Have you accepted the show probably won't continue after season 5?
 

So the ratings for City at War were lower than the ratings of Eath's Last Stand, since show's been back for four weeks now each successive episode have dropped in the ratings and the last episode was a new low for the series. It's important to note that the ratings had pretty much flatlined at around 1.5 average a pretty long time ago and only now has a steady drop come, it may or may not rise slightly or it might drop further but the point is that the ratings stopped being decent long before City at War.

While some may try to defend the possibility of more seasons by claiming that the show is on iTunes or that toy sales is a bigger source of funding that TV ads, we really don't have the statistics to confirm these are in fact able to keep the show afloat for more seasons. I must also stress that if a sixth season is going to happen it would mostly likely have been confirmed two months ago or more, which it wasn't.

Ciro has always planned the series was going to end at season 5, it's got nothing to do with ratings.

You think this thread is a bit premature, neatoman? I don't know why you have an obsession with this show being canceled, since you've been going on about it for at least a year now.

In any case, stop bringing up ratings and itunes sales. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes in addition to merch and revenue that can prolong or end a show. We have no idea how much money Nick is making on TMNT as none of us are insiders.

I still fully expect the show to hit at least 7 seasons and I see no reason to think otherwise. Nick's not going to throw away the only major thing they make money on since with IDW they have to share the profits with the comics.

We all know this good and well.

He said he needed at least 5 to really tell the story he wanted to tell. But he's always said it could go on for much longer.

I'm fine with it ending though. It's been a good run. Just hope it doesn't affect IDW... issue 100 is currently projected for like December 2019 :lol:

IDW was doing just fine before the Nick show came out. I don't see that changing if it's gone.

It would be kind of ironic if the highly successful Nick cartoon turned out to be the shortest lived TMNT cartoon out there, wouldn't it?

2k3 series made 156 episodes and a movie. If the Nick cartoon can't even break 150 episodes then it might as well be a failure.

No I doubt it will effect IDW, Nick will probably have a new TMNT show by 2019.

That makes even less sense. Nick wouldn't cancel a cartoon just to make another one immediately after.

@Andrew

I don't expect sales to be comprised by anything Nick does with the show. I just meant corporate meddling. I could say them saying "well the Bay movies sucked, and our cartoon is toast... Let's mothball this crap for a few years and bring them back as wizards once Harry Potter is cool again". Or something equally insipid. Or worse.

Err what about Cartoon Network with Teen Titans and then that ended and they had Teen Titans Go later.

Nick could still do it, they could bring in a new crew members in to make a different version. TMNT will stay with Nick for a long time unless Viacom ends up selling TMNT or Nick.

Uh, you do realize there was a huge gap between those shows, right?

Teen Titans ended in 2006. Literally 10 years ago.

Ciro's original plan was for the series to last five seasons. And while there isn't any milestone moments such as the mutation days there has been a sense of time passing. Technically the Turtles would be 18 years of age at this point and next season they will be 19. Splinter has told the Turtles they are at a point where they are becoming adults.

If there is a pick up for further seasons that would be great...other wise we enjoy the series while it lasts. Let it have a rest, then if the producers want to have a spin-off series that follows the turtles that went into space, a version if the series following April's point of view as she journals about the Turtles and her relationship with them. Or possibly a continuation that follows the Turtles while they are in their twenties and thirties. There is still a lot of ground they could cover.

Yeah but they still had 2 Teen Titans cartoons.

But there's always new DC cartoons. Same reason there's always new Batman cartoons.

TMNT is owned by Nick, so it would look weird if they cancel their own show just to make another one. If they do that it'd likely be a huge gap of years.

Yeah and they are always on the same damn channel, Cartoon Network. it's the same with Marvel cartoons, they are always on the same channel which is Disney.

I know what you mean that it will be wired to have a new show straight after this one but it won't be straight after. It will more likely be between 5 years to 10 years until there's a new show.

Wonder if maybe they'll do a big drastic change like the original cartoon did with the red sky era or the 4Kids series did with Fast Forward.

Yeah, I'm ready. I'll always have my season 1 and some of the stand out episodes from later seasons. I appriciate the show for what is is, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not disapointed at what it became. I'm not gonna miss it that much, simply because there are better tmnt alternatives out there that I can watch.

Hopefully the next cartoon comes sooner than later.

Dunno if this thread is a pot shot at Cubed or not...

Unless information were provided on the various sources barring the Nielsen ratings and at one point, Max from IGN, it's not surprising if the show is going. However, if Ciro's vision was five seasons, by all means end it at the right time so it doesn't overstay it's welcome. Better to go out on a triumphant note than to either decline into mediocrity or wade into nothing. Honestly, the show is just not as enjoyable to me anymore; I still watch and support TMNT, but if you've seen my reviews, I don't entirely give praise out compared to when I first came here.

Anyways, Viacom has other properties they can play with for money, Spongebob being the big one for Nickelodeon to this day. TMNT probably just doesn't have the strength right now, as most merchandise at stores I see are recent Disney movies like Dory and Frozen, Marvel, Batman, video games, etc. The problem with Nick TMNT merchandise is it's the same promotional photo all over the map, such as the cereal and Danger of the Ooze. Try showing more creativity with your marketing, don't reuse the same images.

Whenever they feel like ending it, its' cool with me. There are other shows that I can watch. I just hope that they go out with a bang and not a whimper.

For some reason some people have a bizarre obsession with finding out when this show will end, and I cannot understand it. Its almost like they get a high off it, like it makes them feel good or something.

I've never seen people before who go out of their way obsessing over the cancellation of a children's cartoon show, as if the show is going to magically fade away when it ends. Whereas like all canceled shows, people will continue to talk about it years after it ends and all the young kids who grew up with it will have nostalgia for it.

As long as the show ends on a good note, I'll be okay with it.

Better to end it now then drag it on and watch the quality drop.

People just don't know they want. By the end of Season 5 the show will only have 124 total episodes. Even if you were to count Half-shell heroes that only adds another 2-4 episodes depending if the Christmas one comes out.

If the Nick cartoon is the shortest lived TMNT cartoon in history and can't even crack 150 episodes, then that spells doom for the future of the TMNT franchise.

We'll never get another long lasting show again. And you're all to blame.

Yes, I have accepted it. I originally thought it was gonna end at the end of season 4 but I was caught off guard when they announced season 5. Im perfectly content with the show ending, 124 is not a small number of episodes to be fair, though I think it wouldve been neat if Nick extended it by 6 episode to make it a 130 episode show with five 26 episode seasons.

Please don't tell me this will be your new thing to spam in every thread until the next cartoon comes out.

How the f*ck are we to blame?

Cubed made it a tag, by Cudley! :tlol:

You so sure it was cubed? :lol: ;)

Well, no. But it's even funnier if it was him!

Nah, I didn't make that tag. In fact I never make tags in threads. Its probably tothenines.

Totally wasn't me or anything

I already know you made tags in countless threads.

Maybe once it ends its run it will immediately do a cheap slapdash traditional style 2D animation. Kinda like Half shell heroes but more like if the artist got his hand caught in a car door a while back. Cybercubed may cry himself to sleep after each episode for the first season or so but after that he'll wonder how he ever lived without it.

I'd like it to keep going as long as possible but I feel 5's a good run.

I just hope for cryin' out loud they finally dump Playmates for toys for the next series.

I'm pretty sure Playmates has some sort of contact when Mirage sold the rights to Nick, otherwise Nick probably would have dumped them.

why not? Disney did it. canceled Avengers: Mightiest Heroes and replaced it with the inferior Avengers Assemble.

i don't know why you are so obsessed with total number of episodes. as though that is the cornerstone of a great series. it isn't. Nick has the rights to TMNT. if IF the current TMNT series ends after five seasons do you think they'd just let a profitable property sit untouched?

I'm sorry, who's prematurely making statements here? I'm not obsessed with this show being cancelled, I have just noticed signs that typically imply cancellation. I'm not saying it will end with the conclusion of season 5, just that it's most likely not going to continue after season 5. You're the one who keeps on blindly proclaiming this show will have 7 seasons for no real reason despite the fact that we would have known about season 6 several months ago if that was the case. And bring up the merch sales, fine but we need to know for sure if the merch is selling well, otherwise you're just full of hot air. If anything the opposite is true, from what I can see the here the stores are struggling to get rid of TMNT merch.

It seems more likely to me that we'll get a reboot after season 5 rather than a continuation.

Wasn't there word about a spin-off of some sort?

I think that was just the Half-Shell Heroes special.

Well there is/was The April O'neil files, which I guess never took off...