You guys think Shinigami will betray Karai
 

For me its like a 55 to 45 percent she will but maybe this show can surprise me

Nope. I'm not getting a vibe that she's out for herself at all. If anything Karai herself might fall too far down the foot path

No, if anything they'll reveal they're lesbian lovers.

ooo please no!

honestly, do you view every single best friend relationship as gay shipping?

You know even if that was the case it would still be better than any romantic relationship we have on this show

Nah. Not by her own choice at least. Personally I suspect something is going to happen that causes her to be used against Karai. Like Shini gets mind controlled and is made to hypnotize Karai and turn her bad again.

No, I think she's too loyal to Karai to betray her.

Cubed, what is it with you and lesbians?

In Cubed's defence, lesbians are awesome

She could be secretly working for shredder. He raised Karai after all and maybe he was picky about who she could be childhood friends with.

I Suppose Shinigami could be a foot spy who was raised alongside Karai in her childhood in the foot clan but later on used her relationship to get close with Karai in order to obey her master Shredder's orders and bring her back through hypnosis/manipulation.

I could see this happening too. I was just about to post something like this myself. I could see Shini being forced to go against Karai as a way of protecting her or something like that. It's like Raph kissing Antrax...before seeing it, I couldn't see him willingly doing something like that. To me, that's how I'm currently viewing Shini and am actually hoping for that kind of a twist.

Maybe? I could see it going either way, but I admit I was suspicious of her in City At War.

I'm inclined to guess no. She did seem suspicious in "City at War" (and seems to be a bit catty), but we were supposed to think of her as a new villain before revealing that she and Karai are planning to reform the Foot Clan and get rid of Shredder's operations.

"Broken Foot" did suggest that she has a materialistic streak, but it seemed to be played for laughs rather than as a warning sign. (She did have a point, too. A case could've been made that the money could've been used to fund their beat Shredder project.)

Also, in those two episodes, her fights with the Foot Clan members are a little too brutal to be faked (Tiger Claw slammed her into the roof in the first one).

For what it's worth, she's shown on the hero's side of the supporting character montage in the credits sequence. There have been exceptions to this before, but she seems to be presented as an ally character. I also wonder if they would've written in the idea of Mikey having a crush on her if it was planned that she was going to be a traitor.

This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

just because theres some art out there of that doesnt mean that everyone wants to see it

In all honesty, I really hope Shini doesn't turn on Karai and/or the TMNT. It'd be too predictable anyway if it were to happen.

Hey speak for yourself.

[Mod edit by Machias: Come on now... save this kind of image for the social groups...]

Greg, I have no issue with the idea of them being lesbians if that is the case. My issue is how Cubed is obsessed with the idea of it in a very perverted way. Honestly, I just don't get why guys are fascinated with that stuff. I'm certainly not attracted by the idea of two guys kissing. I just don't care about it.

Men are just hardwired to think that way. Its the chemical balance in our brains that make us attracted to the unobtainable.

No thanks.

Cubed, where are you finding this stuff? It's not on any of the usual places

The deviantart profile is literally on the fanart.

I don't think Shinigami will betray Karai. That'd only stray her from the right path, seeking revenge again and again. Plus, she's always been lied to, shini's betrayal would be overkill.

I know it's terrible, but I really would like to see that.

I hope not. I hate to see her turn out to be a spy sent by Shredder manipulating Karai into a trap.

yeah, i can definitely see that.

that subtle exchange of glances back and forth.

as if to say without saying "yo! waddap gurrrl?"

I don't know what to say to this, It's so off topic. This can't turn out like legend of kora, I was kind of surprised.

I'm a fan of Shini and Karai...doesn't mean I want to see stuff like this.

also it depends on WHAT fans we're talking about?

there are some coo-coo birds on DA illustrating ALL kinds of no good between the turtle brothers!!! :x

that turtle'cest stuff is just sickening!

must be something wrong with the water supply?

have to agree with you, its sad that tmnt is starting to sink to a show where half if not 75% of the fanart art and roughly around 65% of the fanfiction involves tcest or gay/lesbian pair-ups

I hate when people do that to a show. Perhaps they don't realize not everyone is like them, and also what they're doing diminishes the value of the show.

I'm sure to prove that karai isn't a villain and more of an antihero , Shinigami will eventually want to do something that doesn't agree with karai, hence they'll turn on each other.

It literally happens to every single show. It's not such a big deal if you just ignore it. TMNT is no different and it's not so special or sacred to escape that kind of perverted fan art. Name any show, any show at all, and there's art of it. Even Steven Universe. Even Adventure Time. Even the sisters from Frozen all up on each other. Hell, even Bugs Bunny.

From what I heard esurance even got rid of their Erin Esurance character when they found out they made porn of her. Blizzard is taking down porn hub videos because some people somehow ripped the character models right out of the game and made porn with them.

That **** is everywhere. It's nothing new. And tmnt isn't an exception. A Day in May. Just ignore it and don't let it affect your love for the show.

its still gross though

Starting? Unfortunately, this sort of degeneracy has been around for ages. It has gotten worse, though.

what gets me is they draw brother on brother!!!

incest is NOT best!!!!!!!!!! :x

I agree. I don't like it either. But the shows main characters are 4 brothers.... so who else did they have to work with. If April's sister wasn't such a minor forgettable character they'd probably draw april/Robyn stuff.

yeah, it's just plain nasty!

i'm guessing the people that draw this stuff don't get out much?

either that or they live near a toxic waste site?

Actually drawing smut nowadays is a good way to get money not only is the business thriving but actual great artist make fanatastic and detailed pictures.

As for incest don't search Loud House without the safe filter

i've actually never heard of Loud House. i'm guessing it's as bad (or worse) than some of the stuff on deviantart?

some of the people drawing the really REALLY depraved art are completely uninspired.
like they're doing it just to be shocking.