Dark April Thread
 

So this week's preview indicates without a doubt that Dark April is starting to rise.

I've saw it coming a mile away, especially after the way they ended the episode where she got the crystal in the first place.

I had a feeling that Mikey has been getting his bad vibes over April's crystal.

Dark April can certainly be interesting if handled properly. She'd honestly be the last possible character I'd have "go dark".


Ew. "Go dark"

Yeah, I'm actually a little surprised that the show decided to delay the payoff for so long (given the next clue was in "City at War," after the space arc was finished).

Which bad vibes? (It would be fitting that Mikey is the first one to guess that something's up, given his hunch in "Buried Secrets."

Why ew? I love "going dark"!

Headaches, nightmares and space stuff? So like Tetsuo Shima then?

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Why does this seem familiar?

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Mikey senses bad things, the mom thing from buried secrets and he sensed something was up with Slash and Dr Rockwell when they got the brain worm.

There was a moment In the episode The Evil of Dregg when Donnie got stung by an alien bug and April and Fugitoid took him back to the ship. It looked like Mikey was worried about Donnie and wanted to go with them but it may be because Mikey might be sensing something bad from April.

I had asked about the possibility of April going Dark before Riddle of the Ancient Aeons even aired and he was surprised I had that idea.

I had actually based the assumption of the possibility as Shredder up until the end of AE knew that April was a girl who was with the Turtles and being trained as a kunoichi for some reason.

The Shredder tends to pick his followers based on strength and powers. So kinda like having a deck of Magic/Yugioh cards and filling it all with powerful monsters and creatures and tossing away all the weaker creatures and magic cards because they aren't useful to you.

So I originally believed that he would learn April is a psychic and abduct her and brain wash her to serve him. After all Splinter and the Turtles took Karai from him, it would be a kunoichi for a kunoichi.


I agree there was a moment where he did look like he sensed something was wrong, but he wasn't sure what. And now he is really expressing that crystal April has may not be as helpful as they want to believe.

When she does go dark, I don't think the simple thing like just take it off her or smashing it is going to bring her back to normal.

Maybe they have to knock her unconscious and then they have to go into her mind to bring her back to normal.

I think Donnie telling her he loves her might help break her out even if doing so means losing her forever. I don't think they would do something BS like having Don inexplicably being able to perform the healing hands. After all there is a reason that Leo is the spiritual guy and Donnie isn't.

When it comes to Spiritual stuff
Mikey doesn't have the focus
Raph doesn't have the patience (Insecta Trifecta he practically equates Meditation with day dreaming)

Donnie has the patience and focus required but not the mind set. After all depending on the incarnation he either has a dubious view if not an out right bias against the concept of the unknown. I.E. if it can't be scientificly explained it does not exist.

This current version of Donnie however is less rigid in that regard and is open to the knowledge of unknown could offer as he has some offered knowledgable references to myth and religon a couple of times. And also he has helped April with her latent psychic abliities as a means of helping her see where her limits are and how to control them. But also as a way to study them and document his findings and observations.

If Leo or Splinter feel that is something that would be benifical, and offer to teach that technique then that could be a different story. But even then I think that might rub people the wrong way as it would make Don seem OP.

I can't wait to see Dark April, but I hope it last more then one episode.

Dark Raph.

Dark Leo.

Dark April.

Dark. Dark. Dark.

Maybe we'll get an action figure this time? I hope, I hope, I hope!

Okay, I couldn't tell if you were referring to a specific episode, or just some of Mikey's hunches in general.

To be fair, Dark Raph was 1 episode to showcase the mindcontrol, and Dark Leo was less 'Dark' so much as 'Briefly Rebellious'.


This is probably the first time we can honestly say that there seems to be a shift towards a character actually becoming a villain having been one of the good guys.


Having said that... There is also the point that the playmates preview toy range a while back had a 'Dark Donatello' shown around the same time the Super shredder figure was revealed. (I guess all the characters have to have a 'grimdark moment' Ninjapug ;) )

It does beg the question of whether that figure implies that Don could 'turn' at some point in future. If April goes insane with power, could she potentially use that power to try and coerce some of her closest allies to go with her? Maybe coercing Don into becoming a 'minion'?

Perhaps he takes the crystal from her and it overwhelms him? April takes it back in order to save him and its one step too much for her to control it anymore?

Ahhh possibilities :)

That seems to be the most sense, does seem like they foreshadowed it in that scene with the two of them in "Evil of Dregg".

Donnie going dark is a possibility. After all one of the most poignant things that Donnie has said about his relationship with his brothers is "No matter how much I train, I can't keep up with my brothers."

We have seen that when his brothers need him to do something and he can't deliver then he gets frustrated which has it's own set of negative emotion.

And with negative issues with his older brothers (unresolved tention with Leo that has existed since the end of season 2, picked on for years by Raph, rivalry with Casey, easily irritated by Mikey.) My friend, Dansleforet in her review of Mutant Gangland had even said that Donnie was almost Oroku Saki like.

To quote her review: Donatello is usually a level headed, fair turtle, so I wasn't expecting that sassy side of his. I would like to see that more often but against a villain next time rather than against his own brother. Now I want to mention, Don calling someone a baby...definately not the end of the world. However, just imagine a Donatello with unchecked agression and rage, he's basicly Oroku Saki then but with a vast intelect."


Someone also mentioned that Mutant gangland had a good genes vibe and that maybe something that also happens to get the Dark April situation started.

If Shredder is a mutant now, he is either going to want Retromutagen made so that he can return to human once Splinter, his sons, and their companions are dead and he has regained control of the city.

Or he is going to want to prevent the existance of a weapon that could forcibly return him to human again.

or both

In either situation Shredder is going to want to have Donatello captured or eliminated so they could get the key to create Retromutagen or they could prevent him from creating a weaponized version.

April could possibly choose to reveal that she is the Key to the retromutagen. She knows Donnie would be harmed either way, but she feels there is no other choice. And of course the Shredder being the doush bag he is, serously wounds or double mutates Don which causes April so much distress the crystal consumes her.

A lot of interesting ideas about where they are taking the Dark April storyline.

I don't know where the whole thing of "Dark April" is going to take us, but like they say in the Star Wars' universe, "I have a bad feeling about this".

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if April ends up becoming something really sinister and then the Turtles have to stop her. It would be ironic if April ends up becoming something like a copy of evil Karai with Shredder's attitude or something. Can you imagine April wearing a suit like Karai's?

I've seen some good fan art character concepts with her in Foot style armour, but I doubt they'd go that route as such - perhaps as gifted armour from Karai in a later confrontation with Shredder.

In regards Dark April corrupting Don though... well I managed to dig up the playmates preview pic from the 2016 toyfair;

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And he clearly isnt mutated more than normal - so I doubt we can expect any kind of 'good genes' style mutation. That said, it is a similar costume to 'Rebel Leo', save for the eye markings.

I did wonder if the crystal appeared on him or the space april figure but it seems not in both cases that I can see...

Either way, I'd put my money on April somehow corrupting Don in the near future - or the crystal doing so and April becoming corrupted in the process of freeing him.

but its just a theory :)

What're supposed to be those black lines in Donnie's plastron? :-?

There is that OT episode where Donnie does get electrocuted and then goes into a state of psychosis where he wants to murder the Shredder. And the reason that happened is the other Turtles were teasing him about relying on technical gimmickry rather his ninja skills. To which Donnie says "I can take the Shredder out on my own if I wanted to." And tries to prove he can.

This is likely going to be a more updated version...there is still a probability about the brain worms being used and Donnie being forced on the side of the Foot Clan for a brief time. As they say, the worst enemy you can have is the one you fail to see, and Donatello is practically invisible even to his brothers.

There is also the matter of Shinigami being a black sheep. I know people don't like the idea of her secretly working with the Shredder behind Karai's back. But I did find it rather convenient that Foot Clan knew where Karai would strike and happened to be there when she arrived. Now the Chemical Factory and the Foot-bot Factory they may have known that would be a likely point where Karai would strike. But the weapons cashe there is that one foot-bot evesdropping. But having an inside informant is also just as plausable.

Shini still strikes me as the sort of girl who would be friends with you for their own personal gain. And then once they no longer have need of you, they turn around and stab you in the back. Since her power is hypnosis she can easily use her power to force Donnie to see his brothers and companions as being against him.

Auman has also confirmed that yes the Triangle between Donnie/April/Casey is in fact, a mirror to Splinter's relationship to Tang Shen and Oroku Saki...just not as tragic. So there is also the Plausibly that the Shredder himself could poison Donnie's or Casey's minds about their relationship with April by saying they would regret losing her to their rival the rest of their lives.

April then could become corrupted attempting to return Donnie to the person she once knew.

The mind worms do seem a distinct possibility - particularly given it was Don himself who brought up the notion of them being potentially used on himself and his brothers.

Plus, the mind worm arc hasn't really ended as such yet (unless its been abandoned, which would be a shame), so it may well rear its ugly head again in future.

We know from Clash that psychic attacks can repel the worms out of someone - as Rockwell does it to Slash - so its possible April may use her abilities to free Don. Maybe that is what pushes her control of the crystal over the edge?

No idea @.@

Simple, it's...

when i brought the good genes thing back up, was thinking it would be more of a side effect from some drug don vizioso starts working toward

yeah, sure, he already has that nerve gas but it seems very short term when hes trying to wipe out mutants so why would he not decide to work on some toxin or serum that wipes them out at their source - the mutagen..... no idea if itll happen though


anyway, back on topic, on leos rogue outfit, he has fish hooks connecting to the seat belt buckle..... thought it was the same type of thing on donnie in that pic for a minute but it might be some paint like on his face

Would be cool to see a dark Don working for the foot. I'm sure Baxter would love that. :tlol:

It would be soooo badass if they called him Darkatello. So dark.

More like lord of the rings golem my precious April than a dark April.

I would expect her to bite off Don's finger should he ever go near her precious ever again lol.

I think April will not only be controlled by the crystal, but Shredder would take advantage of that by turning her to their side like... make her think she's his daughter or something.

That wouldn't be repetitive at all

What do you mean? I'm thinking since Shredder took Karai from Splinter and he got her back from Shredder, so why not turn April to the Foot's side?

You don't see how Shredder turning April to his side and making her think she is his daughter would be repetitive?

Well as his assassin would be nice. But making her think she's his daughter. Bad choice anyway.

Shredder would never brainwash April into thinking she's his daughter, but I could see him corrupting her to turn against the Turtles. We'll just have to see how far this arc goes and what comes of it.

Is anyone else questioning the fishnets on Donnie's thighs???

He's not the only turtle to wear fishnets, Raph wore them on his arms in Vision Quest/Dinosaur Seen in the Sewers and Leo also wore them on his arms in Broken Foot.

There is that doll sculpt of Dark Donatello and the armor he is wearing looks rather Foot Clanish. Shredder in this incarnation seems to view Donnie as pathetic and unworthy of death by his hand. But being the super shredder it is likely that retromutagen will have to be made and weaponized against him.

So plausible scenario

Shredder has fully become the Super Shredder.

Shredder: Stockman, be sure to prepare a way for me to become human once I have defeated Splinter, Karai, and their pathetic allies and have regained control of the city.

Stockman: um mazzter *buzz* there is a problem with that requezzt.

Shredder: I don't want excuses!

Stockmen: There is one component still needed....a key to making the retromutagen.

Bebop: What about those turtles and that retromutagen stuff?

Rocksteady: Shut it Conrad Bebop, you'll get us into the trouble.

Shredder:Turtles?! Retromutagen?! Why am I only now learning of this?!

Rocksteady: Well you see Master Shredder, the Turtles tried to use retromutagen on Karai to return her to the human form. It didn't work so we didn't think it was worth the mentioning.

The Brainworm thing hasn't been put to bed entirely and could still be brought in so Donnie could be subjected to a brainworm not to make him one of the Foot Clan, but for a crueler reason. To set things up so Donatello would give them the key to the retromutagen and so he could be killed off by his own brothers

That would work!