants and aliens :P

technically, the one planet they're not aliens on is earth

I'd say after x million years, their citizenship has expired lol

Full preview!

I'm not gonna lie. I really REALLY hate Kevin Eastman's writing. Not expecting to be impressed by the backup.

But TMNT Universe is off to an AWESOME start.

"Don't forget the chain, bro."

And...

I know, I was assuming that


I think you're right on the Leo theory. Ugh. UGH. I'm saying it again: I hate Eastman's writing.

This looks awesome, so glad IDW made a companion series

I don't see the need for spoilers in a preview thread, so I'm just gonna say what I saw, if anyone wants to skip through my post do it now.

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Anyway I'm really glad that this isn't just a Bishop story but they're also using many other characters like Detective Lewis and now Null. Its a real nice way to tie everything together and bring back another old villain in the process.

With the main ongoing focusing on Kitsune/Rat King/Pantheon mainly and the Street Phantoms/Darius, as well as the Utroms and Leatherhead on the side....we definitely needed another main series.

Bishop and Stockman and Null, oh hell yeah! :D Definitely worth the slog through 2-3 slow months to get here!

Oh man... Please let that Eastman backup be the debut of IDW Chrome Dome or some other meaningful character, not like that first annual full of dumb OC's that went nowhere... *groan* I swear you'll find a photo of the man if you look up "Dated" in the dictionary.

I think Kevin's backup will just be about fighting Foot or some other urban enemy.

Come on, guys, like I WASN'T going to take any opportunity to bring that one character back? :lol:

Very, very small role, though, be warned.